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Is there an inversely proportional attractiveness to submissive ratio, ie the more physically attractive a person is, the less submissive that person is or is it something unique to these two cases?

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I think this is all totally off base. The woman in question is one who is accustomed to being valued solely for her sexuality. That's quite different than being an attractive receptionist who first greets visitors to a bank. Because strippers are used to being treated like commodities by men who do not see them as people, solely as objects, they develop hard shells to protect themselves. When this dominant showed her that he values her for the same reason all the leering drunks asking for lap dances did, naturally enough she views him in a similar light to the way she views all of them.

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A recent conversation with a Dominant friend of mine has sparked this post and series of questions. He was commenting not only about His relationship with His s-type but also speaking about a conversation that He had had with another Dominant friend of His. He is finding that while the sex is phenomenal with this particular s-type, that she really isn't that submissive. She is BDSM model and former stripper, so fairly attractive and the girl that the other Dominant was talking about falls in the same category of being fairly attractive and highly sexual.

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So the question that arose is this: Is there an inversely proportional attractiveness to submissive ratio, ie the more physically attractive a person is, the less submissive that person is or is it something unique to these two cases? Another question that arose was which was more important phenomenal sex and attractiveness or phenomenal submission. Do you see many people who have both, who are highly physically attractive and also highly submissive and obedient?

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I think women who are highly attractive are simply used to getting what they want and have probably a higher confidence level. They just have simply had no reason to be submissive.

So attractive, successful confident women who want for nothing have no reason to be submissive?

This is wrong on so many levels. It implies that a submissive nature is closely related to greed.

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub

So the question that arose is this: Is there an inversely proportional attractiveness to submissive ratio, ie the more physically attractive a person is, the less submissive that person is or is it something unique to these two cases? Another question that arose was which was more important phenomenal sex and attractiveness or phenomenal submission. Do you see many people who have both, who are highly physically attractive and also highly submissive and obedient?

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Am I the only one who is finding this thread confusing?

I know that the question did not start out to be one of confusion; it has however turned around so that the actual questions that were asked are no longer quite coherent.

After reading the whole thread, responses included, I find myself even more confused than when the original question was asked.



I am going to try and pick it apart; hopefully, heartfeltsub will correct me is I am wrong in my interpertation of her questions.

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A recent conversation with a Dominant friend of mine has sparked this post and series of questions. He was commenting not only about His relationship with His s-type but also speaking about a conversation that He had had with another Dominant friend of His. He is finding that while the sex is phenomenal with this particular s-type, that she really isn't that submissive. She is BDSM model and former stripper, so fairly attractive and the girl that the other Dominant was talking about falls in the same category of being fairly attractive and highly sexual.

From THIS, I am understanding that both men are with women who are HIGHLY SEXUAL BECAUSE of their apparant attractiveness? Also, that because they are HIGHLY SEXUAL, they are therefore not overly submissive?
( This is the interpertation that I come to after reading the above quote )

So, based on the above, your questions don't make much sense.

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So the question that arose is this: Is there an inversely proportional attractiveness to submissive ratio, ie the more physically attractive a person is, the less submissive that person is or is it something unique to these two cases? Another question that arose was which was more important phenomenal sex and attractiveness or phenomenal submission. Do you see many people who have both, who are highly physically attractive and also highly submissive and obedient?

Your first quote asked about submissiveness in relation to a person being highly sexual.
These questions, instead, ask if attractiveness has any bearing on submission.

I am trying to make the connection between being highly sexual/submission to attractive/submission. And I am failing a great deal.

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ORIGINAL: catize

If I am reading this correctly, your D friend wants someone highly sexual, attractive and submissive to him. He has 2 out of 3 and it isn't quite good enough.
I do not believe one's beauty or handsome good looks has much to do with submission or dominance. Is your friend attractive? Does that make him a better dominant? He has obviously chosen mind blowing sex with a hot babe over a d/s dynamic.
~Shrug~ That tells me what is most important to him.

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ORIGINAL: lally2

if its true that a Dominant is more likely to allow himself to be manipulated by a stunner, then thats his phuck up - why would a submissive stick with a guy whose too star struck to Dominate her.  who wants a soppy puppy Dom sucking up to them.

any sub worth her salt, who finds herself in a situation where she isnt being Dominated and is allowed to take the piss all day long is going to lose respect and walk.

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
This makes a great deal of sense, one doesn't have to be attractive to be manipulative and if something exists in a relationship that one party doesn't want to give up, they will put up with a great deal to keep the aspect that they want to keep.

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub

Actually maybe a better way to ask the question that I am wondering is as follows: If the sex with your s-type is phenomenal, would that have any bearing on how obedient or respectful you would expect him or her to be. Or would you let some disobedience or un-submissive behavior slide because of the great sex?

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Is there an inversely proportional attractiveness to submissive ratio, ie the more physically attractive a person is, the less submissive that person is or is it something unique to these two cases?

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I admit it, when I was 25 I was a stunner.

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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I admit it, when I was 25 I was a stunner.

so you'll be 26 in 11 months then?