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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 10:13:52 AM

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Because to characterise yourself as a "real player" and to suggest that some of the fantastically EXPERIENCED and KNOWLEDGEABLE people who have responded to you are some how "less real" is fucking absurd.

Here's the funny thing. One of the most "real" answers that a person can give on a question like this is to say that they aren't experienced in the play, couldn't do it safely, or were not willing to assume the risks. Even the YKINMK replies are sufficient. Am I going to delve into somebody's psyche should they come to the boards and say that they have a kink to have a concrete block dropped onto their head from a person standing several feet about them? Nope. If somebody wants to destroy themselves in the name of kink, that's there own decision. As a top do I want anything to do with it? Not particularly.

As a RACK (risk aware consensual kink) player, if I'm not knowledgeable about the dangers of the play or not willing to accept the risks associated with it, as a competent top, the best thing that I can do is tell someone that I don't have the education or competency on the matter. Could I do it if I didn't give a damn? Sure. However, to Me, if the benefits don't outweigh the risks, it just plain isn't worth My time.

I have no doubt that the OP could self inflict this kind of play. A few folks have even handed him the information on the best tool with which to do it. Probably the same as I would have thought would be the best choice if I was foolish enough to be the top in the scenario, though I would most likely mind fuck the guy instead and done a switch of implements. Otherwise, he's got to find somebody who either doesn't care about the damage they might do, risk the jail time, or somebody dumb enough to fall for the 'you're not real if you won't do it' blustering that he's trying to pull here.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 1:47:56 PM

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Some here might portray themselves as real players, oh, so into the scene, so knowledgable about the whole life style.....well guess what, a real player just walked into your midst and asked how it might be to put a needle into an area that is for the most part thought of as off limits...the stomach, the part that most ardent scene players want to say is off limits...

BellyBoy ...over and out.

OOhh bad choice of wording there boy.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 1:49:56 PM

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Some here might portray themselves as real players, oh, so into the scene, so knowledgable about the whole life style.....well guess what, a real player just walked into your midst and asked how it might be to put a needle into an area that is for the most part thought of as off limits...the stomach, the part that most ardent scene players want to say is off limits...

BellyBoy ...over and out.

OOhh bad choice of wording there boy.

I almost hope he finds someone stupid enough to do that to him without any precautions. Then, we won't have to listen to him any more.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 2:16:31 PM

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Some here might portray themselves as real players, oh, so into the scene, so knowledgable about the whole life style.....well guess what, a real player just walked into your midst and asked how it might be to put a needle into an area that is for the most part thought of as off limits...the stomach, the part that most ardent scene players want to say is off limits...

BellyBoy ...over and out.

OOhh bad choice of wording there boy.

I almost hope he finds someone stupid enough to do that to him without any precautions. Then, we won't have to listen to him any more.

Nope, I hope he doesn't drag anybody else into this mess, if he's screwed up enough to want that, he should do it on his own, dunno what the worst case scenario might be, possibly him dying slowly and painfully for perforated bowels or internal organs or ending up in the funny farm for doing that to himself...

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 2:18:10 PM

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Some here might portray themselves as real players, oh, so into the scene, so knowledgable about the whole life style.....well guess what, a real player just walked into your midst and asked how it might be to put a needle into an area that is for the most part thought of as off limits...the stomach, the part that most ardent scene players want to say is off limits...

Well thank you for enlightening the rest of us on your real playerness. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to also know that a 2.5 inch needle can puncture deep enough to breach the stomach walls and cause all sorts of health issues. I am sure many here who are more proficient at needle play will attest that not only do we have to be aware of the risks involved for our bottoms but we also are aware of our own limits to what we will and will not do according to our comfort level.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 2:47:08 PM

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has anyone suggested he go tell the er that he has been bitten by a rabid racoon??

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 2:54:13 PM

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has anyone suggested he go tell the er that he has been bitten by a rabid racoon??

Ok, this made me cringe! I mean, cringe all the way down to my very DNA!

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 10:14:35 PM

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Last night I'm afraid some of my statements were uneducated and arrogant to say the least.

In just a few nights I've learned I don't know much and it was wrong of me to judge some of you in the way that I did.

What I should have done was join the forum, then read,read,read and learn before piping off.

That's what I will be doing here for the time being. Reading and learning. Not piping off anymore.

For the record, the fetish I asked about on this forum, is intimately for me about the pain and humiliation of feeling something sharp actually go into my stomach...it's about feeling the sharp pain it would cause.

I'm not suicidal, not doing it alone and probably will never do such a thing. But the thoughts have been with me for a very long time.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 11:08:59 PM

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Hi Bellyboy,

S'all good. Not a lot of people will take that kind of ribbing and not stomp off in a huff. That you can come back and be gracious, shows you in a good light. There are bound to be ways to indulge your fetish safely. I've certainly stuck enough diabetic needles into the fatty tissue of enough bellies to know you CAN do it without harming someone. If you are hot for the pricking sensation, and the knowledge that you are being penetrated in that way, maybe a diabetic needle could do it for you.

Anyway, kudos on being decent and coming back with a good attitude about things. Oh,and welcome to CM!

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/4/2011 11:11:09 PM

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Well there is nothing wrong with fetishes or fantasies. I have a friend who likes to jump out of air planes with a nylon bag attached to rope (parachute) He says for him it is the rush in knowing every time might be the last. (chute doesn’t open) But his real fantasy is jumping without a chute at all. Does he know if he does it he will splat dead on the ground? (well duh) Will he ever do it? (nope) But it doesn’t keep him from thinking about it. (he thinks about it all the time)

So what can one do with a fantasy like this? Look for an alternative that will allow you to come as close as possible without killing yourself or breaking every bone in your body. For him it was a small plane, a big air bag and oh yeah NO chute.

Any reasonably sane human being is not going to go after a fetish or fantasy knowing it is going to end their life or cause horrendous damage to themselves. But it doesn’t keep us from having them.

I couldn't swear to it but I think youi are reasonably sane.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/5/2011 7:23:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bellyboy

Last night I'm afraid some of my statements were uneducated and arrogant to say the least.

In just a few nights I've learned I don't know much and it was wrong of me to judge some of you in the way that I did.

What I should have done was join the forum, then read,read,read and learn before piping off.

That's what I will be doing here for the time being. Reading and learning. Not piping off anymore.

For the record, the fetish I asked about on this forum, is intimately for me about the pain and humiliation of feeling something sharp actually go into my stomach...it's about feeling the sharp pain it would cause.

I'm not suicidal, not doing it alone and probably will never do such a thing. But the thoughts have been with me for a very long time.

Bellyboy

HERE HERE. Sanity (and not the crazy person down in P & R) has taken hold. May its reign be long.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/5/2011 11:48:35 AM

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Bellyboy-the sensation of what you describe can be approximated with the proper use of electro. Since the application is below the waist, it would be considered quite safe; you would likely cry uncle before any real damage could be done. Electro can be programmed to feel like just about anything...a searing jolt (such as a needle penetrating flesh), a hard thump (such as being punched) and myriad other sensations. If correctly applied, there would be no internal damage and no risk of infection. Applying repeated 'punch' sensations might make your stomach muscles sore for a while since it would fatigue them, but the intensity of that can be adjusted to prevent damage. A skilled top...a blindfold so you can't see what actually is being used on you...better have your safeword ready

Actually, electro is something you could do on yourself. With the proper equipment, you can even have someone 'drive' you remotely via your computer. See here for more information.

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RE: NEEDLE PLAY IN THE STOMACH... - 8/5/2011 10:46:28 PM

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Thanks MistressDarkArt,

Very interesting.....I'll have to look this over some more because electro has previously intrigued me....but to the nipples....hadn't thought of it in the way you are suggesting.

Thanks again.