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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 6:15:46 AM   
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"Aww, if you saw so... "

No-one will ever take me away from you P

Very touching indeed, and corrected for typos.


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That issue, as trivial as it really is, has completely ovrshadowed anything in the way of TV or video I have seen online. It is all bullshit, period. I don't believe a fucking frame of it. Oh, and that one frame of EAT POPCORN, I have a Sony VCR that can put that in ANY videotape, even a prerecorded one. Yup, VCRs were $99, but not mine. Got the SLV920 with a remote from a 900 or something, and a NV8500, and you wouldn't believe how I tried to get the NV8950, god damn that thing was the rock. I offered the dude $800 for it and he turned me down flat. It came from channel eight here in town. I know it was professionally maintained.

You would be a stupid mutherfucker to offer that much, and he's an even stupider mutherfucker for not accepting it for a once highend but now 30 year old decrepit VHfuckingS deck. If you want a decent analogue deck with no fancy processing then pay that for a two-ton Betacam SP deck or half that for an even better quality but largely unsupported Panasonic MII.

Yeah and you had a Sony with a flying erase head that could insert content!!! Big deal, loads of high end decks had those.

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Of course you never try to chromakey off a tape, or anything actually, why bother anyway ?

But if anyone thinks ANYTHING on TV is real, you should've been around my little cousins and shit when they were eight years old becausde they knew better back then. EVERYTHING IS FAKE, DO YOU UNDERFUCKINGSTAND ?

And what about blacklighting back in the B&W film days ? And it worked on still film too. Greatgrandma might not have been standing on top of Mount Rushmore.

No shit.

Termy get some pot quick! Seems you think clearer on the shit buddy cause I'm pretty sure the film of your Great Grandma on top of Mount Rushmore didn't feature as factual content on Fox or any other news programme for that matter.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 9:00:27 AM   
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^ that poster was just yanking your chain.   A drama queen.

I find the relationship the two of you have rather touching...


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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 9:41:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		"You would be a stupid mutherfucker to offer that much, and he's an even stupider mutherfucker for not accepting it "

Not back then. Plus I had money and didn't care. The 8950 has MV heads. Know what that means ? The technology impressed me, fuck money. What's more it, while not discrete component, wasn't really LSI. A shitload of boards with 4000, 7400 and all that ICs all over the place in the servo circuit. If I couldn't get a print I could reverse engineer it. I wanted it.

Unfortunately all I did was do the maintenance on it, but I took my time. The waveforms going to the head vanes were quite interesting in the non-standard speed modes. They also reached 300 volts P-P.

Fuck yeah, $800 ? Back then I could spend that partying for a weekend. What's more, the thing doesn't even record and was limited to SP playback only ! But with two heads it put out a legally broadcastable video signal at any speed.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 2:13:47 PM   
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"You would be a stupid mutherfucker to offer that much, and he's an even stupider mutherfucker for not accepting it "

Not back then. Plus I had money and didn't care.

When was that, if it was two decades ago the price would be semi-justified. You sounded like it was more recently. I saw one a few years back for €60. It was it or a similar model.

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The 8950 has MV heads. Know what that means ? The technology impressed me, fuck money.

I don't but manufacturers had all sorts of fancy names for their tape heads. It was a deck around in the early 80's if I remember rightly, and a specialist design to do slow motion work (perhaps it had a TBC) but heads would have improved massively by the early 90's. Heads changed a lot regardless of price. Don't agree? Just compare a top end semi-pro Panasonic S-VHS deck from the early 90's to a mid-priced JVC S-VHS deck from the end of that decade. The latter has a very tinny build but other than that there's no comparison.

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Fuck yeah, $800 ? What's more, the thing doesn't even record and was limited to SP playback only ! But with two heads it put out a legally broadcastable video signal at any speed.

It did record if its the Panasonic model I remember correctly but would have only had SP speed in those early days. It would have only been acceptable to broadcast if the signal was modified either internally or externally with another box. That would make it broadcast standard but not "broadcast quality" unlike say in those days Betacam SP, Type C etc.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 3:05:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was only standard VHS. The cool thing about it was the MV heads. They actually move up and down to follow the tracks on the tape at non standard speeds. I was impessed by the technology at the time. It's not so much that they made the heads move, but just what waveform do you feed them ? How do you figure out this waveform ?

That's an analog computer, that's why I wanted it.

And it was just about twenty years ago.

Another neat thing about it was you could get it to play an EP tape - just set it to 1/3 speed :-) them heads would be movin'

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 4:11:55 PM   
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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 4:29:24 PM   
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Pssss....Anaxagoras....just ignore him. It's a waste of time to attempt to debate with someone who believes he's right all the time, regardless of how seldom that is true. ;) Just put him on ignore as I've done and it will all be good! :D


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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 5:18:42 PM   
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^ that poster was just yanking your chain.   A drama queen.

I find the relationship the two of you have rather touching...

WRONG

Well OK, I'll take your word for it! However, the question follows: if its not a "rather touching" relationship then I hope its not abusive?

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 6:01:50 PM   
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It was only standard VHS. The cool thing about it was the MV heads. They actually move up and down to follow the tracks on the tape at non standard speeds. I was impessed by the technology at the time. It's not so much that they made the heads move, but just what waveform do you feed them ? How do you figure out this waveform ?

That's an analog computer, that's why I wanted it.

The MV heads sound like piezo heads I read about a while back. The video heads were mounted on piezo-electric elements and move slightly when voltage was applied to them in a sort of feedback system where the output of the heads is monitored and adjusted to optimum outpit. They were used on the later decks for the Philips Video 2000 system which was a high cost format that failed, and commonly in pro equipment. It could do noiseless still, slow mo and high speed.

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And it was just about twenty years ago.

Another neat thing about it was you could get it to play an EP tape - just set it to 1/3 speed :-) them heads would be movin'

It sounds like it was an excellent deck in its day but by the early 1990's was long in the tooth. In those days your could have gone for a high-end domestic/semi-pro machine like the Mitsubishi U82 which you should google. It uses piezo heads.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 8:42:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't like Mitsubitchy's style of edesign, period. I had worked on too many of them. The only video tape deck that was worth a shit in my view was a five motor. Drum, capstan, two reels and loading. Anything less was a bunch of shit designed to reduce cost. The fucking money changed, fuck all that. Five motors or bust.

You know - everyone - I am considering whether this is a hijack. The words "fakes Irene coverage" could be considered ambiguous in a way. Is it the moral and ethical problem with the the fact that they did something like this or is it about the methods used and understanding them ? I can usually detect a chroma key with one eye tied behind my back, while eating and burning a joint. But I have over thirty years experience in the video field. Is it right for them to fool people this way ?

What's more new tchnology has brought many new "tools" to the bunch. Tools that can make you think the fucking moon landed in Kansas last week. Is it right to use such tools ?

The power of the media is great indeed, they have been called the fourth branch of government. How would we fix this problem, or, if you think there is no problem, how do we get rid of YOU ?

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 9:46:32 PM   
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I didn't like Mitsubitchy's style of edesign, period. I had worked on too many of them. The only video tape deck that was worth a shit in my view was a five motor. Drum, capstan, two reels and loading. Anything less was a bunch of shit designed to reduce cost. The fucking money changed, fuck all that. Five motors or bust.

Bullshit - you don't know every model. This is a very well regarded model that cost USD2,000 in its day which was 1990. Later on the electronics wing of the brand was sold (or so I was told) and used to sell a lot of cheap videos and TVs.

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The power of the media is great indeed, they have been called the fourth branch of government. How would we fix this problem, or, if you think there is no problem, how do we get rid of YOU ?

More tiresome Alex Jones asswipe so perhaps the question should be turned back on you Termy: how do we get rid of you? Don't like that? Then its simple, don't ask the question of others.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 10:17:04 PM   
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"Pssss....Anaxagoras....just ignore him. It's a waste of time to attempt to debate with someone who believes he's right "

You have proven nothing. And if I purport anything I don't think is right I would be a liar. Would you prefer that ? Perhaps it would make you less unconfortable. Nobody else is talking about ignoring me. Jlf may have, and I hope he did. Every time something is bropught up that he doesn't know about it is tinfoil shit to him. You all better hope I don't get a big windfall to where I can buy into this place, because believe me the rules they'll be a changin'.

"More tiresome Alex Jones asswipe so perhaps the question should be turned back on you Termy: how do we get rid of you? Don't like that? Then its simple, don't ask the question of others. "

Get rid of me, please. I might not take it lying down, or I might. My choice. But I want to tear the status quo to pieces, the rest of you seem to like it. You have no concept of what this world could be without all this shit.

Hey, you know I don't really worry about it. Listen to this :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29948706/Fleetwood%20Mac%20-%20Go%20Your%20Own%20Way%28live%29.mp3

Have a good day.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 10:41:03 PM   
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"Pssss....Anaxagoras....just ignore him. It's a waste of time to attempt to debate with someone who believes he's right "

You have proven nothing. And if I purport anything I don't think is right I would be a liar. Would you prefer that ? Perhaps it would make you less unconfortable. Nobody else is talking about ignoring me. Jlf may have, and I hope he did. Every time something is bropught up that he doesn't know about it is tinfoil shit to him. You all better hope I don't get a big windfall to where I can buy into this place, because believe me the rules they'll be a changin'.

LOL lets be blunt, all you did was give D some TV repairman jive. The problem that jif has, as I'm sure some others do also, is that pretty much all you talk about is tin foil shit even when its not in the P&R section. Have your views even if they are fucked up (and lets face it they are) but this straddling-the-fence-hinting-at-conspiracy bat/horse/bull-shit has got tired.

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"More tiresome Alex Jones asswipe so perhaps the question should be turned back on you Termy: how do we get rid of you? Don't like that? Then its simple, don't ask the question of others. "

Get rid of me, please. I might not take it lying down, or I might. My choice. But I want to tear the status quo to pieces, the rest of you seem to like it. You have no concept of what this world could be without all this shit.

If you're asking then you better take it bitch. I have some idea of what the world would be like, it would end up a lot worse.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 10:55:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		"but this straddling-the-fence-hinting-at-conspiracy bat/horse/bull-shit has got tired. "

Yes it has. Dismiss it, it is detrimental to your helth, mental that is. Your emotional well being, like that of about 70% of the population is led by faith in the system. And faith it is brother because they are failing us and lining their own pockets. All fucking day long. At least half of the people in the US know it, but they don't know enough details to fight it. They don't even know what to believe.

"If you're asking then you better take it bitch. I have some idea of what the world would be like, it would end up a lot worse."

Are you saying that the world would be worse off if people told the truth ? You need to rephrase that because I don't think that's quite what you meant. I'll be waiting for you.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 11:14:43 PM   
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"but this straddling-the-fence-hinting-at-conspiracy bat/horse/bull-shit has got tired. "

Yes it has. Dismiss it, it is detrimental to your helth, mental that is. Your emotional well being, like that of about 70% of the population is led by faith in the system. And faith it is brother because they are failing us and lining their own pockets. All fucking day long. At least half of the people in the US know it, but they don't know enough details to fight it. They don't even know what to believe.

Ah yes, your tired old "Sheeple" routine. The fact is that few people think this world is perfect. Few people are naive enough to think many in power aren't lining their pockets but that isn't the issue here. One day you may begin to understand but quite frankly I doubt it, and I can't be bothered telling you. You could only find your answers in your own way.

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"If you're asking then you better take it bitch. I have some idea of what the world would be like, it would end up a lot worse."

Are you saying that the world would be worse off if people told the truth ? You need to rephrase that because I don't think that's quite what you meant. I'll be waiting for you.

Thats a shameless piece of strawmanning. You said you wanted to tear down the status quo. Fact is plenty have done that in the past, and on virtually every occasion it ended in tragedy. Maybe there should be a poll to ask what would happen to the world if you Termy had your way? I have the feeling Termy would like to become a latter day Idi Amin. :D

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 11:19:08 PM   
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Huh ? The status quo is still here.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 11:22:03 PM   
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"You said you wanted to tear down the status quo. Fact is plenty have done that in the past"

Huh ? The status quo is still here.

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/3/2011 11:45:16 PM   
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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/4/2011 5:46:30 AM   
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Funny shit- some people!

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RE: FOX fakes Irene coverage - 9/4/2011 6:01:55 AM   
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