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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 9:46:54 PM

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For argument's sake, if Hillary were to primary Obama, I'd be torn. I backed Obama in the PA primary simply because I have a strong personal dislike toward the Clintons. However, I would have voted for her in the general had she won the nomination.

If Hillary were to run in '12, I'd be torn because I am horribly disappointed in Obama. He is grabbing his ankles on too many issues. But with Hillary we would have gotten similar neo-liberal views. Not to mention a return to the made-up scandals that plagued Bill's administration; I really could not care that he got a blow job in the Oval Office, he wasn't the first president to have questionable morals.

If Obama is primaried at all, it will mean some hard thinking on my part as to who to vote for in April '12. If the general were to be held tomorrow, I'd have to vote a straight Democratic ticket, which is something I seldom do. I do like Huntsman, but the majority of Republican voters have gone so far to the right he'll never get the nomination. I'm praying for a viable third party candidate actually.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 10:11:51 PM

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I really could not care that he got a blow job in the Oval Office, he wasn't the first president to have questionable morals.

But he was one of the few to lie in a Congressional hearing and obstruct justice.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 10:32:21 PM

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I still say Hillary would be Nixon with a vagina. It might be an improvement though.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 10:48:29 PM

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I still say Hillary would be Nixon with a vagina. It might be an improvement though.

Over Nixon or Obama? :)

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 10:50:32 PM

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I still say Hillary would be Nixon with a vagina. It might be an improvement though.

Over Nixon or Obama? :)

Hillary's vagina would be an improvement over Nixon's vagina.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 11:04:48 PM

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I still say Hillary would be Nixon with a vagina. It might be an improvement though.

Over Nixon or Obama? :)

Hillary's vagina would be an improvement over Nixon's vagina.

Firm

Youd need to floss after either one, Im sure.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 11:24:27 PM

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Hell, I'd vote for Rulemylife or Slvmike if they were running against Oblunder!
No doubt they could do a better job.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/29/2011 11:26:22 PM

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Hell, I'd vote for Rulemylife or Slvmike if they were running against Oblunder!
No doubt they could do a better job.

Hmmmm..tough choice. Nope. Im going with Obama.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/30/2011 9:23:22 AM

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I dont see Hillary goin up against Obama, thats asking for trouble. Just see what the teaparty has done to the repubs.
Shes too smart to do that
Maybe 2016, Id vote for her, but then I would never vote repub anyway, so ...plus the whole non american thing im just adding my two cents:) cos I can

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/30/2011 1:03:19 PM

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I still say Hillary would be Nixon with a vagina. It might be an improvement though.

TH, are you saying that with respect to foreign policy, domestic policy, or well, not-quite-ethical practices? Frankly, I have not at all been impressed by Hilary's handling of foreign policy; take, for instance, the US response to the "Arab Spring" under her purview. It was abysmal -- State went around like a rudderless ship, looked sluggish, made silly comments and then had to backpedal, and came across as supporting dictatorial allies until the last possible moment.

With all due respect, when it comes to foreign policy, Nixon could wipe the floor with Hilary. And he wasn't much of a slouch regarding domestic policy either.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/30/2011 1:12:29 PM

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The madness and paranoia about "enemies," is the biggest player in the analogy, Raw.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/30/2011 5:21:37 PM

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The madness and paranoia about "enemies," is the biggest player in the analogy, Raw.

Now, that I am in full agreement with, TH. I presume you've also read Heilemann and Halperin's Game Change.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/30/2011 11:43:21 PM

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The madness and paranoia about "enemies," is the biggest player in the analogy, Raw.

Now, that I am in full agreement with, TH. I presume you've also read Heilemann and Halperin's Game Change.

I've read it. It was quite an eye-opener. I think it's horrifying anyone would even think Palin could be a viable candidate!

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 8:51:38 AM

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The madness and paranoia about "enemies," is the biggest player in the analogy, Raw.

Now, that I am in full agreement with, TH. I presume you've also read Heilemann and Halperin's Game Change.

I've read it. It was quite an eye-opener. I think it's horrifying anyone would even think Palin could be a viable candidate!

But... what if you had to choose between Palin and Michele Bachmann?

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 8:57:48 AM

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If she ran against Obama in the Democratic primaries, would you support her?

Sure.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 10:28:37 AM

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The madness and paranoia about "enemies," is the biggest player in the analogy, Raw.

Do you think she has had the opportunity to have changed her ideas about this much since she invented the "massive right-wing conspiracy"?

Also, has the actuality of how Obama governs so divisively, treating the people who oppose him as if they were part of an evil, sub-human conspiracy not worse than anything that Hillary would likely do?

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 11:40:53 AM

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Do you think she has had the opportunity to have changed her ideas about this much since she invented the "massive right-wing conspiracy"?

Also, has the actuality of how Obama governs so divisively, treating the people who oppose him as if they were part of an evil, sub-human conspiracy not worse than anything that Hillary would likely do?

I don't think she would be as deliberately divisive as what we are getting from this administration, Firm, but I think she would be much more effective at handling the "enemies."

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 12:00:53 PM

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Do you think she has had the opportunity to have changed her ideas about this much since she invented the "massive right-wing conspiracy"?

Also, has the actuality of how Obama governs so divisively, treating the people who oppose him as if they were part of an evil, sub-human conspiracy not worse than anything that Hillary would likely do?

I don't think she would be as deliberately divisive as what we are getting from this administration, Firm, but I think she would be much more effective at handling the "enemies."

Could be, TH.

However, I tend to wish to believe that several years of eating shit under Obama may have given her an insight into the entire situation that she may not have had before.

Instilling a little bit more humility than she had, before.

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 12:05:22 PM

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Do you think she has had the opportunity to have changed her ideas about this much since she invented the "massive right-wing conspiracy"?

Also, has the actuality of how Obama governs so divisively, treating the people who oppose him as if they were part of an evil, sub-human conspiracy not worse than anything that Hillary would likely do?

I don't think she would be as deliberately divisive as what we are getting from this administration, Firm, but I think she would be much more effective at handling the "enemies."

Could be, TH.

However, I tend to wish to believe that several years of eating shit under Obama may have given her an insight into the entire situation that she may not have had before.

Instilling a little bit more humility than she had, before.

Firm

Meh, the libs would play the gender card instead of the race card. 6 of one...

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RE: Hillary Clinton - Could She? - 7/31/2011 12:14:10 PM

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Meh, the libs would play the gender card instead of the race card. 6 of one...

And wouldn't that be a wild 180 to watch, after their resetting of the bar for Palin and Bachmann.

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