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It's remarks and attitudes like these that give BDSM a bad name.

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now to the op. i guess i would define extreme play as anything that ends with the one or both of you in the fucking er without it being an accident. averything else is just fooling around.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

I start to consider it extreme play when the power tools come out.
She sees the air hammer and just starts flipping...and we won't even discuss the drill

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no. don't be so fucking dumb. what gives bdsm a bad name is that we beat the living shit out of each other. we carve pictures into people without anesthetic, we shove needles and pins and skewers through peoples most tender body parts, we nail tits and balls to tables, we beat, burn, bruise, and brand people for kicks. we're really very sick motherfuckers, and that's what gives bdsm a bad name, ok? got it?

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ORIGINAL: ThatsMissBitch
LOL well I am an insomniac and probably bored too but I really just wanted to see other peoples idea of extreme. The boards were boring the chat rooms even more boring and I like discussions.

Ah, cool.  We'll probably get to have a number of future nights to yap about stuff, one insomniac to another. 

I can't say I consider the list itself extreme.  Enjoying playing with those mentioned, Myself, I understand that there is a scale.  Needles I actually consider pretty tame, but I get great space from using them.  I get just as much of a thrill from using a 25G as I do a 16G.  To the outside observer though, the latter can be enough to scare someone silly.  For electricity, the device that you use can make all of the difference in the world.  A TENS unit just isn't as much fun to watch as a violet wand.  Fire can actually be pretty darn simple and is more about the showmanship than anything else.  These days, folks ask to be taught on that more than just about anything, even though it's little more than a parlor trick.

Cuttings are the ones that I consider more intimate.  I don't consider those casual play.

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ORIGINAL: stoni23

I could care less about what other people think that are vanilla; they will never accept us. I'm talking about new people that are starting the journey, and are off put by rude behavior. If I'm someone timid and shy and just starting to look into things that have been ground into me to be socially wrong, and start asking questions on a message board only to be met with hostility I'm going to start questioning this path I'm undertaking. Me personally, you can hurl insults at me all day and I could care less, but lots of other people aren't so thick skinned as me...

For people on the outside, they could care less how rude we are, because they will never get beyond our kinkiness and what we deem acceptable fun.

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ORIGINAL: stoni23

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no. don't be so fucking dumb. what gives bdsm a bad name is that we beat the living shit out of each other. we carve pictures into people without anesthetic, we shove needles and pins and skewers through peoples most tender body parts, we nail tits and balls to tables, we beat, burn, bruise, and brand people for kicks. we're really very sick motherfuckers, and that's what gives bdsm a bad name, ok? got it?

I could care less about what other people think that are vanilla; they will never accept us. I'm talking about new people that are starting the journey, and are off put by rude behavior. If I'm someone timid and shy and just starting to look into things that have been ground into me to be socially wrong, and start asking questions on a message board only to be met with hostility I'm going to start questioning this path I'm undertaking. Me personally, you can hurl insults at me all day and I could care less, but lots of other people aren't so thick skinned as me...

For people on the outside, they could care less how rude we are, because they will never get beyond our kinkiness and what we deem acceptable fun.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

It seems like needles, cutting, etc are becoming mainstream. I certainly don't consider them extreme! But I have always enjoyed blood, my own and other people's.

I think that anything done in an unsafe manner is extreme. Ignoring fluid issues--extreme. Unsafe rigging---extreme. That sort of thing.

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

It seems like needles, cutting, etc are becoming mainstream. I certainly don't consider them extreme! But I have always enjoyed blood, my own and other people's.

I think that anything done in an unsafe manner is extreme. Ignoring fluid issues--extreme. Unsafe rigging---extreme. That sort of thing.

Fair enough.....so what do we call the stuff in the middle like knives, scalpels, needles, bullwhips, fire, electricity, etc. that cause mayhem but no one is in immediate danger of dying?