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Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 5:53:05 AM   
eruditegirl1


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I have another posting up that asks about lying on the internet....this is some what a follow up question....the situation I found myself in was a Dom lied to me about someone else he seeing on this site....I found out...and confronted him....and proceeded to dump his ass....but....if the other sub had the knowledge...would I have wanted her to tell me....my answer is "yes"....but some people like living in denial...the old "ignorance is bliss"...so as a sub/woman....would you want to know or should I just let it go and allow her to realize on her own.....
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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 5:59:15 AM   
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I would tell her, and let her make her own decision.  But thats just me.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 6:28:04 AM   
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I'd be apt to do a "hey, BTW, just so you are aware...I chose to opt out of this particular poly arrangement".

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 6:35:34 AM   
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She'll either thank you, or call you a jealous lying whore. Either way what is good about it for you?

Just walk away and be happy your no longer entangled in the mess.

K

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 6:59:33 AM   
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there are a few people on here that just flirt like the dickens in them.... there is nothing wrong with that but if somebody is trying to establish a relationship with you and misleading you into believing you are the only one then it is safe to assume that they are doing the same to her.  are you sure they aren't just good friends?  how do you know he is lying?  if i knew that i was speaking with somebody that is poly i would not make a big issue of it but on the other hand if it was misleading to me from the beginning i would assume it was misleading to the other sub(s) he may be talking with.  if you tell her, there is no telling how she will react towards you...but if she is already familiar with his poly tendencies, it shouldn't be a big deal to her.  personally, i would want to know but only so that i could guard my heart from being completely broken.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 7:19:49 AM   
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That's a tough one.  Do what your heart tell you is right.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 8:55:12 AM   
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She may not thank for straight away but i think you should go for it, if it was me id prefer to know even if that would be hard to admitt at first.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 9:13:05 AM   
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the messenger is always the one kicked, my ex cheated on me and i completely lost it on the woman who told me, but in the end i was thankful to her for opening my eyes and thanked her for it .. just brace yourself lol

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 9:13:10 AM   
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She may already be aware of what was between you and this other person. He may have already informed her himself. You really do not know if he was lying to both of you, or only you.

Add to that if she is smitten with him she may not believe you anyhow.

What would I do? I wouldnt tell her to get even with him. Ask yourself your motive in relating this information, is it because he hurt you and you want to hurt him? Is it an altruistic motive of helping a fellow sub? My actions would be determined by the answers I sought within. When we do things to get even with people it ends up hurting us in the end. If you are just worried about this other sub then if I were you I would relate the information in a quick note, and block both of them from contacting you so you do not get dragged into their drama.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 9:53:45 AM   
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Whatever you decide to do....and the decision is entirely yours. I would only hope that you do it tactfully and with dignity. I am sorry that you were decieved and from looking at your picture and reading your profile, It's his loss!
However, the issue is between you three, not the world.
Onward, Onward!   Kevin

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 10:14:44 AM   
BitaTruble


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Sounds like drama.. why would you want to get involved in it?

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 10:34:43 AM   
littleone35


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You can tell her she may not believe you but you lose nothing by the telling maybe you can save her some heartbreak.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:01:41 AM   
LadyHugs


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Dear eruditegirl1, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Wonderful topic to discuss and one issue that is most likely a no win scenerio.
 
Unfortunately, the people who have intimate knowledge of the situation and leave, have their version of the story.  So do the ones who stay.  It may be indeed a very valid warning however, the community at large views solo slaves/submissives as having sour grapes, jealousy and or possessive manipulations as a motive when they do indeed come forward.  It gets to the point of giving up.  Yet, there are cases of such slaves who just are out to spoil any effort of others to find their partners.  You can see what is the problem.  It is a case of he said, she said.
 
Dominants suffer in the same way.  We all suffer bouts of those who have a personal agenda that is negative and or positive.
 
No one person is exempt in this lifestyle to be a target of a disgruntled individual. So, it really is a difficult place for a well meaning and valid concern to be raised, without sounding like it is sour grapes.
 
Dominant and or submissives, do not wish to appear having sour grapes, an agenda to destroy a person over mere personality conflicts.  Such people who are bent on behavior to the extreme just are killjoys; as nobody suits them.
 
Groups are inflicted with cliques.  So, it is difficult to separate the truth from the clique loyalty.  So, with personality conflicts used as a means to black list someone, as has been witnessed in southeastern Virginia repeatedly, it really is not a true guage of someone worthy of caution or disassociation.  It may be true in other areas nation wide and or on an International scale, as it applies to 'the scene.'
 
Individuals with a good reputation are also subjected to false allegations, attacks and threats to undermine their happiness.  I've seen people with notable names subjected to such.  Some I know intimately are worthy of a poor reputation but, are so well packaged to the public they can do no wrong, yet don't practice what they preach in their personal lives--hurting people so very badly indeed.  So, in summary--Dominants and submissives are subjected to a 'no win' situation at times.
 
Approaching another is risky as well.  Emotions are involved and that is difficult to separate from the warning.  If an individual does approach me, I am interested on the behavior that is of concern to them.  Perhaps taking the stance of a private investigator or detective, as Sgt Joe Friday said in Dragnet -- "Just the facts Ma`am/Sir." 
 
In addition, perhaps approaching it as a request instead of a demand, individuals that get warnings will listen better.  We all tend to bristle at having us do things as a demand but, listen when it is a request.  As we all know, we're rather independent and have free will when it comes to choice. 
 
In summary, it is indeed a fluid issue which there are no easy answers to, as each case is different from another.  We all must be guided by our own knowledge, gut instincts, keen observations and not make excuses for what is manifested.  Life is a risk.  How we face, manage and dispose of risks is what matters.
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:37:18 AM   
eruditegirl1


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No...actually...according to him...he is not into poly....in fact he preaches...trust...honesty...and only being with one person at a time....

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:42:03 AM   
eruditegirl1


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I am trying to figure out my motives....but when I break it down...I don't think it's to be vendictive....because as he told me...she has a lot of emotional baggage...and I know how hard it is to trust another after being hurt...so if I tell her...she is hurt and may not trust again....but if it was me...I'd want to know...so I am still undecided....

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:46:21 AM   
eruditegirl1


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Thank you Kevin....that was one of the points I brought up to him...I choose not to date anyone else while we were together...even though it was long distance...and I knew the odds...but going from dating here in Vegas once to twice a week...to not at all...and then to find out that the time frame didn't add up to them getting together....if they were even broken up at all...which I still have to discern....

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:50:42 AM   
eruditegirl1


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I truley wish it had been a casual thing....flirting...etc....but he was going to move here to Vegas...even looked at jobs...studios...etc...for him....so it wasn't just a fly by night thing.....

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/20/2006 11:55:34 AM   
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Like Celeste said, it sounds like a drama, and if I were you I would excuse myself from their drama. If he is the one that has not been straightforward and ends up hurting her as a result ... well that is between the two of them. If you choose to involve yourself further then you are a part of their drama. I do not know if I would want to put myself in that situation.

You are not responsible to her, you have not lied to her, you are not in the position of trust in her life. If she ASKED you then I could see you having an opening to tell her. Her baggage is hers to deal with, and if he creates more for her, well that is on him too. If you do tell her, at least you know you did so for the right reasons, to keep her from further hurt.

But you may want to consider this, perhaps he will not repeat the same behavior with her, perhaps she is "the sub" for him and he is not using her at all. Perhaps what happened between the two of you was not what he intended and he would not repeat that behavior with her? Unless you know for a fact his track record includes many instances of this behavior, then you really do not know if he would hurt her or not. You only know what he did to you.

The question truly is what level have the two of them gotten to. If this is all just internet games, and no real world involvement, well this kinda thing just kinda goes with it. If all this drama centers on collarme and he has not dominated either of you in the real world, well I just have to say that it is just a bunch of drama. If he was scening with BOTH of you in the real world, then you have more of a conundrum I suppose. I would think that would be more serious because of diseases and such.

Good Luck

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/21/2006 4:25:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: eruditegirl1

I have another posting up that asks about lying on the internet....this is some what a follow up question....the situation I found myself in was a Dom lied to me about someone else he seeing on this site....I found out...and confronted him....and proceeded to dump his ass....but....if the other sub had the knowledge...would I have wanted her to tell me....my answer is "yes"....but some people like living in denial...the old "ignorance is bliss"...so as a sub/woman....would you want to know or should I just let it go and allow her to realize on her own.....


Do you know her? Is she a friend? If so, and she asks you out straight, I would tell her the truth. If you aren't in contact with either of them, forget about both of them and BASTA.

As a submissive, I would definitely WANT to know. Hence my adivce. Good luck.

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RE: Telling another sub - 5/22/2006 12:45:35 PM   
slaverosebeauty


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I would tell her, all you both know he could have been talking to or 'with' others as well. Let her make her own decision. If it was something serious, then I would DEFIANTLY tell her as if you knew about you I would hope she would be a stand-up person and tell you. Its about respect.

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