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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 5:12:44 AM

LillyBoPeep

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i think women just like to chat/post more. so it takes on a chicky vibe because there are so many of us.
but i do think that male subs have very different perspectives at times than female subs and i've often been interested in talking to them on their takes on things. for one thing, i think it's more "acceptable" to be a female sub/slave than a male, because our society still says "men lead, women follow." a female sub isn't likely to be called pussy-whipped or weak, or whatever; she can just say she's "old fashioned," and most people will get it, and even respect it. we do have some pretty great dudes around here who you should follow, as others have said; Rochsub is one of my favorites, but i feel bad naming names because i'm terribly forgetful with names. we have many great msub contributors.
maybe you can start the charge in getting more sub male perspective here? post threads from your perspective, and invite others to comment. but be aware that there are a lot of female s-types and we'll probably contribute, too. once you post a thread, it's open season.

as was said earlier, the forum titles are more suggestions than anything. i'm not a female Dominant but i visit Ask a Mistress on occaision; there are really interesting topics over there at times. sometimes i comment in Ask a Master, but i'm obviously not a male Dominant, either. sometimes male Dominants comment in Ask a Mistress, and female Dominants in ask a Master -- it really doesn't matter as much as you might think it does (especially if you never visit the Ask a Master forum =p).

i guess for many of us, the chromosomes of the people don't matter so much as exchanging perspective with them. while i'm not particularly interested in male submissives, i don't go out of my way to avoid mentionings of their relationship dynamics. why are you so set against hearing about MDom/fsub relationships?

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 3:59:11 PM

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If it seems to be focused on the female sub perspective, then I'll just preface my response by saying something like "The OP asked for the opinion of female subs, but I'd like to share a male sub perspective on the topic".

This is why I hope it isn't split up. I don't think it really matters if a person is male or female, service is service, love is love, and right is right. I've said it before <I just said it in the "Who's the rightest" thread>, and I'll happily say it again. Just about everything you, a hetero male sub, say is directly applicable to me, a gay female slave.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 6:31:17 PM

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I'm a switch, but Ask a Switch is dead pretty much.

i think this is because there really aren't that fucking many issues that relate just to being a switch, pretty much anything we want to discuss will fall into one of the other forums. the whole switch forum is probably just a result of trying not to snub anybody. i don't think we really need the fucker.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 6:38:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

quote:

I'm a switch, but Ask a Switch is dead pretty much.
i think this is because there really aren't that fucking many issues that relate just to being a switch, pretty much anything we want to discuss will fall into one of the other forums. the whole switch forum is probably just a result of trying not to snub anybody. i don't think we really need the fucker.

Yeah, pretty much that's it, I think too.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 11:02:11 PM

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I'm of the opposite opinion. I've always thought it was a bit redundant to have both a 'Ask a Master' and 'Ask a Mistress' section. Although in an M/f relationship, I read and answer posts in both. There are some things which are specific to one gender, such as genital play, but most issues could be experienced by anyone, regardless of gender.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/7/2011 11:34:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

As I mentioned earlier, I never visit Ask Master, so I'm not aware of the differences that you're referencing. However, I have heard others mention that the tone of the two forums is different. I guess I'll have to visit Ask a Master every now and then so I can see firsthand what you guys are talking about.

Yeah it won't take you long to pick up on it, unless I miss my guess.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 11:38:45 AM

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Personally, I don't think it should be split. I'm of the opinion that it wasn't really necessary to have separate sections for the Master/Mistress categories. The majority of the questions that have to do with D/s from the Dominant's point of view really don't have a lot of consequence which gender that you're addressing. There's very little about power, control, topping techniques, etc, that effect just one gender or the other.

I do happen to think that a number of questions that are directed to male submissives tend to end up in the Mistress forum. If you are wanting to participate more often, OP, you might want to have a look in that section once in a while.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 12:15:42 PM

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I'll check out any post that looks interesting in the scroll. That's how I find myself in the Gorean forum from time to time. I see no need to limit myself, but then, I am a very fast reader.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 12:51:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

why are you so set against hearing about MDom/fsub relationships?

It just doesn't sit right in my head. That's not to be judgemental, it's just that I find talk of Masters so far removed from my world view that adding my own perspective to a topic feels a bit like introducing a comment about the finer points of cricket into a conversation about baseball - not asked for and probably not of interest.

Still, since this thread hasn't been flooded with male subs yearning to be set free in their own section I suspect that it's true that they just don't want to talk.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 1:04:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I'll check out any post that looks interesting in the scroll. That's how I find myself in the Gorean forum from time to time. I see no need to limit myself, but then, I am a very fast reader.

This.

I think I spend the LEAST amount of time in the 'Ask a Mistress' section because it often has the most pathetic threads.

I can only read so many pathetic fetish pleas from bottom males without my, already thin, patience disappearing.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 1:15:20 PM

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It just doesn't sit right in my head. That's not to be judgemental, it's just that I find talk of Masters so far removed from my world view that adding my own perspective to a topic feels a bit like introducing a comment about the finer points of cricket into a conversation about baseball - not asked for and probably not of interest.

You think you feel out of place! Where's the forum for Confused Curious Vanillas? We haven't done anything along these lines, yet we still find things to say, sure we usually joke, but not always.

And even a lot of the jokes are making a point we feel is somehow relevant.

If talking about a Master bothers you, then just replace it with Mistress and give your input.

Exactly, it's what you think that people are interested in. Who knows, your input may just be the bit that turns on the light for somebody.

Or start your own thread. I did when I had something I needed to figure out, and I got my answer very quickly, and from a person who had no direct experience in the precise sort of interaction I was thinking about. He'd never been in the situation I was concerned about, but his ideas and thoughts were still applicable.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/8/2011 4:55:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
That's how I find myself in the Gorean forum from time to time.

Noooooooooo! Say it ain't so! Not the Gorean forum! Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!!

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/9/2011 11:54:52 AM

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There is the occasional interesting thread in that locale.

Although........I must say it is most entertaining when they regulars are verbally beating some clueless bozo.

Names withheld to protect the........the......not innocent persay.......theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, ah ha! Lasting ability of this particular post!

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/13/2011 8:37:52 PM

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Greetings

Perhaps this section should be split, but then female subs do answer in the ask a Master category and so on, the sections are more based on what sort of topics one will find there rather than who actively posts. I also think that allot of the issues and questions a female sub have is also shared by a male sub.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/15/2011 8:11:33 AM

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speaking as a male sub: I don't bother with Ask a Master, Ask a switch, gorean, or poly forums as they don't apply to me. While I'm bi, I don't bother with Ask a Master because I'm not really big on serving male Doms...

With that said, I think the forums are set up just the way they should be. The certain fact that cliques are forming in specific threads means that they are working properly. I wouldn't try to fix what isn't broken. Besides, if the threads get split up there will be more people that won't bother to view "ask a fem sub" or "ask a male sub", and that will only cause further disparity between threads. I'd rather they remained just as they are now.

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RE: Should this section be split? - 8/18/2011 12:03:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: paulmcuk

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

why are you so set against hearing about MDom/fsub relationships?

It just doesn't sit right in my head. That's not to be judgemental, it's just that I find talk of Masters so far removed from my world view that adding my own perspective to a topic feels a bit like introducing a comment about the finer points of cricket into a conversation about baseball - not asked for and probably not of interest.

Still, since this thread hasn't been flooded with male subs yearning to be set free in their own section I suspect that it's true that they just don't want to talk.

I'm a male sub, and I haven't really been here in this forum much lately. Sometimes, I've felt similar to you in this regard, although I can't say that I understand fully how the different sections are organized.

I never even knew what "Gorean" meant before I came to this forum. Then I did a little Googling on it and found out. I figure, if I'm going to base my lifestyle on science fiction, then I would pick Star Trek, but that's just me.

Another thing I would mention, as a male sub, is that most of the questions I've had have already been asked and answered in other threads, so there's no real need to start new threads about things which have already been discussed extensively. I think that's just a matter of board etiquette, so if I feel I have nothing relevant or worthwhile to contribute, I'll probably just lurk instead.

I'll admit that it does seem inconsistent to have separate forums for male and female dominants, while having both male and female submissives in the same forum. This structure seems to imply that "a sub is a sub," regardless of gender. I'm not sure exactly how one reaches that conclusion, but that seems to be how it is.

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