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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
Now how did I just know you are of the "I don't believe in switches" ilk?

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Tell me then, you had some time to observe me on these fora, what am *I*? Dom or sub?

And why do I have a sneaky suspicion you don't believe dom females exist either, they are merely "playing a role."

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
Now how did I just know you are of the "I don't believe in switches" ilk?

  I would've thought the fact that I'm a rational human being who can reason would tend to give the game away on that one.

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Tell me then, you had some time to observe me on these fora, what am *I*? Dom or sub?

And why do I have a sneaky suspicion you don't believe dom females exist either, they are merely "playing a role."

  If you believe the premise inherent in your second question, then that pretty much answers the first, doesn't it.

It's interesting watching the inflexibility of your minds come to the fore when someone refuses to swallow the party line.  I sometimes wonder how many understand the inherently subjective nature of their truths.  No, I don't believe switches exist.  You can't be "a little bit dominant" in the same way you can't be "a little bit pregnant".  You're either dominant, or you're not.  You either have a drive to bend the world to your will or you do not.

In the same way, I don't think WIITWD is a bunch of gnostic knowledge which requires study and arcane rituals before one can be inculcated into its deep inner mysteries.   Contrary to the nonsense you see promulgated, you're not inducted into this lifestyle, you don't need to follow its rituals, study at the feet of a master or become part of a brotherhood or sisterhood.

*shrug*  Having said that, I simply don't care.  People can believe whatever they wish.  I just find my model on this to be far more useful than a bunch of chicks discussing the finer points of Domme etiquette.  Namely, that the problem here is that he's allowed his world-view to be shaken by some tart who's fundamentally in it for the money and that the real answer is to harden the fuck up and stop being such an easily-led pussy.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
Insulting my intelligence doesn’t work on me, I don’t need you to validate who I am.  

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  I thought it was the pathetic male subs who were responsible for the thread hijacks.

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Or perhaps the delusional male doms who think have a dick somehow makes them special.

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Most people are comprised of more that one character attribute. That you have one trait that supercedes all others doesn’t make you special, it makes you limited.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

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ORIGINAL:  Awareness
As for dominant women - pfffft.  All I see are weak men being led round by their balls.  I've never seen a single male sub express any aspect of submission which isn't tied to getting his cock hard.  They strike me as fetishists getting off and the 'dominant' women around the place are indulging them and thinking this somehow constitutes dominance.  I remain unconvinced.

  How many female dominants or switches do you know in real life? And I mean really know?

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Your world view is not wildly divergent, it’s old fashioned and traditional and has been around for centuries. Your views are a throw back, nothing more.

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And BTW, I don’t hate you, as I don’t even know you. If I feel anything it is pity.

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You actually think that seducing those who are emotionally weaker than you so you can manipulate them for your own use is being “dominant?”   I call it being a bully.

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The fact that you have to descend into personal attacks tells me these little chit chats we’ve been having disconcert you. I look forward to watching you further implode in future.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Look, I know you're not all that bright but do your best to keep up.  If you're seriously trying to tell me you haven't noticed - as someone once put it to me in email - the way in which conversation here is mostly hijacked by the usual bunch of aging Dommes, then your intelligence is more workmanlike than I thought.

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People can call themselves a pasta recreation of the Venus De Milo for all I care, but that doesn't mean I find their self-labeling has any validity whatsoever.  And it's especially ironic given the constant complaints about would-be Doms who try and play at dominance.  Do switches really think they're any better?  For Dom's, dominance is a character attribute but for switches it's a new set of clothes they try on every now and then?  Ridiculous.

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As for dominant women - pfffft.  All I see are weak men being led round by their balls.  I've never seen a single male sub express any aspect of submission which isn't tied to getting his cock hard.  They strike me as fetishists getting off and the 'dominant' women around the place are indulging them and thinking this somehow constitutes dominance.  I remain unconvinced.

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What you're going to have to do is put your big girl panties on and realise some people have wildly divergent world-views and think for themselves.  They don't follow the herd just because there's pressure to do so.  I realise you've chosen the easy path, but it's rather pathetic of you to hate simply because you're ashamed of your own weakness.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Well, I'm one of those "aging Dommes".  If you would like to question My intelligence, please, have at it.

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Do I hijack threads here once in a while?  You bet I do.  How else would you have Me treat some of the insipid nonsense that crosses these forums?  Not all of us are satisfied with being stuck in the 101 class forever. 

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Folks like CP, they have far more patience and tolerance about it than I do.  It says more about her character than Mine.

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You are too hung up on the term "SWITCH".  You forget too easily that a "switch" can also mean one who tops or bottoms during a scene.  Those people doing so are happy and content.  They try things because they want to and find fulfillment of it.  Do you really think they give a flying crap what you think when they do so?

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Your memory is short.  Mine is longer.

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My boy happens to have courage that you do not have the strength to experience.  The fact that he has inner fortitude that you so not is not a fault of your own.  Perhaps you would like to trade places with him?  Of course, as a coward, you will not.

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Is that so?  Did you not choose the easy path?  In fact, you did follow the heard.  You conformed!

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Oh, I won't complain about your own personal weakness.  You display it here regularly.

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The bravado means nothing to Me. 

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Why is it that most men do not want to pay to play? I am a lifestyler and have topped men and have experienced this cheap-O attitude.
Do they realize how much work, time, effort goes into playing? The toys are expensive, takes time to get ready, etc. all for what?
the pleasure of tapping your ass with a feather? NO WAY! I say if you want something specific and don't want a, b, c done to you then you
must go pro domme, pay the lovely woman extra for taking on your sorry ass and kiss her hand after the session.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

  How many female dominants or switches do you know in real life? And I mean really know?

  None.  They're both mythological creatures as far as I'm concerned.  I've yet to see any evidence in the real world or online which convinces me otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
You don't strike me as particularly bright, and your self-testimony is hardly relevant.

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You have the option of displaying the dominant personality you claim to have, hardening the fuck up and simply not caring.  Your consistent inability to tolerate a dissenting view shouts your weakness to the world.

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Yes, yes, yes, you consistently talk yourself up in pretty much every post you make.  Apparently you're not bright enough to realise what you're telling people about you.

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I'm sure they don't, so why are you asking such a stupid question?  Is this your self-lauded intelligence in action?

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I'm sure you remember whatever is convenient to you.

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I'm sure you'll dress it up any way you want.  That's nothing more than your own self-interest at play and anyone with a lick of intelligence can see it.

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No.  I did not.

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You possess insufficient insight to fully understand your own character - your ability to read mine is limited.

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Holding fast to a personal opinion isn't bravado woman, it's called having a spine.  It seems incredibly bizarre for a woman of your years to not understand that there are people under the sun who will not only think as they like but will be manifestly unconcerned with your opinion of them for doing so.

Your lack of strength which requires you to attempt to erase a dissenting view from an online forum in which you participate is entirely your own problem.  I suggest you meditate upon your inability to cope and ask yourself what it really means.  I have a different view.  I make no apologies for that view.  If you had the strength you consistently claim you would simply dismiss my views as idiocy - much as I dismiss yours - and go about your day.  That you cannot, says much about you.

I don't run around trumpeting my views to rile up the natives.  However nor will I shrink from expressing them when appropriate.  You folks are universally egalitarian provided you also have universal agreement.  You bemoan the lack of tolerance from the vanilla world, then display exactly that same intolerance when someone dares to think differently from your pre-agreed notion of how the world works.  Here's a clue:  My opinions really don't affect you all that much.  So harden up, eh?  There's a good girl.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
You do understand that I don’t seek your validation, your agreement, or anything else. I don’t think I can change your skewed world view. I respond to you for one reason, b/c there might be someone new enough or naïve enough to buy into your drivel, and I feel duty bound to offer an alternate view. You will note I don’t bother to take you one when someone else (another aging domme perhaps?) has already done the work for me.

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Ho hum, please try harder to offend me, those are not worth my time.

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Sorry my dear, everyone possesses contrary personality traits. It’s what makes us the flawed, imperfect, conundrum that is human. And yes, I even include you.

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Allow me to correct that, you world view as stated on these fora is not wildly divergent, it’s a throw back to centuries old stereotyping.

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I tolerate plenty of divergent thought. A quick perusal of my forum posts should make that clear. What I don't tolerate is the perpetuation of your male supremacy drivel.

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Ahh, so now we have (once again) moved from me, personally to women. Watch it sweetie, your misogyny is slipping.

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I need to ask for clarity, did you just  admit to taking advantage of emotionally weaker females in the name of “dominance?”

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Yes, those kind. And *my* personal attack was much more subtle that your personal attack.

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B/c it wasn't framed as an attack, but an observation. I do have to look at your profile and check your age, b/c I can’t believe that someone with your intelligence is this immature in their thinking. It speaks of the type of profoundly myopic viewpoint that comes from past emotional trauma. I assume some female hurt you badly in the past.

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Hoisted by my own petard, how droll!! You do know the meaning of this phrase, right? It means blown up by your own bomb, in other words, it went off too early !! Premature ejaculation,  anyone?

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
You don't strike me as particularly bright, and your self-testimony is hardly relevant.

Yes, and doesn't that just suck for you.  It must eat you up.

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Oh, I'll be the first to tell you that, as a sadist, I enjoy stomping you into the ground.  The fact that I toy with you in these little ventures is only for My amusement.  Debating with you is nothing more than cat and mouse.

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I'll stand on My own reputation.  Something that you can not do.  I'm sure that supposed intellect comforts you in the night.

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What good does intelligence do you in being alone?

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Why is the phrase "arm chair general" ring in My ears?

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I would differ.  You just don't know what it is to have the balls to go against the tide.  The fact that I even bring it up challenges you in ways that you can't handle.

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My character is just fine, sweetheart.  How's yours?

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Dear, we should settle this now.  You, in your little world, doesn't bother Me a bit.  The fact that you play keyboard commando doesn't affect Me in the slightest.  There are six billion people on this planet. The fact that you even think you have significance over the net????

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If you want to try making chicken salad out of chicken shit, be My guest.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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The fact that you're not particularly bright sucks for me?  Only in the sense that debating you feels like shooting fish in a barrel.  I'm not sure why you think it'd eat me up.  Your inability to keep up is kinda sad, but I can't conceive of a circumstance under which it'd cause me any angst.

Yeah.  OK.  You might be able to bullshit others, but you don't fool Me.  If you had a girl at your feet, you wouldn't even bother with this little game.

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Are you sure you know what you're doing?  Perhaps get Hanners to teach you how to insult people properly.  You're not very good at this.

Well, damn.  Didn't you just recognize a switch there? 

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You think your chick tantrums are stomping someone into the ground?  I realise people have different world-views but proclaiming victory seems not only premature but somewhat sad.  Are you that desperate for validation?

I had no tantrum with you, dear.  When I am done playing with you, I will go curl up with My husband in My bed.  The fact that you suffer loneliness between your sheets only confirms My opinion.

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I think that's pretty much the problem.  You'll stand on your reputation in an arena which constructs support for you.  I stand by myself with only my wits and my fundamental self-belief.  I wonder if you're insightful enough to realise you require the supporting structures of others as a crutch.  That, my dear, constitutes dependency.

I wonder if you are insightful enough to recognize your own isolation.  When I die, people will mourn.  When you do, no one will care anymore than wiping their own ass.  When your carcase rots, who will find it?

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The two are unrelated.  Attempting to connect them would seem counter-intuitive.

So you say.

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Probably because you've spent so much time broadcasting your superiority to anyone who will listen that you've forgotten what it's like to be challenged and have to engage in conflict yourself.

Baby, I don't have to broadcast.  I've walked away from this before and could do it again.  I don't give a shit about your supposed "challenges".  I would sit here and be quite content.  My husband, children, and grandchildren are more than enough to fill My world.  For God's sake, man!  Don't you pay attention.

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Odd.  I've pretty much asserted that the problem here is that I'm doing exactly that and yet you claim the opposite.  What you have here is a perceptual problem.

For what it's worth, sugar, the problem is yours.  If you died tomorrow, there isn't a soul that would give a shit.  Least of all Me. 

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Flawed, yet fundamentally decent.  Thanks for asking, cupcake.

Funny.  I've never seen you display decency.  Are you quite sure you are using the right term?

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Y'know, that'd have a bit more credibility if you hadn't just expended time and energy responding to me multiple times.  Honestly, do you even think about what you're saying before you say it?

Which part of "toying with trolls for My amusement" don't you get?  Think! boy!

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I'm not sure I really needed any more confirmation that I'm dealing with the slow class, but I appreciate you expending so much effort on confirming it.

Thank you, come again!

Aw, aren't you cute.  Fuck, this is like doing volunteer work with the mentally ill.  God!  I might have an orgasm.  Your ignorance is delightful.



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The crowned Diva of Destruction. ~ ExT

Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

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(in reply to Awareness)

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It's interesting watching the inflexibility of your minds come to the fore when someone refuses to swallow the party line.

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  I sometimes wonder how many understand the inherently subjective nature of their truths. 

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No, I don't believe switches exist.  You can't be "a little bit dominant" in the same way you can't be "a little bit pregnant".  You're either dominant, or you're not.  You either have a drive to bend the world to your will or you do not.