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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 6:50:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Any chance you could continue this policy ? Just asking,trying real hard not to be snarky.....lol


Bite me, Round Boy.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

And that wandering away is your best feature.

Wait.......was that snarky?

My bad.

(this was just a joke by the way, before you get all upset)


You've seen my nude pictures, haven't you? You really did not need to share with everyone that my "Forum Hottie" status was something I made up.


Even he should totally respect a realistic self-assessment, FH. ;)




Owner59 -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:05:59 PM)

What do you call it when someone extorts what they want by treatening us with financial ruin?


I know the words I`d use.


Biden`s office said he didn`t say it.


Till we have video of him saying that,it`s "alledged"....sorry whiners....[:(]


Here`s a novel tact just in case the bed-wetters are feeling a rash,we`ll just say the VP was joking..........[:D]


See?


Aww-gone.[:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:06:10 PM)

"Bite me ,Round Boy.".... lol,who writes your material ?




ladyneedshelp -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:15:24 PM)

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?




slvemike4u -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:17:11 PM)

Would you mind if this particular moon bat told you to kiss his ass?
Just asking......u know what I mean ?




Lucylastic -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:22:34 PM)

oooooooooooh lookie, we are back to blaming BB(before Bush) this is where reality suddenly loses all shape and sense.
ERRRM your government just spent three weeks on trying to come up with an agreeement so that YOU wouldnt be in greeces position, defaulting on debt, why are you crowing???
and you sure didnt get to that sad pathetic position in two years , or without help from Brother Bush. and yet its THIS government in two years has sunk you?"
be realistic woman




slvemike4u -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:28:31 PM)

Reality...a "bridge too far" for some.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:31:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?


Then you are a third world country, which is exactly the path we've been on. I hold out some hope that the Thanksgiving dinner will NOT be a turkey, but there are no guarantees. Paul Ryan had better be on the super-committee or the end result will the the downgrading of US debt that everyone has been Chicken Littling about.




slvemike4u -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:39:14 PM)

Chicken littling about.....no,what was being done was that assailed on the right were holding our credit rating hostage to ideological desires.Unfortunately Obamaand the Dems caved to it....whatever happened to not negotiating with terrorists ?




Owner59 -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 7:49:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?


When saint ron took office the debt was a trillion.

He left us in the hole for two and a half trillion.Under Clinton that rate flattened if only slightly.But he did put us on the right track and gave the shrub a good economy and a surplus.

Under shub,it was back to drunk`n sailor mode,no bid contracts and no oversight.A tilllion of our taxes blown on Iraq?!?!!

shrub added 4 tillion more to the books.As well as putting us in economic free-fall.

That`s why normal folks LOL when math/history callanged cons are blaming today`s mess on President Obama.

Remember the old tone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjiE-hY9hU

That guy is to blame the most for allowing banks/wallstreet to gamble with our savings,which lead to the '08' crash.

He would also have been the secretary of the treasury, had McPalin won.




ladyneedshelp -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 8:02:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?


Then you are a third world country, which is exactly the path we've been on. I hold out some hope that the Thanksgiving dinner will NOT be a turkey, but there are no guarantees. Paul Ryan had better be on the super-committee or the end result will the the downgrading of US debt that everyone has been Chicken Littling about.


Without a doubt....the groups that rate us have been saying all along that it was not the debt ciling it was the amount of spending.....and so far our govt. Has promised to cut (yeah right, like the s.s. money would go in a lock box) a trilllion or two out of ten or twelve they were hopeing to spend... And its all Brother Bush's fault! It's always been done this way....therefore its right! wait......no that can't be right.....anyhow.... A hundred yrs. from now the history boooks will say it was all Bush's fault that Obama quadrupled the debt(or more) and made us a third world country. Maybe they will point to the writings of O's closest adviors like the science czar who promotes the de-industeralizing of America, and how they succeded.....and show how Bush caused Obama to appoint him. Cos.....its all Bush's fault!




Aylee -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 8:19:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

"Bite me ,Round Boy.".... lol,who writes your material ?


Ringo.


Mike, thou art smelly. Thy breath stinks of the rotten ejacula of horses, which, sooth, thou dost love as thy morning drink. Thy body reeks with the stench of fear, and the manure of asparagus-eating goats is better than the smell from thy mustache. slvemike4u, thou art a stinker.

Mike, thou art ugly. Thy friends doth not run forward to the fight, but away from thy countenance. Sooth, in the history of the ill-favored, thy name is held in high esteem. Thy whore mother screamed at first sight of thee as the brought you forth in horror. The ill-fortuned persons that were forced to care for thee had to put a pork chop around thy neck to get the dog to play with thee. Further, sooth, when it did, it mistook thy ass for thy face and preferred it to lick. slvemike4u, thou art ugly.

Mike, thou art stupid. Thrice hast thou attacked us and thrice have we thrown thee back, though we be but, forsooth, a fraction of thy number. Thou art unlettered and hath never read of the term 'defeat in detail,' for, assuredly, but those few letters would require all day and the use of both of your pustulent forefingers. But the veriest simpleton canst understand that thine tactics are those of a school-yard bully held back until his tutors at last release him as a man full grown yet unable to manage fingerpainting. The very fact that thou canst breathe must be by the arts of some homunculi or hob, smarter than thou, who doth sit upon thy shoulder and whisper in thy ear, 'breathe in, breathe out' else surely thou wouldst cease in this vital activity for lack of thought. Canst thou walk and chew bubble gum at the same time it is asked and I cry 'Nay' for I have found you, face down, the bubble gum before you upon the ground as proof. slvemike4u, thou art stupid.


Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!






Owner59 -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 9:00:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?


Then you are a third world country, which is exactly the path we've been on. I hold out some hope that the Thanksgiving dinner will NOT be a turkey, but there are no guarantees. Paul Ryan had better be on the super-committee or the end result will the the downgrading of US debt that everyone has been Chicken Littling about.


Without a doubt....the groups that rate us have been saying all along that it was not the debt ciling it was the amount of spending.....and so far our govt. Has promised to cut (yeah right, like the s.s. money would go in a lock box) a trilllion or two out of ten or twelve they were hopeing to spend... And its all Brother Bush's fault! It's always been done this way....therefore its right! wait......no that can't be right.....anyhow.... A hundred yrs. from now the history boooks will say it was all Bush's fault that Obama quadrupled the debt(or more) and made us a third world country. Maybe they will point to the writings of O's closest adviors like the science czar who promotes the de-industeralizing of America, and how they succeded.....and show how Bush caused Obama to appoint him. Cos.....its all Bush's fault!

Dear ladyneedsremedialhelp....

"the groups that rate us have been saying all along that it was not the debt ciling it was the amount of spending"

Could you show us which rating companies said that and where,ie. a link?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 9:10:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: ladyneedshelp

Despite what so many moonbats parrot this 'mess' did not start with Bush....it has been growing for many many years.....every eight year adminstration since carter has added aproxmentely 1/2 trillion dollars to the amount already being spent. And now this admin. Has TRIPPLED that amount in less than 3 years!! Our gov. has instuted their own automatic payraises. They set up automatic increases for each and every agency. And they want to spend more on top lot all the automatic increases! Top that off with the gov. promising people double the going private pay with benifits.....and they want to add more people to the payroll......

Eventually a country ends up like Greece...borrowing so much they cannot pay the intrest.......

Then what?


Then you are a third world country, which is exactly the path we've been on. I hold out some hope that the Thanksgiving dinner will NOT be a turkey, but there are no guarantees. Paul Ryan had better be on the super-committee or the end result will the the downgrading of US debt that everyone has been Chicken Littling about.


Without a doubt....the groups that rate us have been saying all along that it was not the debt ciling it was the amount of spending.....and so far our govt. Has promised to cut (yeah right, like the s.s. money would go in a lock box) a trilllion or two out of ten or twelve they were hopeing to spend... And its all Brother Bush's fault! It's always been done this way....therefore its right! wait......no that can't be right.....anyhow.... A hundred yrs. from now the history boooks will say it was all Bush's fault that Obama quadrupled the debt(or more) and made us a third world country. Maybe they will point to the writings of O's closest adviors like the science czar who promotes the de-industeralizing of America, and how they succeded.....and show how Bush caused Obama to appoint him. Cos.....its all Bush's fault!

Dear ladyneedsremedialhelp....

"the groups that rate us have been saying all along that it was not the debt ciling it was the amount of spending"

Could you show us which rating companies said that and where,ie. a link?


You mean like Moodys?

Moody’s announcement on Tuesday that it would retain its AAA rating of U.S. government sovereign debt as a result of the debt-limit agreement came with a warning: The government must rein in spending or risk a downgrade anyway
Or S&P (in April)


"That was the message delivered yesterday by Standard & Poor’s (S&P) credit rating firm, which lowered its outlook on the U.S. credit rating. Though the S&P kept the rating at AAA, it expressed a negative outlook for the future, saying, “We believe there is a material risk that U.S. policy makers might not reach an agreement on how to address medium- and long-term budgetary challenges by 2013.”


Barclays Bank issued its own analysis of S&P’s announcement, as James Pethokoukis writes. A key point:

This announcement was not about the debt ceiling; in fact, the debt ceiling is not even mentioned in the S&P release… [E]ven if the debt ceiling debate were to be resolved in the near term, it would not be enough to restore the outlook to stable.
"




If you were capable of reading the financial pages you would know that Treasuries continued to sell at stable or even higher prices. There was no concern about raising the debt ceiling because its an arbitrary number. The debt ceiling had to be raised because of SPENDING that was committed to. Ratings agencies are concerned about how much of GDP goes to principal and interest payments and whether there is enough revenue to support those levels. That is a SPENDING issue, not a debt ceiling issue.




Owner59 -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 9:15:32 PM)

http://www.economy.com/dismal/article_free.asp?cid=197630

"The Obama administration has shown significant spending restraint in its recent budget, but House Republicans want deeper cuts."

done.....


While cuts and tax increases are necessary to address the nation’s long-term fiscal problems, cutting too deeply before the economy is in full expansion would add unnecessary risk.

over-done....


The House Republicans’ proposal would reduce 2011 real GDP growth by 0.5% and 2012 growth by 0.2 percentage points This would mean some 400,000 fewer jobs created by the end of 2011 and 700,000 fewer jobs by the end of 2012.

over and done.

"A government shutdown lasting longer than a couple of weeks would do much more damage to the economy"

I don`t see anywhere where S&P or Moodys said that a default was NOT a/the problem.

Telling half the truth is a form of lying.




TheHeretic -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 10:34:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Naive and clueless Rich, would that be like GWB who didnt even know the difference between Sunni and Shia prior to the Iraq invasion ? 



Not at all, Polite.  Bush II had something that he really wanted to do, so he cranked up the message machine, got the people on board, put it through Congress, and fucked up something that would have been better left alone to begin with.  Completely different brand of naive and clueless.




Owner59 -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/3/2011 11:05:50 PM)

Cranked up the fraud machine, just months after we suffered the 9/11 attacks,exploiting our fear and uncertainty,tricked the people on board as well as congress, way before you neo-cons completely fucked it up beyond recognition.

It would take someone profoundly naive and clueless not only to create these tragedies but also to keep repeating them over and over for years.And,it would take a hoard of clueless and naive bush supporters to enable that retard.


Sorry about "the tone".




Sanity -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/4/2011 4:00:46 AM)


That opinion article is pure bs

Take off those rose colored glasses and have a look at the debt vs. the economic news on any given day

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

http://finance.yahoo.com/

If more government spending were really good for the economy we would be in economic heaven right now, yet we are in economic hell

Thats reality, everything else is pure spin

And news flash, take a good hard look at Europes situation. Were not alone in learning this very simple lesson

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

http://www.economy.com/dismal/article_free.asp?cid=197630

"The Obama administration has shown significant spending restraint in its recent budget, but House Republicans want deeper cuts."

done.....


While cuts and tax increases are necessary to address the nation’s long-term fiscal problems, cutting too deeply before the economy is in full expansion would add unnecessary risk.

over-done....


The House Republicans’ proposal would reduce 2011 real GDP growth by 0.5% and 2012 growth by 0.2 percentage points This would mean some 400,000 fewer jobs created by the end of 2011 and 700,000 fewer jobs by the end of 2012.

over and done.

"A government shutdown lasting longer than a couple of weeks would do much more damage to the economy"

I don`t see anywhere where S&P or Moodys said that a default was NOT a/the problem.

Telling half the truth is a form of lying.





Sanity -> RE: Dontcha Love That "New Tone" (8/4/2011 4:04:11 AM)


How are you proposing that the "neo-cons completely fucked it up"

Not enough deficit spending to suit you?

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Cranked up the fraud machine, just months after we suffered the 9/11 attacks,exploiting our fear and uncertainty,tricked the people on board as well as congress, way before you neo-cons completely fucked it up beyond recognition.

It would take someone profoundly naive and clueless not only to create these tragedies but also to keep repeating them over and over for years.And,it would take a hoard of clueless and naive bush supporters to enable that retard.


Sorry about "the tone".




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