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cloudboy -> The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 8:53:22 AM)

IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING. When a sub knows that you are fair and understanding, he respects and trusts your authority that much more.

This is my two cent contribution to the CMMB.

Footnote: Fairness & Understanding trump all other qualities in sustaining a LTR.***

***Conclusion gathered from the very, very scientific studies I've conducted AROUND WOLRD using the latest, most-up-to-date equipment, testing methods, and super computers ever utilized in field research.


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Results may very depending on a subject's IQ, body type, genetic encoding, drug and alcohol use, education, income level, and early childhood development rearing.



thetammyjo -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 9:10:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING. When a sub knows that you are fair and understanding, he respects and trusts your authority that much more.

This is my two cent contribution to the CMMB.

Footnote: Fairness & Understanding trump all other qualities in sustaining a LTR.***

***Conclusion gathered from the very, very scientific studies I've conducted AROUND WOLRD using the latest, most-up-to-date equipment, testing methods, and super computers ever utilized in field research.


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Results may very depending on a subject's IQ, body type, genetic encoding, drug and alcohol use, education, income level, and early childhood development rearing.


I think these qualities could apply to male dominants, to teachers, to work authorities, to parents, to lots of folks with authority over other.



amayos -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 9:35:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING. When a sub knows that you are fair and understanding, he respects and trusts your authority that much more.

This is my two cent contribution to the CMMB.

Footnote: Fairness & Understanding trump all other qualities in sustaining a LTR.***

***Conclusion gathered from the very, very scientific studies I've conducted AROUND WOLRD using the latest, most-up-to-date equipment, testing methods, and super computers ever utilized in field research.


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Results may very depending on a subject's IQ, body type, genetic encoding, drug and alcohol use, education, income level, and early childhood development rearing.



Can I travel around WOLRDs too? That sounds like it would be fun.

As for the most important qualities in a dominant female (in my neck of the forest): Superiority, Imagination, Darkness, Beauty and Will. Oh dear, that's five, actually. I suppose one could throw in a dash of mercy when it's truly deserved, too.




scratchingpost -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 11:59:04 AM)

I agree any authority figure needs to have those qualities because they establish trust and build relationships.



composer83 -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 12:01:37 PM)

what about INTELLIGENCE?
its just me but i would have an extremely difficult time submitting to someone that i could talk circles around in some sort of debate....plust its just unattractive.....but, thats just me....



BitaTruble -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 12:08:29 PM)

If I wanted 'fair' I'd have stayed in grade school. I hate the term 'firm but fair' when I see it in profiles. Sounds wishy-washy at best and not a quality I'd look for in a dominant partner. I mean, if you think about it, who determines fair anyway? The dominant, right? Seems to me the very idea excludes its usage and if the submissive determined what was fair, what's the point in having a dominant in the first place?

Celeste



Sunshine119 -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 12:17:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING. When a sub knows that you are fair and understanding, he respects and trusts your authority that much more.



Heck.....I think most submissives are firm, fair and understanding.  How about strength?  I don't mean the physical kind here but, for me, I need to be able to feel his strength from across the room.  Now, to ask me what comprises this "strength" would be very difficult.  Oh well.......



Proprietrix -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 12:30:50 PM)

I'd have to throw in honesty and integrity.
I'm with Celeste on the "fair" thing. Fairness falls pretty low on the totem pole in my M/s relationships.



composer83 -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 1:22:11 PM)

ill second the STRENGTH motion.....
but would like to add strength is an absolutely necessary trait in a sub......especially a sub to a sadistic Mistress or Master.....<chuckles>



LadyHugs -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 1:24:50 PM)

Dear cloudboy, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I agree to the three virtues of Firmness, Fairness and Understanding. 
 
But, I would also add to the virtues of "Spirit of Good Intent."  The spirit of being on the side of good, although human and make mistakes and have accidents; the intent to be a good person as well as a good dominant is a good quality to which I strive to keep.
 
Another fine virtue is Compassion.  This leads to being understanding and support, the ability to listen and advise, to take the time to savor the situation rather than hasty decisions, the power to forgive.
 
Another fine virtue is Courage.  This leads to being firm in convictions, stand up and be firm, to know how to apologize when we do a wrong against our slave/submissive and or others.  To know we are human and have flaws and admit them, no matter how embarrassing it may be.
 
Another fine virtue is Judicious.  This allows an ability to weigh the evidence, facts, circumstances and give proper discipline when it is justified and not an emotional response.  This allows someone to be fair.
 
Another fine virtue is Honor.  Honor means to me, to respect others as I wish to be respected.  In respecting or honoring my sense of duties, responsibilities to my standards, methods and way of life.  By respecting myself, I also respect others.  Although I give respect to others, regardless--  I do not expect respect in return.  If it is given I appreciate it dearly and cherish it.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



dogobedience -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 1:30:20 PM)

This applies to ever body top/bottom etc.
1) honesty
2) HONESTY
3) REAL SKILLS and the ability to seek out continued education to better their art, be you a top or bottom. 



ShiftedJewel -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 1:33:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING. When a sub knows that you are fair and understanding, he respects and trusts your authority that much more.

This is my two cent contribution to the CMMB.

Footnote: Fairness & Understanding trump all other qualities in sustaining a LTR.***

***Conclusion gathered from the very, very scientific studies I've conducted AROUND WOLRD using the latest, most-up-to-date equipment, testing methods, and super computers ever utilized in field research.


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Results may very depending on a subject's IQ, body type, genetic encoding, drug and alcohol use, education, income level, and early childhood development rearing.


I would have to say honesty, integrity and intelligence.... as well as inner strength.
 
Jewel



cloudboy -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 2:10:02 PM)

Reading these rude, wrong, and misguided responses makes me think that my thorough, WORLD-WIDE research merely unearthed a yawning, tired, overused truism. But, I still stand firm behind the findings of my super computers, state of the art tests, and field research.

Of course, yes, there are OTHER QUALITIES. I suppose there is some minimal value in pointing them out like Amayos and others have, but its MORE important that you know what is MOST IMPORTANT --- objectively speaking --- which is as I have spoken and pronounced!!!

Now as for you Celeste and your scheming, smoking cohort Proprietrix, you two the female yin & yang of D/S --- I'm disappointed to hear your ungracious dissents, and yes I can see the subtext in your responses to me, "He is not only dull himself; he is the cause of dullness in others."

But I am undeterred.

A DOM without fairness is like.....

a boat without a propeller

a lover without a tongue

a surveyor without a map

or

A BUSH cabinet advisor

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I am sorry to disappoint you, and this is staight from Najakcharmer's leather bound book of truths:

A DOM without fairness is a Dom without judgment.

The exercise of judgment is the most important thing a DOM does.

So, Proprietrix, (how can you have propriety without fairness?), your totem pole is UPSIDE DOWN.

So, Celeste, no one determines fairness at all, and it doesn't stop when you enter middle school either. No, fairness is derivitive of natural law and the Dostoevskian conscienceness embedded in all civilized men. This is not to say that fairness is uniform, but rather to say it is bindingly transcendent.






Slipstreme -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 2:30:27 PM)

Caring
Intuition
Knowledge, and the desire to seek that which they do not know how to do properly. Along with this is judgement, the ability to know how to apply something that you know and when.



BitaTruble -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 2:39:29 PM)

Webster's Universal Encyclopedic Dictionary 2002 edition

Page - 656

Fair: 6a - marked by impartiality and honesty: free from self-interest, prejudice or favoritism

Never met a Master yet who was free from self-interest. If that's what you want, go for it. Not my cup of tea, so we'll have to just disagree on this point.

Celeste




Vendaval -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 2:49:33 PM)

Well, tongue in cheek response here, based on letters from
subs/slaves/switches 
 
#1 really freaking hot body
#2 filthy rich and a real descent of decadent nobility
#3 private land with dungeon and torture chambers
#4 stables for slaves, pony and puppy play equipment
#5 large group of Domme's in training as assistants
#6 very expensive wardrobe and equipment and cars
#7 wants no limit slaves
#8 wants adult babies and human toilets
#9 wants financial domination
#10 will show slave's humiliation and torment on live web cam, 
       pay per view, only
      
 
YMMV,
 
 
Vendaval
 
 




Chaingang -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 3:27:18 PM)

Now I remember why I have you on block:

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy
IMO the three most important qualities in a Mistress are: FIRMNESS, FAIRNESS, and UNDERSTANDING.


I can't speak for Female Dominants...

...But if you have firmness in treatment and you actually conform to expectations - you will not even need the other two. Yup, it's Yoda time: "Do or do not do. There is no try."

What you want is to be able to fuck up without consequence and I doubt that will happen unless you pay to play and are therefore calling the shots. In a real world Domme/sub situation your Mistress may be forgiving when and if she decides there is a reason to be forgiving - but I wouldn't test her limits on the issue. Forgiveness dries up fast.



Vendaval -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 3:28:38 PM)

What a great lists of qualities so far -
 
Firmness, understanding, strength, intelligence, honesty, integrity,
compassion, courage, honor, judicious, caring, intuition, knowledge,
superiority, imagination, darkness, beauty and will.
 
What to add?  I would say creativity, adaptability and high level
communication skills.

Peace and Light,

Vendaval 



gooddogbenji -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 3:38:17 PM)

My 3 most important qualities are:

Human
Alive
Over 18

After that, maybe:

Female
Dominant
Interested in me

Then, maybe, we can get into:

Fair
Firm
Understanding
Strong
Non-leprous

And then, what may be a deal breaker still is distance, age, kinks, level of commitment, already taken, etc...

I think I might start a thread on "If you had to live the rest of your life with only one organ, which would it be?" and see whether people are as willing to narrow it down.

Yours,


benji



aurora31 -> RE: The Three (3) Most Vital DOMME qualities (5/19/2006 3:58:05 PM)

I would add integrety(sp)....thats a big one for me along with inner strength and consistency.

aurora



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