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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

You have a debt you neither made nor voted for.  That is slavery.

He has a debt that the people whom he elected to act as his proxy voted for.  Its how the system was designed to work. Now, is his vote by proxy being honored?  If not, that's a different matter needing a different fix.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I think I would rather deal with religious than being a slave to the gubafia.

Six of one, half dozen of the other.  Vatican vs White House, all the same to me.  But by all means, if you prefer the Vatican, go right ahead.  I won't be joining you.

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LEGISLATIVE REFERENCE BUREAU DATABASE OF

2009−10 WISCONSIN STATUTES & ANNOTATIONS

Updated through 2011 Wisconsin Act 39 and July 25, 2011.



CHAPTER 1

SOVEREIGNTY AND JURISDICTION OF THE STATE






1.01 State sovereignty and jurisdiction.

The sovereignty and jurisdiction:

of this state extend to all places within the boundaries declared in article II of the

constitution, subject only to such rights of jurisdiction as have been or shall be

acquired by the United States over any places therein; and the governor, and all

subordinate officers of the state, shall maintain and defend its sovereignty

and jurisdiction.

Now I didnt hear PEOPLE in there anywhere, see anything about protecting the people do you?

The only thing I see is protecting themselves and they assigned themselves sovereign over the people which is the SAME STATUS AS KING with no authority to do so!


1.09 Seat of government.

Be it enacted by the council and house of representatives of the territory of

Wisconsin, that the seat of government of the territory of Wisconsin,

be and the same is located and established at the town of Madison

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/Stat0001.pdf

I will ask this audience the same question I asked the states attorneys; that since the seat of gubafia is in the territory what the fuck is the state.

they danced around quite nicely with that question :)

Firm you listening?

Be aware I am not asking because I do not know the answer I am asking because I do know the answer and if you want to run with the conventional wisdom no one will get it right nbecause it goes direct to the law and there is no one here who has been taught how that can apply and what it means but muah!

I welcome educated comment however.  the fuckers making law around here pretended not know.

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Equality; inherent rights.

SECTION 1. [As amended Nov.
1982 and April 1986] All people are born equally free and independent,
and have certain inherent rights; among these are life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness; to secure these rights, governments
are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent
of the governed.

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SECTION 18. [As amended Nov. 1982]
The right of every person to worship Almighty God according
to the dictates of conscience shall never be infringed; nor shall
any person be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of
worship, or to maintain any ministry, without consent; nor shall
any control of, or interference with, the rights of conscience be
permitted, or any preference be given by law to any religious
establishments or modes of worship; nor shall any money be
drawn from the treasury for the benefit of religious societies, or
religious or theological seminaries.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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I guess this means old Firm is finally going to stop pretending he's ever been anything but a partisan hack who insults anyone who calls him on his bull shit.

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You do make a good point, but Clause One reads: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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You do make a good point, but Clause One reads: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

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what is an "exexcutor" for 300?

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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You do make a good point, but Clause One reads: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

The pronoun "he" is used when the gender of the person referred to is uncertain or unspecified. That is the way the language works, understanding that will go a long way towards making your life easier.

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It was not a universal pronoun.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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You do make a good point, but Clause One reads: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

The pronoun "he" is used when the gender of the person referred to is uncertain or unspecified. That is the way the language works, understanding that will go a long way towards making your life easier.

Arpig, you may have missed it, but the point was that it is ONLY in reference to the president that a gendered pronoun is used.

As far as the "it is the way the language works," that argument really does not work. At the time the pronoun "he" in the Constitution really meant a male. It was not a universal pronoun.

As an example of this, you are aware that some women did in fact have the right to vote before this Constitution, yes? And this document removed that right.

However, the whole thing is as silly as the OPs argument, which is what I was trying to show.

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Declaration of Independence

Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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what is an "exexcutor" for 300?

An incorrectly spelled word? Pay up.