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Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 1:36:01 PM   
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A dose of irony

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 1:38:54 PM   
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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 1:40:15 PM   
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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 1:53:44 PM   
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A dose of irony


Irony maybe, but clearly indicative of a system that does not work.


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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 1:57:10 PM   
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I thought if you married a US cit- you were one?


You still have to go through the paperwork, filing, and interviews.

If you can't afford a good immigration attorney to handle everything it can become frustrating.


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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 2:45:37 PM   
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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 3:50:26 PM   
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Some argue he is an example of the kind of immigrant the federal government will now largely leave alone. The Department of Homeland Security announced Thursday that deportations would focus on criminals.
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Typical government double speak....he IS a criminal. By virtue of being here illegally he is subsequently a criminal. His crime is illegal immigration!

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 3:53:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		His crime is a misdemeanor.  While I wish they would do something, I dont think the fed government needs to concern itself with those types of charges.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 3:54:22 PM   
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I thought if you married a US cit- you were one?


It takes about 5 years to get residency through marriage. You will become legal fast though (case pending). Besides, your need to prove you are actually married, your wife should have certain level of income and she will be legally responsible for your healthcare and other things. After gaining residency it takes 6  more years to become a citizen. In case you get arrested during this time (e.g. DUI) you can be deported. So, the system makes you feel non-secure for long time or kills you if you are weak. I guess, this is the goal; America wants strong-willed immigrants.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 4:00:06 PM   
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His crime is a misdemeanor.  While I wish they would do something, I dont think the fed government needs to concern itself with those types of charges.


Once they bother to close the borders they sure as hell have to focus on all illegals, one way or another.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 4:06:41 PM   
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I thought if you married a US cit- you were one?


You still have to go through the paperwork, filing, and interviews.

If you can't afford a good immigration attorney to handle everything it can become frustrating.


I knew someone going thru that in SoCal, they were told $7,000 for the lawyer. He had to leave the US as well for a while and they both had to do the interviews in Mexico.

My understanding is that its much faster if you marry outside the US rather than in the US. But of course that means the immigrant must wait for the process to be allowed into the US.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 4:13:15 PM   
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His crime is a misdemeanor.  While I wish they would do something, I dont think the fed government needs to concern itself with those types of charges.


Once they bother to close the borders they sure as hell have to focus on all illegals, one way or another.


If the only crime committed is being here illegally, there are far more other crimes they should be focusing on.


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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 5:15:13 PM   
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His crime is a misdemeanor.  While I wish they would do something, I dont think the fed government needs to concern itself with those types of charges.


Once they bother to close the borders they sure as hell have to focus on all illegals, one way or another.


If the only crime committed is being here illegally, there are far more other crimes they should be focusing on.



Not once the borders are closed. It doesnt take "focus", it takes holding employers accountable, like AZ and UT and VA

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 5:20:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Employers.... exactly.  Hold the US citizens accountable who make it easy for them to be here.  They are the criminals.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 7:26:31 PM   
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I thought if you married a US cit- you were one?


It takes about 5 years to get residency through marriage.

Can you source this?

I married a foreign national, and got paperwork for her and her 13 year old daughter in about two months.  Perhaps it has changed since then, but it wasn't that hard.  Provide birth certificates, marriage certificates, medical records and apply.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/19/2011 7:32:33 PM   
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I thought if you married a US cit- you were one?


It takes about 5 years to get residency through marriage.

Can you source this?

I married a foreign national, and got paperwork for her and her 13 year old daughter in about two months.  Perhaps it has changed since then, but it wasn't that hard.  Provide birth certificates, marriage certificates, medical records and apply.

Firm


did you marry her in the US or outside the US. My understanding is if you marry outside the US its a lot faster, guess marrying within the US is suspect or something.. The people I knew doing this married in the US and if what they told me is true, they were at the 4 year mark. I am sure the screw ups and lost paperwork made that a longer process for them.. but they didnt use a lawyer, they used a less expensive counsellor..

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/20/2011 2:58:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		a relative of mine married a foreign guy and it didn't take 5 years for him to get residency. they couldn't afford a lawyer and handled it all themselves. and they got married in the US.

okay, so this one hero might be illegal, but so was Eleazar Rangel-Ochoa, who ran a red light and killed a 4 year old girl here in Omaha.

so maybe they cancel each other out.

i think illegal immigration is wrong. one guy doing a good deed doesn't change that. maybe the immigration process needs some tweaking, but to just flat out disregard the law because "it's complicated," when i personally know several people who weren't rich AND who pulled it off? give me a break.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/20/2011 7:07:12 AM   
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did you marry her in the US or outside the US. My understanding is if you marry outside the US its a lot faster, guess marrying within the US is suspect or something.. The people I knew doing this married in the US and if what they told me is true, they were at the 4 year mark. I am sure the screw ups and lost paperwork made that a longer process for them.. but they didnt use a lawyer, they used a less expensive counsellor..

We married in Denmark, and applied at the US consulate in Germany.

I did all of the paperwork. Didn't use a lawyer or counselor.

At the time, I understood that it would have been easier and quicker if we had married in the US, instead of Denmark, but this was all more than 20 years ago.

Although, at the time, my parents were trying to get immigration status on a young Nicaraguan girl that they had adopted and were trying to bring into the US.  THAT was a nightmare, and took them a long time.

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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/20/2011 7:13:58 AM   
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RE: Those damn stinking useless illegals. - 8/20/2011 7:31:01 AM   
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did you marry her in the US or outside the US. My understanding is if you marry outside the US its a lot faster, guess marrying within the US is suspect or something.. The people I knew doing this married in the US and if what they told me is true, they were at the 4 year mark. I am sure the screw ups and lost paperwork made that a longer process for them.. but they didnt use a lawyer, they used a less expensive counsellor..

We married in Denmark, and applied at the US consulate in Germany.

I did all of the paperwork. Didn't use a lawyer or counselor.

At the time, I understood that it would have been easier and quicker if we had married in the US, instead of Denmark, but this was all more than 20 years ago.

Although, at the time, my parents were trying to get immigration status on a young Nicaraguan girl that they had adopted and were trying to bring into the US.  THAT was a nightmare, and took them a long time.

Firm


hmm, yeah, i think things have changed a lot since then, I think 9/11 changed a lot of things. I sorta wonder if maybe cuz if someone is Hispanic, if their application keep getting pushed down to the bottom... I dunno..
sounds like the system needs total revamping and the rules modernized a tad..

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