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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:48:40 AM   
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So i did a search of your posts there Awareness and Yeah, you really sound like someone with a sandy vag. I dont think of the posts i actually looked at you had one positive thing to say. Is there a reason for this? Are you republican? At least that would make sense.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:49:27 AM   
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No I am pretty sure I understand you to a tee, you're practically a case study.


Oh is somebody going to put that Introduction To Psychology credit to use?  Let me stop you there, sunshine!

How about a case study on, "groupthink?"  This topic is the perfect example of that.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:51:23 AM   
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I am a newbie and I'm not discouraged, even when my first attempt at a thread was whupped up and down for daring to misuse the word "queer". Nor am I discouraged by your bilious posts attacking anything and everything estrogen. It's to be expected really. However, do note that any female who came on here and saw your diatribes would be very inclined to leave.

Oh, and just for your information, I am 20, not 18. And adults have been taking me seriously since I was around 17, so it's really not much of a thrill anymore, though I do admit it was when it first happened.

And you can protest all you want, I have you pegged. You know it, I know it, and so does everybody else. One doesn't have to be sexually attracted to something to understand it, or are you implying something about zoologists?

Here's an idea, instead of whining, why don't you do something about it? Lift the place out of the gutter, or are you like Boris, and relying on those ditzy girls to do it for you? Get off your manly ass and DO something other than bitch. Stop posting your hate-filled anti-women posts and contribute something worthwhile. Start a thread for God's sake.

What is it with you self-proclaimed dominants? All wringing your hands waiting for somebody to rescue you. I thought that dominants were supposed to be doers, guess I was wrong.

There you go Boris, I just learned something from the boards. Dominant men are a bunch of whiners who just complain about things until some clueless ditzy slip of a girl comes along and fixes things for them. Real impressive.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:00:47 AM   
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  No, you just sound like what you are.  Young, inexperienced and arrogant.  It's to be expected, but I thought you might have learned a few things while you were here.  Oh well.

Like I said, talk to me in ten years.  At least then you'll have an appreciation for how much you don't know.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:02:27 AM   
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How about a case study on, "groupthink?"  This topic is the perfect example of that.
Groupthink? because I am agreeing with you and telling you to get off your ass and start walking the walk?

I'm still waiting for you to link some of those insightful and fascinating threads you started.
Look Boris, I know you're basically a total newb, but so are Heather, Cheri and I, but somehow we can deal with not knowing things and asking questions and starting threads.

I asked you before, what have you contributed? That goes for Awareness as well, what have you contributed other than bitching about things?

You want a better board? Then make a better one, we're already doing our bit, we're trying, and yet somehow we are the mindless drones and fools and children.

So, tell me you two, is there anything to you guys? Are there any real balls there, or are you just empty windbags without the intestinal fortitude to actually make an effort to make things work better?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:05:59 AM   
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It's to be expected, but I thought you might have learned a few things while you were here.  Oh well.
Oh I have learned a lot in the two months I've been here, I've learned a few things tonight as well, none of them at all favourable to you or Boris, but lessons learned all the same.

Now what do you plan to do to make the boards a better place, other than complain that its a cunt-fest?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:24:20 AM   
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Groupthink? because I am agreeing with you and telling you to get off your ass and start walking the walk?


Groupthink because you sound like a broken record by repeating what pretty much everybody else has said.  You have been given reasons from me as to why, yet for whatever reason your brain is unable to comprehend it.  I don't know if I need to put it into visual form for you to better understand. 

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I'm still waiting for you to link some of those insightful and fascinating threads you started.


I'll make a topic about my living conditions!  That is so fascinating because everybody wants to know how I live!  It's like MTV Cribs BUT WITH LESBIANS!  Roflmao!! 

Or maybe I'll make a topic about guys gagging at the thought of cock!  That won't be a hornets nest!  Tee-hee!  *Flutters eyelashes*

An even better topic!  Here's one that asks people that are gay why they ever have had sex with the opposite gender which logically defeats the purpose of being gay but oh well!  Asian emoticon!  ^^

If my sarcasm didn't shine enough, what I'm saying is that your topics were hardly fascinating and held nothing interesting.  Your "living conditions" one was just a big, "You go girl" brofist pump by every She-Ra in Castle Greyskull here (yes, I just did a He-Man reference, wanna fight?). 

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I asked you before, what have you contributed?


I contributed the following:

-The fact the cliques here are retarded.
-The BDSM forums suck.
-The moderation is inconsistent and exploited.
-The general regular population frighten off any newcomer with their anti-social personalities.

I'd love to stop playing ramrod, but I'm not seeing much reason to. 

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Then make a better one, we're already doing our bit, we're trying, and yet somehow we are the mindless drones and fools and children.


Because, silly girl, my main issue in the lack of quality is because the older members such as LadyPact are stuck in the prehistoric age and refuse to offer much information simply because, "they don't feel obligated/want to."  The newbies like you and I can ask as much as we'd like, but what she basically said was, "Maybe if I'm having a good day and you give me the textual equivalent of foot worship."  I say fuck that. 




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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:42:34 AM   
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Oh I have learned a lot in the two months I've been here, I've learned a few things tonight as well, none of them at all favourable to you or Boris, but lessons learned all the same.
  See, this is your mistake.  I don't care.  Really.  All your insults, all your opinions on me simply do not matter one iota.  You've done nothing, demonstrated no attributes, which have earned you any respect whatsoever.  You've lived so long in a social bubble you have no idea what the real world is like.

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Now what do you plan to do to make the boards a better place, other than complain that its a cunt-fest?
  What exactly do you plan to do except conduct rabid defence of your fellow clique members and rail against anyone who doesn't play into the mutual ego-stroking love-fest which forms a large proportion of the interaction amongst regulars here?  I'll tell you.  Nothing.  Not a damn thing.  Because the way things are plays right into your desire for attention and you'd just hate any of that to go away, wouldn't you.

I like that you think you're so far removed from a clique of high school girls discussing Justin Bieber - it's just such a shame that your actions here have so conclusively demonstrated otherwise.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:48:04 AM   
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I just jumped into this discussion at the end. Looks like a catfight. Ill bring a waterhose and we can all have some fun.



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 1:54:28 AM   
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Groupthink because you sound like a broken record by repeating what pretty much everybody else has said.
No I haven't, I haven't said that newbs should use the search function or that they shouldn't get their questions answered. I have said they shouldn't give up, they should dive in and just push aside the unhelpful clutter.

I didn't say my threads were fascinating, I said I was trying, which is more than you do.

Your contributions? Lets take them one by one...\
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-The fact the cliques here are retarded.
The cliques are mostly in your imagination, they haven't affected me, or any of us. And cliques are part of the internet forum experience, they exist anywhere, there is nothing that can be done about them, so why cry over it, if you don't like cliques, go live in the woods because where you have people, you will have cliques. there is nothing to be done about it so just ignore it.
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The BDSM forums suck.
They pretty much do and pretty much everybody knows that. What are you going to do about it?
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The moderation is inconsistent and exploited.
I don't see it particularly, but there was a whole long thread on it a few months ago so you're not telling anybody anything they don't already know.
yes its a little hard to tell where the line is drawn at times, but that's because they are a group of people interpreting a set of guidelines, each one will rule a little differently. That's the way it is on any busy forum. So what are you going to do about it?
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The general regular population frighten off any newcomer with their anti-social personalities.
Really? And you are the first one to mention this? I'm afraid not. Besides, I wasn't frightened off, Cheri wasn't, Heather wasn't, Hannah wasn't. And Lord knows the latter two were not been given an open armed welcome, In fact you spent a bit of time on an anti Hannah & Heather campaign yourself. So what's wrong with all these other newbies that they flee? And your new found buddy Awareness is just about the most anti-social poster around, and you're not too far behind.
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Because, silly girl, my main issue in the lack of quality is because the older members such as LadyPact are stuck in the prehistoric age and refuse to offer much information simply because, "they don't feel obligated/want to."
Why are they under any obligation to do anything, if they don't want to help, just ignore them and proceed on our own, if we have to Google things ourselves and post our findings so what? That's better than your empty hair pulling routine isn't it?

You don't like the way things the way they are, but you won't do anything about it and you are trashing the few people who are agreeing with your basic premise of the place needs improving. You've had your whine, now again I ask you?

What are you going to do about it?

If you're not willing to at least try, then shut up and stand aside and let the people who are willing to make the effort try. Right now you are part of the problem.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:01:04 AM   
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What exactly do you plan to do except conduct rabid defence of your fellow clique members and rail against anyone who doesn't play into the mutual ego-stroking love-fest which forms a large proportion of the interaction amongst regulars here?  I'll tell you.  Nothing.  Not a damn thing.  Because the way things are plays right into your desire for attention and you'd just hate any of that to go away, wouldn't you.
I don't know what clique it is I am supposed to be a member of, nor who I have defended. I don't recall defending anybody, what I do recall doing is telling to shut up and DO something concrete, but no, you just flutter your hands and complain about how the evil women are oppressing you. Well guess what Cedric the complainer, that just doesn't cut it with me. Put up or shut up, start contributing or go away, start fixing the problem or get lost.

Act like the man you claim to be.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:30:02 AM   
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I don't know what clique it is I am supposed to be a member of, nor who I have defended.


You, Cheri, Heather, and Hanners of course, silly girl. Can I join?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:32:36 AM   
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What exactly do you plan to do except conduct rabid defence of your fellow clique members and rail against anyone who doesn't play into the mutual ego-stroking love-fest which forms a large proportion of the interaction amongst regulars here?  I'll tell you.  Nothing.  Not a damn thing.  Because the way things are plays right into your desire for attention and you'd just hate any of that to go away, wouldn't you.
I don't know what clique it is I am supposed to be a member of, nor who I have defended. I don't recall defending anybody, what I do recall doing is telling to shut up and DO something concrete, but no, you just flutter your hands and complain about how the evil women are oppressing you. Well guess what Cedric the complainer, that just doesn't cut it with me. Put up or shut up, start contributing or go away, start fixing the problem or get lost.

Act like the man you claim to be.



This forum is for discussing with people who are into BDSM. The goal is to share and have a small place in this planet where others can accept a person with all their flaws, fetishes and imperfections.
Different members have different views on things. Share points of view, discuss them. Tell others your arguments and how it makes you feel.

BUT

Who the hell gave you any right to tell anyone to shut up, to match YOUR expectations or leave.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:44:34 AM   
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Who the hell gave you any right to tell anyone to shut up, to match YOUR expectations or leave.
The idiot who just spent 5 pages telling her the place sucked and cutting her down because she had the gall to agree with him and challenge him to actually do something concrete about it.

Try reading the thread instead of the last page, you won't look like such an idiot.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:44:58 AM   
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No I haven't, I haven't said that newbs should use the search function or that they shouldn't get their questions answered. I have said they shouldn't give up, they should dive in and just push aside the unhelpful clutter.


"Blah, blah, blah, you're insecure/immature/egotistical.  Blah, blah, blah, do it yourself." 

Or did you suddenly forget?  But then you attempt to play some diffusing game by saying you agree with what I'm pointing out.  So you agree with what I'm saying yet as opposed to thinking of any ideas/topics/criticisms you're much more content to join the rest of the harpies that litter this site and constantly throw insults to the wind. 

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I didn't say my threads were fascinating, I said I was trying, which is more than you do.


I see that my reality check shook that glass titan in you when it came down to your topics.

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The cliques are mostly in your imagination, they haven't affected me, or any of us.


Well golly gee!  I wonder why!  It couldn't be because you pander to them, could it?!  No way! 

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And cliques are part of the internet forum experience, they exist anywhere, there is nothing that can be done about them, so why cry over it, if you don't like cliques, go live in the woods because where you have people, you will have cliques. there is nothing to be done about it so just ignore it.


"Fuck you I like my special society.  Go away and leave us alone.  Wanting BDSM discussion on a BDSM forum... the nerve!" 

This is essentially what you said.

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They pretty much do and pretty much everybody knows that. What are you going to do about it?


Oh, I'll strap my mask in my avatar on and become the Lone Ranger then!  How about actually making an effort as a collective group rather than relying on "The Great White Hope" to come and save the day?  It's a multiperson operation.  What is so hard to comprehend about this?

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I don't see it particularly, but there was a whole long thread on it a few months ago so you're not telling anybody anything they don't already know.
yes its a little hard to tell where the line is drawn at times, but that's because they are a group of people interpreting a set of guidelines, each one will rule a little differently. That's the way it is on any busy forum. So what are you going to do about it?


Oh yes, like how a person can be moderated for "hijacking" then that same mod will be participating in a "hijack" in a different topic.  Is there a guideline that says, "If you make fun of my friends you're gonna get it.  >=("  ? 

Awareness claimed that adding more males to the mix would counteract this issue of favortism.  I however, think the entire moderation squad needs to revoke their positions and give them/scout out to people that actually know how to be a neutral third party that enforces the rules.  Because the ones we have here right now are doing it wrong. 

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Really? And you are the first one to mention this? I'm afraid not. Besides, I wasn't frightened off, Cheri wasn't, Heather wasn't, Hannah wasn't. And Lord knows the latter two were not been given an open armed welcome, In fact you spent a bit of time on an anti Hannah & Heather campaign yourself. So what's wrong with all these other newbies that they flee? And your new found buddy Awareness is just about the most anti-social poster around, and you're not too far behind.


Anybody that has been keeping score so far is now going to say to themselves, "I think Susan should stop looking stupid."

Yes, the person that is openly advocating a change to meet new people that come to these forums beyond ten posts they have is anti-social.  Now you're a recent addition, so you still got some sense of this being totally new but after awhile you're going to see the same faces again and again.  Oh sure, we may have an occasional few new people but they're going to silently disappear in the coming months.  It is these people in these cliques that live in these protective barriers that restrict it for the outsiders. 

Anti Heather/Hannah campaign?  Oh, now I get it.  I'm glad to have made such an impact in your day-to-day lives and I'm entertaining myself with the visual of four lesbians sneering over to a dinky monitor at a post I made a few months ago. 

You should ask them who was defending their ingrateful asses when everybody else was tearing into them because they were the new kids on the block. 


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Why are they under any obligation to do anything, if they don't want to help, just ignore them and proceed on our own, if we have to Google things ourselves and post our findings so what? That's better than your empty hair pulling routine isn't it?


Oh shit, I guess I'm tough out of luck if I want to actually hold a conversation about something then!  Something that a discussion forum would normally provide me with! 





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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:50:27 AM   
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aaaaand this thread is completely fucked. I wish a Mod would come along and clean/lock it. Sigh.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:52:47 AM   
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aaaaand this thread is completely fucked. I wish a Mod would come along and clean/lock it. Sigh.


Does this site have Mods anymore?

Gosh.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:53:18 AM   
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Who the hell gave you any right to tell anyone to shut up, to match YOUR expectations or leave.
The idiot who just spent 5 pages telling her the place sucked and cutting her down because she had the gall to agree with him and challenge him to actually do something concrete about it.

Try reading the thread instead of the last page, you won't look like such an idiot.



"Try."

I see you tossed that word around.  We should all "Try" stuff.  Like maybe you can also "try" to make these forums look respectable once more instead of "trying" to impress a bunch of young college lesbians, ones that are old enough to be your daughter?

Hand grenade!  Take cover!


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 2:54:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Who the hell gave you any right to tell anyone to shut up, to match YOUR expectations or leave.
The idiot who just spent 5 pages telling her the place sucked and cutting her down because she had the gall to agree with him and challenge him to actually do something concrete about it.

Try reading the thread instead of the last page, you won't look like such an idiot.



1) I was born looking like I am. It's nothing going to change. Get over it.
2) Don't assume. I have spend some 30 minutes reading the entire thread.
3) Lashing out to people makes you immature in my eyes.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 3:00:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Who the hell gave you any right to tell anyone to shut up, to match YOUR expectations or leave.
The idiot who just spent 5 pages telling her the place sucked and cutting her down because she had the gall to agree with him and challenge him to actually do something concrete about it.

Try reading the thread instead of the last page, you won't look like such an idiot.



He does have a point in the earlier part of his comment in that this forum is for discussion with people who are into BDSM. The two he addressed had previously stated they were not into BDSM/kink, but just here (at CollarChat/CollarMe) to have fun.

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