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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 4:34:49 PM   
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It costs nothing to have great abs. Believe it or not... I had a rippled stomach once upon a time. lol I was a dancer and worked out four hours a day. I used babies as weights and for play time and did everything I could the hard way to get the most out of it.

It is a desire to be fit, to feel good and be able to meet physical challenges. However, we are talking mostly the physical here and it doesn't matter how great or little you have going for you there, it is the mind that pushes the direction in life and the happiness found there. If you don't have that, you have very little in my book. It is the mind that will do wondrous things I cannot do for myself as much as I would like, because quite frankly, I know pretty much what I could say on a topic and would like anothers input. Physically I can take care of myself quite nicely, but when you blend a wonderful mind in a great person and you add the things I can't do for myself physically... all is amazing.

It's very sad that so much is physically based, but hey... it is the persons choice and they can do what they want. For anyone close to me and myself... there better be a lot more to it and an open mind to differences in life and people. A closed mind can be a very lonely place.

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 4:43:54 PM   
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<=== To the left, we have exhibit #6, your Honor, which shows Black 501s 


You can't fool me! Them's leather pants!!!!!! *pants pants pants* :D

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 6:42:26 PM   
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It costs nothing to have great abs.


Hmmm. Not quite. £24 a month gym membership, in my case. And not a little bit of effort, and being constantly careful about how much food and booze I slug back. Over quite a long time . . . .

If it cost nothing, then I think more men would have them.

Just saying.

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 8:19:54 PM   
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people are more informed now than they were way back then. Look at the magazine rack, there are dozens of fitness mags all lined up giving advice on how to get Peon's abs.. Gyms too, most have not been around all that long except years ago for those Shwarzenger body builder types, no 90 pound weakling would set foot in those places.. and now women sweat just as hard as the guys do.. and there is such a variety of ways to work out and new equipment... course, there is still the scalpel and lipo if all else fails..


and yet the number of morbidly obese Americans is higher than it ever was (50 years ago included) and that number is growing.
its gotten to the point where doctors had to step in and force fast food chains to post calories for their meals, not to mention include full nutritional pamphlets inside the store should a customer choose to request one.

fad diets and bogus workouts (such as what you find in men's health or men's fitness these days) are not the "cause" of guys getting washboard abs.
they are more a reflection of guys "wanting" abs like Peon's and those companies praying on those in want.

yup, there are a lot of obese people out there, thats why doctors invented stapled stomachs.

I went to burger king today, an extravagance I know. (bad tj!) I had a whopper junior (not the full whopper), no fries, no soda pop, no onion rings, no apple pie, no ice cream... 380 calories, thats it... The woman ahead of me, well, her little chubby kid did the ordering, large meal, with onion rings and ice cream cone... Then when i was eating, looked like a father & daughter came in, not quite sure how they each fit thru the door, i have no idea their weight, 300?, 400? pounds each,.. more?..

I looked around and thought, hmmm, i dont recall seeing nearly so many overweight and obese people 10 years ago. Not just there, in stores, etc too.

Imo, it doesnt seem to really matter to obese people what the calories are, they buy the food and amount they want to eat. Its a hard habit to break and its gonna get worse, there will be more and more obese people. It matters to me what the calories are, however.. I am the silly twit that picks up those nutritional pamphlets, i read the nutritional info on food packages, even record what i eat and totals (calories, fat, sodium, sugar, protein, etc) for the day..

To me, its not just about how i look, its how i feel, both emotionally and physically, its about how healthy i am..

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 9:09:15 PM   
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<=== To the left, we have exhibit #6, your Honor, which shows Black 501s 

You can't fool me! Them's leather pants!!!!!! *pants pants pants* :D

Well, what you are seeing what's shining is the chaps worn over them.  Look at my profile and you'll get a larger view (ahem!) and can see the zippers up the legs, leading to the 501's.

// Lance runs off to check "Who  is viewing me" //

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/4/2011 9:44:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
<=== To the left, we have exhibit #6, your Honor, which shows Black 501s 

You can't fool me! Them's leather pants!!!!!! *pants pants pants* :D

Well, what you are seeing what's shining is the chaps worn over them.  Look at my profile and you'll get a larger view (ahem!) and can see the zippers up the legs, leading to the 501's.

// Lance runs off to check "Who  is viewing me" //


*LOL*

Uhm...zippers? I dunno. I think I need more evidence of this. Got other pics? :D

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:01:01 PM   
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<snipped>
Uhm...zippers? I dunno. I think I need more evidence of this. Got other pics? :D

Still haven't got that pic "thingie" down.

ETA: I'll try again.....

< Message edited by LanceHughes -- 9/5/2011 9:05:38 PM >


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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:27:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
<=== To the left, we have exhibit #6, your Honor, which shows Black 501s 

You can't fool me! Them's leather pants!!!!!! *pants pants pants* :D

Well, what you are seeing what's shining is the chaps worn over them.  Look at my profile and you'll get a larger view (ahem!) and can see the zippers up the legs, leading to the 501's.

// Lance runs off to check "Who  is viewing me" //

*LOL*

Uhm...zippers? I dunno. I think I need more evidence of this. Got other pics? :D

You bet I've got other pics! 



Obviously, same photo shoot session as avatar, no?

Chaps, zippers, 501s with buttons clearly shown.... yeah, the buttons are there, just look above the dick.  LOL!

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:30:20 PM   
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OMG! I soooo didn't expect that! Screw the button up and zippers! 

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:38:27 PM   
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It always amazed me how eager some males are to be desired by women. Its a gender role reversal. What do you think drives this behavior?

EDITED: no diminutive implied.

To stay on topic, I've quoted OP..... I'm a gay man showing his stuff to straight women.  Am I "eager to be desired"?  I don't think so.  Simply vain.  I like the fact that I've "held up."  Ties into peon having abs.


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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:44:13 PM   
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OMG! I soooo didn't expect that! Screw the button up and zippers! 

I think I understand your idiom, but just to be perfectly clear, Lance will be the one doing the screwing!

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:47:52 PM   
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ROFL!!!

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:50:41 PM   
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Holy shit, Lance.  You're hot and all, but if you wave that thing in My face again, we're going to have a whole new discussion about cbt.

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:55:03 PM   
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Holy shit, Lance.  You're hot and all, but if you wave that thing in My face again, we're going to have a whole new discussion about cbt.


It's all my fault LadyPact, I asked for it! :D

Perhaps I deserve a spankin'....with a paddle or a crop or the implement of your choosing. *grin*

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 9:56:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
<=== To the left, we have exhibit #6, your Honor, which shows Black 501s 

You can't fool me! Them's leather pants!!!!!! *pants pants pants* :D

Well, what you are seeing what's shining is the chaps worn over them.  Look at my profile and you'll get a larger view (ahem!) and can see the zippers up the legs, leading to the 501's.

// Lance runs off to check "Who  is viewing me" //

*LOL*

Uhm...zippers? I dunno. I think I need more evidence of this. Got other pics? :D

You bet I've got other pics! 

Obviously, same photo shoot session as avatar, no?

Chaps, zippers, 501s with buttons clearly shown.... yeah, the buttons are there, just look above the dick.  LOL!


I, uh, think I see the buttons. I may need a closer look. :P


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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 10:00:35 PM   
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Holy shit, Lance.  You're hot and all, but if you wave that thing in My face again, we're going to have a whole new discussion about cbt.

Er..... um..... I'm not clear at all what you mean.
Exactly what did you want me to tell you about CBT, m'dear? LOL! 

Actually, the scrotum is the result of years of (mis-named ) "ball stretching."

Just gave a 45 minute CBT lecture at the local bath-house.  Haven't un-packed the toy bag yet, so it would be easy for me to get you some pictures if that's what you need to know.

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 10:03:33 PM   
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I, uh, think I see the buttons. I may need a closer look. :P

I see Wolf2Bear in the rafters.  He has had a "closer look."  Might be able to advise you on proportions, speed of recovery, things like that.

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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 10:13:35 PM   
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Holy shit, Lance.  You're hot and all, but if you wave that thing in My face again, we're going to have a whole new discussion about cbt.


I respectfully ask to be allowed to observe?  lol


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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 10:14:43 PM   
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<snipped>
I, uh, think I see the buttons. I may need a closer look. :P

I see Wolf2Bear in the rafters.  He has had a "closer look."  Might be able to advise you on proportions, speed of recovery, things like that.


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RE: Gender Roles - 9/5/2011 10:22:51 PM   
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Holy shit, Lance.  You're hot and all, but if you wave that thing in My face again, we're going to have a whole new discussion about cbt.

I respectfully ask to be allowed to observe?  lol

Nope.  No oserving for you.  What I have in mind is that while I'm instructing LP in CBT, you get to be the demo bottom. Hehehehehe! <insert VERY LARGE evil grin here>  

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