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LillyBoPeep -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 3:35:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SuzeCheri
 However they don't seem to be quite so virulent or violent, their's comes across more as disdain rather than the hatred I feel from the men.

Now there's a point to ponder.



i totally agree!
sometimes i get flat-out scared of some of the "attitudes" i run into. there was this really awful caning picture on fetlife, where the Dom who caused it hinted that it was done as punishment or something like that. i think he was just trying to make himself sound like a badass, but there was a flood of guys that came and said things like "she deserved it" or "this is how it should be," etc etc. i mean spots on this woman's ass looked like hamburger! open, bloody, or crusty wounds from caning. and that's "how it should be?"

there is a lot of misogyny in the kink world at times. people get into it thinking they can excuse their hatred as a "brand of Dominance." i've run into that same mentality from race players, too, who want to build up a whole relationship with a black chick based on "i'm white, and i'm better than you, so you're SUPPOSED to serve me." but no, it's just a kink. i guess more powe to them if they find someone to go along with them, but if you meet or get a message from them before they do, it can be pretty scary! haha

and you're right -- there are female Dominants who have the same kind of stuff on their profiles, but like you said, it comes across more as disdain, not this deeply ingrained, very serious hatred.  a lot of men preach "natural order" stuff and use that as an excuse, too. or they base it on some fundamentalist religious teaching, which just "can't be challenged."
i've met/talked to some people who just flat out scared me, though, because they were radiating misogyny. oddly enough, though, one of the worst ones i ever met was actually a female Dominant. =p



VaguelyCurious -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:20:18 AM)

Re the OP's attitude to women:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious

What is female submission if not the embodiment of a male chauvinist philosophy?
I'm not sure how any females can claim with a straight face that they want a man to humiliate, dehumanize, objectify, own and degrade them, etc...and still claim to have a conventional (non-exploitative) view of sexual relationships. Newsflash: The types of men who do those kinds of things are male chauvinists, practically by definition. Yes, there are some highly unrealistic people on this site who want someone to alternately beat them and then act like prince charming. The majority of those people are wimmin


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3690804

(Spoken like a man who's never actually seen male dominance in action...)



LillyBoPeep -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:30:47 AM)

^^ nice; that's about what you'd expect from him. =p 



DeviantlyD -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:38:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

Re the OP's attitude to women:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious

What is female submission if not the embodiment of a male chauvinist philosophy?
I'm not sure how any females can claim with a straight face that they want a man to humiliate, dehumanize, objectify, own and degrade them, etc...and still claim to have a conventional (non-exploitative) view of sexual relationships. Newsflash: The types of men who do those kinds of things are male chauvinists, practically by definition. Yes, there are some highly unrealistic people on this site who want someone to alternately beat them and then act like prince charming. The majority of those people are wimmin


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3690804

(Spoken like a man who's never actually seen male dominance in action...)


Gee VaguelyCurious, I missed this posting, although I confess I haven't read all of them. I'm not going to hold back. What a frickin' moron. This guy is clueLESS. He has no freakin' idea. That and...does he seriously view a female submissive as someone who wants humiliation, dehumanization, objectification and degradation? I certainly don't want any of that. I think all of his experiences must have come from watching porn.

And I can tell him personally that yes, I HAVE experienced getting beaten and then being treated by a prince charming type. He is the one without any realistic experiences.

Geez louise. Hey Aderious, aside from your self admission of being a male chauvinist, exactly what sort of real life experience as a dominant man in a dominant/submissive relationship do you have? Any?

Ugh. I'm fine with the mods pulling my post. But I have to express that this guy is a tool.

Oh! And his "wimmin" comment? Well if he wants wimmin, go for it, but personally I doubt he'll get any responses from actual "women".



LillyBoPeep -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:43:42 AM)

the great thing is, that "view forum posts" button on his profile will bring AAAALLLL of this back up to any 18-25 year who responds to him. =p
i've also experienced the beat-you-then-hug-you thing; i enjoy that kind of "conflicting" energy. it's really not that unrealistic, either, because i meet more guys like that than those who think like the OP. i agree; he's the one without realistic perspective because he probably has no real experience actually dealing with people.
to him, "dominance" is a way to justify a really less-than-stellar attitude towards women; he won't really understand people who don't share that.



kalikshama -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:05:13 AM)

Aderious,

I think the belief you expressed in the Spam Filter post is causing you difficulties with attracting subs:

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I doubt that. What is female submission if not the embodiment of a male chauvinist philosophy? I'm not sure how any females can claim with a straight face that they want a man to humiliate, dehumanize, objectify, own and degrade them, etc...and still claim to have a conventional (non-exploitative) view of sexual relationships. Newsflash: The types of men who do those kinds of things are male chauvinists, practically by definition. Yes, there are some highly unrealistic people on this site who want someone to alternately beat them and then act like prince charming.


I submit because it makes my pussy wet. Makes his dick hard, too. Newflash - when he's not being a sadist, he IS Prince Charming. We picked out flatware Friday night :)

I suggest you read "The Loving Dominant."

I'm sorry you're only seeing "shrill cunts" in this thread. Plenty of people gave you good advice here, including my suggestion that you go to the Boston under 35 groups, like this one: http://www.boston-tng.org/

Yesterday, I was at the New England Leather Alliance Circus of Kink, where there WERE attractive 20-something women, including one who took my breath away. IIRC, there was only one black man in attendance, so I'm sure they weren't all with him.

So I repeat my advice to try something different - go to local events and network.



DeviantlyD -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:05:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

the great thing is, that "view forum posts" button on his profile will bring AAAALLLL of this back up to any 18-25 year who responds to him. =p
i've also experienced the beat-you-then-hug-you thing; i enjoy that kind of "conflicting" energy. it's really not that unrealistic, either, because i meet more guys like that than those who think like the OP. i agree; he's the one without realistic perspective because he probably has no real experience actually dealing with people.
to him, "dominance" is a way to justify a really less-than-stellar attitude towards women; he won't really understand people who don't share that.




I know what you mean!!! The guy I referenced (a former play partner) is pretty much a horn dog...but he does respect women. He just happens to prefer the D/s dynamic in his relationships. And any time he ever gave me a good whacking, I never felt he was doing it because he had to put a woman in her place, or anything derogatory, but because he actually enjoyed what he was doing, enjoyed inflecting pain...and I enjoyed receiving it. :D And afterwards he gave great aftercare. :) Unless the OP is willing to examine his life and change his outlook, I doubt he will ever experience that kind of fun.



angelikaJ -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:34:41 AM)

You asked a question and various people answered it.

You also got unsolicited advice on how to fix your profile and/or improve your chances when you were very clear that you did not want that.

I was one of those people and I would like to say I am sorry for offering unwanted advice.




kalikshama -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:36:40 AM)

Nothing wrong with addressing what one perceives as the REAL issue.



angelikaJ -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:40:03 AM)

There also can be harm done in trying to "fix"... .



DeviantlyD -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:40:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I would like to say I am sorry for offering unwanted advice.


Why are you sorry? This is a public message board. You're free to post anything you like, within the confines of the TOS. Other than wasting your time, I don't see what you have to be sorry for.



NakisisaX -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 5:42:05 AM)

I don't have an answer for you, especially in dealing with my Queens at that age who seek out their unnatural opposites for their mates. Brain damage perhaps?



erieangel -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 7:04:00 AM)

What a thread!!

The OP has it all wrong. When I was <25, I was already married, so I don't exactly remember how it was to be single at that age. But, hey, my husband was <25 too, so he obviously did something right. :)

I do have to say that if my 24 year old daughter hooked up with somebody like the OP, I'd probably beat her, lock her up and then run him off with my Remington. Good thing she is married to a man who genuinely likes women, virtually worships the ground she walks on and knows how to show empathy. And no, he's not a pussy. He is strong, capable and a provider.



Buzzzz -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 8:11:38 AM)

wow!!! 12 pages. It appears the op is clueless and wants to keep on sending about 50 messages a day (half of a 100), and get a full inbox. If that is what he likes, good luck with that. If he want to meet someone, I suggets he changes his approach.



Nineviles -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 11:43:22 AM)

 "you stupit worm"  = sexual turn on for a special group of men into humiliation.  The target grouup of men fucking love that shit and the men become putty on her hands.  It works. 

Problem is most women subs ain't into being humiliated and degraded due to the simple fact that as women they have that stuff thrown in their face  anyway.

 On the other hand this guy aderious doesn't care if  the women get into sexually or not.  Odds are he probablly prefers they ::::don't::: get off on it so he can vent his insecurities on her and actually hurt her. If he cared for women he would write his profile out that would appeal to women, not bruised women with low self esteem as his profile calls out to.



LadyConstanze -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:22:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

Re the OP's attitude to women:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious

What is female submission if not the embodiment of a male chauvinist philosophy?
I'm not sure how any females can claim with a straight face that they want a man to humiliate, dehumanize, objectify, own and degrade them, etc...and still claim to have a conventional (non-exploitative) view of sexual relationships. Newsflash: The types of men who do those kinds of things are male chauvinists, practically by definition. Yes, there are some highly unrealistic people on this site who want someone to alternately beat them and then act like prince charming. The majority of those people are wimmin


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3690804

(Spoken like a man who's never actually seen male dominance in action...)



But I bet he's seen a lot of porn and his tennis elbow doesn't come from holding the racket the wrong way [;)]



OsideGirl -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/21/2011 4:28:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

^^ nice; that's about what you'd expect from him. =p 
You'll also notice that females are either "girls" or "wimmin" in his posts and profile. He refuses to use the words woman or women.



Aderious -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (9/22/2011 11:36:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SuzeCheri

I find most of this stuff scary! [:D]

Now that I think about it, I've seen a good number of Domme profiles that go on about how worthless male slaves are, how they are worms and inferior and unworthy of her attention, so I guess it's not just limited to men. However they don't seem to be quite so virulent or violent, their's comes across more as disdain rather than the hatred I feel from the men.

Now there's a point to ponder.


I suggest you read more domme profiles. The vast majority of them are more profane, vulgar, rude, imperious, arrogant, egotistical, self-absorbed, bitchy and condescending than any male dom profiles I've seen. I could post numerous examples if I was allowed to link directly to peoples' profiles. PM me if you want links.

The outright rudest and crudest profiles on this site, by far, belong to female dommes and black male doms. But you won't see anyone on this thread discussing that fact. You won't see the fat bitches here discussing the fact that 90% of the black male doms on this site have a cockshot in their profile, often as their main photo, and nearly all of them do every one of the things which are said to be major turn offs by the wimmin here. Yet they get zero flack for it. Instead of flack they get attractive 19 year old sub white girls messaging them, apparently. Double standard? You bet. Is pointing out this fact the same as whining? Nope. Will this fly clearly over the head of some fat bitch who reads this post? You bet it will.

There's a huge difference between dommes and doms which underlies male and female interactions in general: A domme knows that she can be the biggest cunt in the entire world and she'll still effortlessly attractive messages simply by virtue of having a cunt. This is true even if she's not very good looking and has nothing to offer. Case in point: The fat sacks of lard with bulldog personalities who post here. What kind of man wants to date some drill instructor female who weighs 300 lbs? A fucking degenerate animal, that's who. Or else, a guy who has simply given up and will stick his dick into anything that moves.

A dom knows that he can be the most successful, good-looking, alpha-male personna in the world, yet he'll still be fighting against thousands of other guys just to get average-looking girls to respond to his messages.

This is reality. Wake up and smell it.



Aderious -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (9/22/2011 11:42:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Steelchick002

As a white sub female i can only comment on my own preferences, I like big black cock, black guys fuck better, and you sound like a whiny pussy, maybe thats why girls dont want you?


Black guys don't fuck better. White wimmin simply don't go with white men who advertise how well they fuck or how big their dicks are because that sort of behavior isn't considered acceptable for whites, whereas it is for blacks. And indeed, the vast majority of blacks engage in it.

White bitch reaction to white man who advertises big dick and sexual prowess: Gross, wat a creep!!1 Who doz he think he is!!!
Same bitch's reaction to black man who advertises BBC and sexual prowess: Now dats a real man! Black men are better than wimpy white bois and I love BBC!

Double standard all day, everyday.

If you think I sound like a whiny pussy then come stand within 50 feet of me and we'll see who the pussy is. You'll also get a chance to test your theory that black guys fuck better. You can bring your black male protector to guard you, even.



Aderious -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (9/22/2011 11:52:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Gee VaguelyCurious, I missed this posting, although I confess I haven't read all of them. I'm not going to hold back. What a frickin' moron. This guy is clueLESS. He has no freakin' idea. That and...does he seriously view a female submissive as someone who wants humiliation, dehumanization, objectification and degradation? I certainly don't want any of that. I think all of his experiences must have come from watching porn.


If no one wants those things then explain why the fuck they exist as built-in preferences on the site for people to indicate in their profiles? Christ, what a dumb cunt you are. You must not think through your posts at all. A casual perusal of this site reveals that hundreds of female subs are, indeed, looking for humiliation, dehumanization, objectification, degradation and much more, yet you treat me as some sort of creep for seeking out wimmin with these preferences? What the hell do you think this is, match.com? What is it with you vanilla retards joining a BDSM site and then getting shocked and offended when people practice Bondage-Disciple-Sadism-Masochism?



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