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So Religious Nuts, help me understand your craziness... - 9/3/2011 5:42:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		If abortion is murder, and a doctor and mother conspire to and commit murder, why wouldn't you want both of them executed for their crime of murder?



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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 6:13:36 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 6:29:36 PM   
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If abortion is murder, and a doctor and mother conspire to and commit murder, why wouldn't you want both of them executed for their crime of murder?



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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 8:34:02 PM   
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You calling someone a "religious nut" belongs in the Humor section.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 8:36:50 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:13:12 PM   
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We are changing the term 'abortion' to 'honor killing?'

Or are we going to stone the fetus?

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:22:52 PM   
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If abortion is murder, and a doctor and mother conspire to and commit murder, why wouldn't you want both of them executed for their crime of murder?


You are writing to tree fetuses, insinuating that they worship in some fashion, and, asking them about why they don't want to murder humans, and, yet, your general tone is as if you believe you are the sane one on this thread. Hmm ...

I think abortion is murder. I think the mother and the doctor, and the society that raised them, all conspire to commit a murder, whether they believe that is what they are doing or no. I believe that it should be illegal, but, I do not believe they should be murdered, because, murder is wrong.

However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor, then dragged the woman off and kept her hostage, a well fed and well cared for hostage, until the baby was born and then kept the baby, I think he shouldn't be labeled a criminal for being a caring father who is protecting his own child, either.

I don't believe there is a valid excuse to abort a living baby, nor is there one for creating many fertilized eggs and then after they are fertilized throwing them in the trash. It is all purely evil. However, no one learns by dying. I don't want people to die. I want them to be better people.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:28:52 PM   
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Christian Sharia Law?

We are changing the term 'abortion' to 'honor killing?'

Or are we going to stone the fetus?


The Christian-Taliban wants the doctors put to death.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:31:06 PM   
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However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor


The bolded part is a criminal act in itself.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:35:30 PM   
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If abortion is murder, and a doctor and mother conspire to and commit murder, why wouldn't you want both of them executed for their crime of murder?


I think abortion is murder. I think the mother and the doctor, and the society that raised them, all conspire to commit a murder, whether they believe that is what they are doing or no. I believe that it should be illegal, but, I do not believe they should be murdered, because, murder is wrong.


I suppose that if you're consistent in your opposition to the death penalty under all conditions, ( i.e.: You REALLY think that baby rapists should live in the same world as you and I ) then that's a pretty brave moral stance to put yourself in. I mean, you then think that Osama Bin Ladin should have been arrested. And Saddam Hussein. Like I said. That's a pretty brave position to take...

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However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor, then dragged the woman off and kept her hostage, a well fed and well cared for hostage, until the baby was born and then kept the baby, I think he shouldn't be labeled a criminal for being a caring father who is protecting his own child, either.


So, while you oppose the death penalty, you do believe that treating woman as chattel slaves in real life is ok.

Fascinating. Should they be hobbled if they try to escape?

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I don't believe there is a valid excuse to abort a living baby, nor is there one for creating many fertilized eggs and then after they are fertilized throwing them in the trash. It is all purely evil. However, no one learns by dying. I don't want people to die. I want them to be better people.


Well, what about a 27-year-old woman who was 11 weeks pregnant with her fifth child. The pregnancy was causing severe health problems for the woman, who suffers from pulmonary hypertension, and her doctors told her that if she continued with the pregnancy, her risk of death was close to 100 percent -- and the baby would die as well?

Isn't that a valid excuse?

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:37:01 PM   
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And you are welcome to your beliefs. You are not welcome to impose your beliefs about this topic on others.

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However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor


The bolded part is a criminal act in itself.


Remember what I said about the Christian-Taliban wanting to put doctors to death?

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:37:23 PM   
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However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor, then dragged the woman off and kept her hostage, a well fed and well cared for hostage, until the baby was born and then kept the baby, I think he shouldn't be labeled a criminal for being a caring father who is protecting his own child, either.


He wouldn't be a criminal for protecting his child, he would be a criminal for kidnapping and holding an individual against their will. (Edited to add) Oh and for the reason Tazzy mentioned as well.

I have a question for you: will you have another profile a couple of days from now and abandon this one (instead of removing it) as you have done many, many times in the past?

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:38:59 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:41:26 PM   
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Well, what about a 27-year-old woman who was 11 weeks pregnant with her fifth child. The pregnancy was causing severe health problems for the woman, who suffers from pulmonary hypertension, and her doctors told her that if she continued with the pregnancy, her risk of death was close to 100 percent -- and the baby would die as well?


If the mother chose that option, to her its a valid excuse and I wont question it.

When birth control is 100% effective and we still have women getting pregnant ,,, then my position may change.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:43:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

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However, if the father rushed into the room and beat up the doctor, then dragged the woman off and kept her hostage, a well fed and well cared for hostage, until the baby was born and then kept the baby, I think he shouldn't be labeled a criminal for being a caring father who is protecting his own child, either.


He wouldn't be a criminal for protecting his child, he would be a criminal for kidnapping and holding an individual against their will. (Edited to add) Oh and for the reason Tazzy mentioned as well.

I have a question for you: will you have another profile a couple of days from now and abandon this one (instead of removing it) as you have done many, many times in the past?


Continuing this thought. What real evidence that this guy even IS the father of this baby? I mean. You know. Sometimes a person's memory ain't all that great, or they miscount on the calendar or whatever....

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:46:12 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 9:51:24 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 10:12:37 PM   
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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 10:15:06 PM   
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So... you wish to understand another's outlook on life and sense of right and wrong? Then you need to walk in their shoes! For to do any less would only be idle speculation and as such only based on your own preconceived ideologies developed from a platform totally skewed from the one you are evaluating.

I have walked upon many paths as an observer... and I do not follow nor support any religion in itself... rather I encourage and support individuals whom I believe to be honorable in the pathways they have chosen to walk. So I allow... even encourage people of faith to write within the pages of my paper so they may teach the basic wisdoms they have to offer.

Yes, I know that faith makes many all too blind to the depths that help to reveal truth... but as I have yet to meet a man capable of recognizing even an aspect of truth in an unbiased manner I like the idea that there is a restraining and guiding force that helps him to survive his journey in spite of his inherent weaknesses. Many religions do just that… act as a guidebook to the journey of life.

I have noticed that there are many who like to criticize others and even feel compelled to stop others from living as they believe they should. While in some cases this has some merit as in stopping the Islamic extremists from blowing up another building or from taking over the world and making slaves of us all as is their teachings... There are all too many within our country who wish to change the lives of others… insisting that they live within only the “politically accepted” perspective and these people are actively attempting to do away with the inherent values and beliefs that made our nation great. They refuse to allow others their own beliefs and values. There are always extremists in any group... but within the group known as liberals there are far too many who seem to justify any and all of their own actions by any means they can prescribe to... even when there is no honor in what they say and do… and especially in the way they behave. They feel and act superior to any who walk a different path while claiming to be the supporters of different paths.... an oxymoron I do believe.

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RE: So Religious Nuts, help me understand your crazines... - 9/3/2011 10:25:18 PM   
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There are always extremists in any group... but within the group known as liberals...

>blink<

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