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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 3:01:38 PM   
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"Make sure to force him to sign a pledge to reduce his weight before calling the ambulance."


THAT,is fucking brilliance!



No, thats ironic...

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3787885


Tell that so someone with no health care at all.

Some 50 million Americans, at this point and rising.

Don`t pretend that you care about that.


I am someone with no health care at all. And please don't tell me you care about me, my lack of health care or anyone else for that matter because you don't. You (and I mean you in the general sense not you specifically) walk by someone living on the street, destitute and what do you do? You, like most people, simply pretend not to see him/her and walk right on by.

You know what I find hilariously hypocritical? Most of the egaltarian minded, pro universal health care for all people...they're all for universal health care until it starts affecting their bottom line and pocket books. They start changing their tune real quickly when their wealth starts diminishing.

Take some typical leftist hollyweird celebrities like George Clooney, Rosanne Barr, Chris Rock (I'm simply using them because they have been vocal in their support of universal health care) and ask them why they haven't given all (or at least the vast majority) of their money to provide health care to the poor and under-privledged. You'll get the equivalent of crickets chirping.

Take most of these millionaire liberals: John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill/Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al and ask them if they so fervently believe in universal health care then why do they hide and shield their money from the very taxes they propose to have the rest of us pay to fund health care? Why is their money sheltered? Seems to me that if one truly believed in what one said that person would lead by example.

But no liberals are the kings/queens of do as I say not as I do.

At least republicans are mostly honest about being greedy and selfish. That certainly doesn't make it right but at least they're not complete hypocrites on the subject.


So all the effort over the last 30 months is a ruse?

Our opposition to defunding Planned Parenthood isn`t sincere?

Passing CHIP after shrub vetoed it was a shame?

Humanity isn`t as horrible as you describe.

Homeless people and the 50 million folks without healthcare(insurance) are two separate subjects.Tho no doubt most all homeless are without healthcare.And some of the folks who`ve lost their healthcare will also be homeless.

Not sure you can know what`s in my heart what`s in the average American`s.Not sure that cons are anymore honest about their selfishness than you are.

So what are you doing to address these issues or help, other than cursing the darkness?

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I liken the homeless problem to the stray our dog/abused dogs problems.

You do the best you can with what you have.There`s a river of starving,abused and neglected dogs flowing by.

Much to much for any one person of group to deal with.

Does that mean give up?

Fuck no.You do what you can.

You certainly don`t say fuck it,it`s not my problem or fuck it,it`s to big a problem.

The argument that someone isn`t sincere about helping the homeless unless they personally pick one up and bring them home is world class A #1 pure bullshit.

It`s lazy intellectually and morally lazy and dishonest.

It lets folks like you off the hook and is antithetical to getting at reducing the homeless population.




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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 3:52:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59 So all the effort over the last 30 months is a ruse?

Our opposition to defunding Planned Parenthood isn`t sincere?

Passing CHIP after shrub vetoed it was a shame?

Humanity isn`t as horrible as you describe.

Homeless people and the 50 million folks without healthcare(insurance) are two separate subjects.Tho no doubt most all homeless are without healthcare.And some of the folks who`ve lost their healthcare will also be homeless.

Not sure you can know what`s in my heart what`s in the average American`s.Not sure that cons are anymore honest about their selfishness than you are.

So what are you doing to address these issues or help, other than cursing the darkness?

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I liken the homeless problem to the stray our dog/abused dogs problems.

You do the best you can with what you have.There`s a river of starving,abused and neglected dogs flowing by.

Much to much for any one person of group to deal with.

Does that mean give up?

Fuck no.You do what you can.

You certainly don`t say fuck it,it`s not my problem or fuck it,it`s to big a problem.

The argument that someone isn`t sincere about helping the homeless unless they personally pick one up and bring them home is world class A #1 pure bullshit.

It`s lazy intellectually and morally lazy and dishonest.

It lets folks like you off the hook and is antithetical to getting at reducing the homeless population.





1. No it's not a ruse. What it is...is a concerted effort by certain elements to take away what they have worked for and earned and transfer that to those who sit around all day do and contribute nothing.

2. Planned Parenthood is irrelevant to this particular conversation.

3. Humanity is worse than I describe. We live in a world where someone would slit another's throat for a couple of bucks. Organizations like al-quida (or however it's spelled), the kkk, crips/bloods will kill anyone who they perceive as an enemy without a second thought. Recent leaders like Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro and other historical leaders like Nero, Caligulla, Ivan The Terrible, et al.

4. I'm not asking anyone to pick up a homeless person and bring him her/home. I'm simply stating that lefties who want all this socialism to "take care of others" seem to hide and shield their money.

It's okay perfectly fine in liberals minds for the government to (through confiscatory taxes and wealth redistribution from the "evil" rich) pay for their idea of a "just" society. But those same rich liberals who decry all the unjust and unfairness in this world are only too content to live in it and take full advantage of their wealth by living an extravagant lifestyle.

I see all these rich celebrities on television all the time imploring people to give money to their charity during a fund raising drive. Why doesn't George Clooney take all the money he makes from his next film and donate it all to an under-funded inner city clinic?

That's my whole point: Liberals are complete hypocrites. They want socialism and all it entails but they hide their wealth in the same tax shelters that those "evil rich" do. Fucking bastard hypocrites.

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 6:11:59 PM   
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"I see all these rich celebrities on television all the time imploring people to give money to their charity during a fund raising drive. Why doesn't George Clooney take all the money he makes from his next film and donate it all to an under-funded inner city clinic? "

Maybe you shouldn`t watch so much TV.


The world,BION,doesn`t revolve around hollywood or "celebrities".


And look into your own heart before passing judgement on others who`re trying to do something positive.


How that makes them bad-guys,you`ll need to explain.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVlHsaq5yg


How many times have you been to the Sudan,whiney?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjWO146kPc&feature=related


So until George gives them all his money,he`s not sincere?You`re so full of shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDKh9a8zgWo&feature=related


The answer to helping people is NOT giving them all your money.Saying it is or claiming you should or you`re not really trying is just plain stupid as well as not true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK_mukvvYr8&feature=related


Little advice,....less TV and reading the National Equirer and more attention to boot choices.

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 6:41:34 PM   
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Some 50 million Americans, at this point and rising.

Don`t pretend that you care about that.


50 million is a bullshit number to start with, and its those without health INSURANCE. Guess what, health insurance isnt health CARE. There is nobody who cant get needed health care, including about 15 million people who shouldnt.


Looks like you are having a few problems with facts and numbers again Willbur:

"The USA is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage" (i.e., some kind of private or public health insurance).[17] In 2004, the Institute of Medicine report observed "lack of health insurance causes roughly 18,000 unnecessary deaths every year in the United States."[17] while a 2009 Harvard study estimated that 44,800 excess deaths occurred annually due to lack of health insurance.[18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Healthcare

I wonder when was the last time you posted a fact - perhaps 1982 or thereabouts?

And when you say: "about 15 million people who shouldn't [get healthcare]" do you mean they should be just left to die if they fall ill? It sure sounds that way.









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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 10:24:25 PM   
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2. Planned Parenthood is irrelevant to this particular conversation.


Planned Parenthood gives health care to the poor who likely can not afford regular gynecological visits.

How is that irrelevant?

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 7/31/2011 10:37:28 PM   
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Show me one liberal, celebrity or political, who has donated all, or most, of their own money...

Show me one...


How about 3? Gates Buffett and Zuckerberg have pledged at least half of their wealth to charity. (At least I assume Zuckerberg is a liberal)

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/1/2011 1:45:37 AM   
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Michael Moore donates the bulk of his income as well.

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/1/2011 3:09:32 PM   
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Recent leaders like Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro and other historical leaders like Nero, Caligulla, Ivan The Terrible, et al.

So what is your problem with Nero?


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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/2/2011 4:38:28 AM   
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That whole fiddling thing, probably: you are talking to a neocon about history, after all...



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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/3/2011 3:31:58 PM   
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The answer to helping people is NOT giving them all your money.Saying it is or claiming you should or you`re not really trying is just plain stupid as well as not true.


Ah ha! The game is afoot!

So with this single truism now so eloquently stated we can expect that the liberal left will stop trying to continually raise taxes for wealth redistribution...right?

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/3/2011 3:35:29 PM   
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Recent leaders like Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro and other historical leaders like Nero, Caligulla, Ivan The Terrible, et al.

So what is your problem with Nero?



He wore a bedsheet...what a freak.

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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/3/2011 6:53:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gaybottomslave


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ORIGINAL: Owner59
The answer to helping people is NOT giving them all your money.Saying it is or claiming you should or you`re not really trying is just plain stupid as well as not true.


Ah ha! The game is afoot!

So with this single truism now so eloquently stated we can expect that the liberal left will stop trying to continually raise taxes for wealth redistribution...right?


No,just get rid of tax loop holes,special rights for a select few,and make people pay their fair share, like everyone else does.

The whiney up-trodden rich don`t need them.

But if afterward you feel millionairs should get special tax breaks/pay less,please by all means send them your own money.

Just stop asking/making the middle-class Americans to pay more.


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RE: A letter to "Dear Tea Party Abby" - 8/3/2011 10:16:54 PM   
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I see all these rich celebrities on television all the time imploring people to give money to their charity during a fund raising drive. Why doesn't George Clooney take all the money he makes from his next film and donate it all to an under-funded inner city clinic?


You seem to be fixated on GC.

George Clooney's Charity Work, Events and Causes

Charity biography

George Clooney seems to have one of the most charitable hearts in Hollywood, and, alongside his current mission to stop the human rights atrocities in the Darfur region of Sudan, he focuses much of his energy on helping those suffering from poverty.

Clooney famously founded Not On Our Watch with his Ocean’s 11 co-stars Don Cheadle, Matt Damon, and Brad Pitt, and producer Jerry Weintraub. The organization’s main goal is to stop the genocide occurring in Sudan. Clooney has visited the area personally, and spoken with victims of rape and torture. His charity has donated millions of dollars to help those suffering in the region, with much of the funding going through the United Nations World Food Programme.

The Ocean’s 13 leading man offered his company at the movie’s première and private after-party for an auction supporting Realizing the Dream. This non-profit seeks to continue the legacy and work of Dr. and Mrs. King in wiping out poverty and injustice.

Clooney has been known to give generous donations to homeless people, is a supporter of Bono’s poverty-fighting ONE Campaign, and is also on the Board of Trustees for the United Way.

George donated $25,000 to writers during the 2007 strike.

Clooney took part in the America: A Tribute to Heroes charity telethon for victims of 9/11.



Read more: http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/68-george-clooney#ixzz1U2B4ReCW

He also gave 1.5 million of his personal money to Haiti and helped raise another 59 million.

Want to try picking on someone else?

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