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What I don't like about the tea party in general is that all I hear from the candidates is rhetoric. I agree that our current domestic aid policies are broken. I think they need to be fixed. Look at housing complexes for example. People that live around them hate them, people that run them hate them and people that live in them hate them. That whole system is broken. However you don't fix things by simply getting rid of them. It's a very difficult challenge to overcome. I expect out elected officials to come up with a viable plan that will actually address the problems and work toward a solution.When I hear things like cut off billions in funding without the first having a discussion about where people go, what about the children, how long do we give people time to find other housing, or even if there is enough housing then it's a bullshit "solution" without any real plan. Does that make any sense at all? Do people not see a difference between a desire and a plan?
When I hear talk about people being on drugs or lazy and still on government assistance and that we should get rid of those payments it raises all sorts of questions. First is who decides who is unfit to receive the assistance and is there an appeals process. Second is that most assistance is under "aid to dependent children." So if you cut the aid you leave the children without support. We already have a system for removing kids from homes and that system is already overtaxed and rather broken. So who has a place for an extra couple of million kids to go live? I know that nobody really believe we should just let them starve so what is the plan and how much will that cost? As with all things, we can't make a budget without a plan.
As for health care not being a right, I don't consider it a right -- I consider it a basic need. We tend to enforce certain regulations on basic human needs to prohibit industries from taking unfair advantage of the consumer. I just think that should apply to the health insurance industry. We have given them at least my lifetime to fix it and they haven't so they fail in my opinion.
Sorry Music but like most liberals on this board you throw up reasons why systems cannot be changed as opposed to solutions for their change. So health care is a basic need? Is food? Should we all have free food? Is medicine? Should we all have free medicine? Is clothing? Should we all have free clothing? Aren't utilities a basic need? Should we all have free utilities? How about a car so we can get to work or a hospital or a grocery store? Should we all have free cars? If so, should we all have free gas, oil and maintenance? Surely you would agree that buses shouldn't charge and there should be no tolls on the tunnels or bridges or for the subway, for that matter, right? If we should have only a few of those things, which few are they and why shouldn't we have the other things mentioned in the list?
If I suddenly decide to start voluntarily experimenting with heroine, should I, a reasonably successful, while male, get free rehab? If I lose my house due to my addiction, should I get free housing?
I don't know what rhetoric you are talking about coming from the Tea Party. Our budget has to be slashed by trillions of dollars. Where would you like to start? Our defense budget is approximately 50% of our budget...tell me where you would like it to be and how many people will become unemployed as a result of that and how it may change our level of military preparedness and what our men and women in the armed forces should be paid. Do you want to bring it down to 5% of our total budget? How about 30%? Would you like to opine what the impact would be on our military? What else would you like to cut? Or...perhaps you would like to do some increases. Would you like everyone in the U.S. to have an assured income of $30,000.00? What happens to those people who over extend or develop addictions or have unplanned pregnancies that thereafter cannot live within that $30,000.00 per year subsidy, what do we do with them? Perhaps you would like to increase the pensions of government employees to....what?; 100 percent of their salary...maybe 120%? But SURELY you don't want to reduce any payments for welfare, right? Or housing. Or utility credits or food stamps. No...if you did that, people could suffer, right? The mere fact that they are going to suffer anyway doesn't even factor in and we will cross that bride (in less than 3 years or so) when we come to it, right?
When the U.S. passes its own form of austerity measures, will you be rioting in the streets like in Greece or England? Or will you be saying that we should have done it long ago? Or will you be saying that even the austerity measures are nowhere near enough to thwart a total collapse?
What*****do*****you*******suggest?
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