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FatDomDaddy -> Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 4:25:42 PM)

Reid signs off on the latest plan as the GOP looks like it will win the day and set the tone for the 2012 elections.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60304.html






willbeurdaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 4:32:49 PM)

Till there is a vote and the details known I wouldnt declare victory for either side. The general framework in the article does sound favorable, and Im watching govtrack for details.




Termyn8or -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 5:11:26 PM)

It was all a show anyway. We knew it was going to happen.

T^T




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 5:41:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Reid signs off on the latest plan as the GOP looks like it will win the day and set the tone for the 2012 elections.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60304.html




See .....we all knew this bullshit and dicking around with our economy was about elections and not America`s well being.

Thanks for the acknowledgement,fats.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 6:07:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

It was all a show anyway. We knew it was going to happen.

T^T


Sure it was. Compare the going in positions to the final result and tell me the final result was even close to being known in January.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 6:34:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Reid signs off on the latest plan as the GOP looks like it will win the day and set the tone for the 2012 elections.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60304.html




See .....we all knew this bullshit and dicking around with our economy was about elections and not America`s well being.

Thanks for the acknowledgement,fats.


On both sides 59 on both sides.

And of course it is.... you cannot govern if you cannot get elected.  Our economy and especially our tax codes need a major overhaul. Why do you fear an election with that as a core issue?




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 7:35:44 PM)

I keep forgetting that you`re one of the fairer,saner conservatives here.[:D]




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 8:12:45 PM)

What a HUGE disappointment.

Obama showed ZERO leadership in this case. Two weeks ago, he should have said to the Republicans...

"Vote for a one-line bill to raise the debt ceiling within one week, or I will instruct the US Treasury to meet our obligations any way they deem necessary in order to protect the full faith and credit of the US." "And by the way, I will be presenting my plan for deficit reduction tomorrow"


Not exactly what happened.




Sanity -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 8:19:29 PM)


On the bright side, O'Bummers golf game has got to be improving an awful lot




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 8:28:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

What a HUGE disappointment.

Obama showed ZERO leadership in this case. Two weeks ago, he should have said to the Republicans...

"Vote for a one-line bill to raise the debt ceiling within one week, or I will instruct the US Treasury to meet our obligations any way they deem necessary in order to protect the full faith and credit of the US." "And by the way, I will be presenting my plan for deficit reduction tomorrow"


Not exactly what happened.


His method of "leading" is the equivalent of his love voting "absent". If he never takes a position he can never be accused of taking the wrong position.




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 8:49:28 PM)

We can gauge how well the President did by how ornery conservatives are.

I couldn`t care less about folks who say he isn`t to the left enough or progressive enough.

He ran as a moderate and is governing like a moderate.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:13:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

We can gauge how well the President did by how ornery conservatives are.

I couldn`t care less about folks who say he isn`t to the left enough or progressive enough.

He ran as a moderate and is governing like a moderate.



Not a surprise that you cant tell the difference between "ornery" and "celebratory". Heres an aid: Ornery-You on Nov 7 2012 Celebratory-Anyone who wants this country to thrive on Nov 7 2012. If you need help with that Im sure someone at your favorite middle school can help you.




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:15:22 PM)

This and the 2012 election isn`t over yet....sparky.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:19:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

This and the 2012 election isn`t over yet....sparky.


It is somewhat ironic that the only thing that can save Obama in 2012 is the Tea Party forcing economic policy on him that will actually work. Take a look at an electoral map after redistribution of delegates and redistricting. The election is likely to depend on 5 states...and if the GOP wins any one of them, done deal.




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:20:32 PM)

lol




domiguy -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:22:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

This and the 2012 election isn`t over yet....sparky.


It is somewhat ironic that the only thing that can save Obama in 2012 is the Tea Party forcing economic policy on him that will actually work. Take a look at an electoral map after redistribution of delegates and redistricting. The election is likely to depend on 5 states...and if the GOP wins any one of them, done deal.


Obama is a shoe in for a second term. Only fat over the hill white folk put any relevance on that sack of shit group of ninkompoops.




TheHeretic -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:44:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Obama is a shoe in for a second term.



I wouldn't go anywhere near that far, DG.  The stage is set for one hell of a dirty, polarizing fight.  Look at the rhetoric that came into play through this performance.  The Dems are only going to ramp it up further for the election.  Next November will be decided by the independents, and the dumbasses who vote for the tall one.  If the economy starts improving, he has a good shot, if not, he can go scoop up the Bo droppings on the Rezco Lawn.

As I'm reading what I'm seeing of the reports, it looks like Obama traded away his tax increases, in exchange for getting the debt limit hike to carry past the election.





Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 9:49:59 PM)

We heard your learned analysis before......several times now.....

You`re hoping the economy doesn`t do well so that cons might win......



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TheHeretic -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 10:00:56 PM)

Speaking of the Dems having no place to go but deeper into the gutter...




Owner59 -> RE: Looks Like a Done Deal on Debt Ceiling (7/31/2011 10:21:05 PM)

One sometimes has to get into the gutter when they`re fighting someone from the sewer.




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