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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 9:19:22 PM   
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I did my part.  I've been hammering it into all your heads for the past five or so pages "my part."  You have gotten somebody to tell you that this place reeks.  He even gave you the liberty of saying what would make it better.  Now let us see if anybody can find any sort of inspiration from that and go forward or silently murmur, "good point..." and recede back to same old status quo.  

The less time you spend bitching about how I conduct myself, the more time you could have made a rivetting discussion that would actually be interesting for once.


Do you mean the one that was actually going on about the book?  The one you still haven't even bothered to answer the girl's question?


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:22:10 PM   
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Now how about you show us the threads you've started, eh?

What was that? Speak up, I didn't hear you babe.
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Ah, that's what I thought, a lot of bluster and a insecurity. What's the matter Boris baby? Afraid you'll expose yourself as a clueless newb? Trust me if you introduce yourself as one from the get go this place is really very welcoming. Too bad you've spent the last year pretending to be a big shot, eh? Oh well a bit of crow will do you good.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:33:27 PM   
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And cliques? OMFG, you don't even begin to understand the meaning of that word till you deal with high school girls on a forum!!!
  We deal with Dommes and subs who have problems with men.  Believe me, there is absolutely no fucking difference.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:36:40 PM   
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I feel debased just for knowing you exist.
  Someone call the drama ambulance, we've got a bleeder.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:40:20 PM   
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We deal with Dommes and subs who have problems with men.  Believe me, there is absolutely no fucking difference.
And apparently we have to deal with men who have problems with women. Trust me the people on here are rank amateurs when it comes to cliquishness.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:45:37 PM   
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We deal with Dommes and subs who have problems with men.  Believe me, there is absolutely no fucking difference.
And apparently we have to deal with men who have problems with women. Trust me the people on here are rank amateurs when it comes to cliquishness.
  Some men do have problems with women, but they're hardly cloaked in legitimacy, whereas misandry is positively de rigeur in this place.



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:46:34 PM   
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I was originally going to let this topic either fade off or revert back to book discussion, but if you so incline!

I'm actually glad there have been topics being made by you/yourself/Irene (sorry, but I can't be alone in thinking the whole dual-posting resembles schizophrenia - don't get pouty it was a joke) and while it is a start it is one that is going to have to be consistent and not just by select few people.  Now I'll post a topic whenever one pops into my head and would appreciate further insight on, but let me remind you that may be quite some time seeing as due to the lack of any significant discussion that has actually moved me to bother asking over the past year I have pretty much been my own teacher.  With that said I will do my part of contribution by actually posting something of worth to other topics that I find I can be of assistance to.  Maybe even look at something I normally wouldn't care much for to "expand my horizons." 

As for your last post here, I know you got the impression I was doubting you by asking for links but I simply wanted to read what was said in those topics.  I liked what I saw, and as someone you all hold in high admiration and respect () I was impressed.

But if you want me to stop making worthwhile posts now and start going back to being a sniping asshole, it's a switch I can very easily turn on. 



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:48:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SuzeCheri
Trust me the people on here are rank amateurs when it comes to cliquishness.

*bristles*

Screw you! Our clique is every bit as good as anybody else's.

pam



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/8/2011 11:59:32 PM   
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Some men do have problems with women, but they're hardly cloaked in legitimacy, whereas misandry is positively de rigeur in this place.
Perhaps its just your perception. You are seeing what you want to see. You are a sexist, so you assume the whole world is as well, it's a common trait actually, to see one's own prejudices reflected in the actions of others. it's a difficult thing to do, to step outside of your own mental box and view the world neutrally, one tends to interpret things through one's own filters of anger/hate and so on. Cheri, for example tends to assume that everybody has some sort of homo-political agenda, because it fits her weltanschauung to be oppressed for her sexuality. You, it would seem, work the same way, only to an more extreme degree. You see gender hatred in others because it is the basis of your world view. It fits your weltanschauung to be oppressed for your gender. You both have a victim based model that you use to interpret the actions of others.

I'd say it was interesting, but unfortunately it is really so common as to be almost a stereotype.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:10:21 AM   
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  No, my perception is pretty much on point.  I understand the meta-power plays which occur in this place far better than you do and so the context in which I operate is totally different from yours.

You're a misandrist and so construct theories which feed right into that.  However you really don't have a clue where I'm concerned.  It's kind of cute that you try and explain it all in simplistic terms which fit within your experience, but that's entirely the problem.  You have neither the experience, nor the necessary perspective to even begin to understand me.  In your own way, you're still incredibly blinkered.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:12:02 AM   
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  The problem here is that Nocturnal Stalker is up against a group of elitists who've been conditioned by their experiences to form cliques and clubs designed to keep people out.  And fundamentally, their entire rationale is trying to protect that.

The position being put forward by LadyPact and others is insufferable elitism.  That all worthwhile topics have already been discussed and if anybody new wishes to discuss them, then they can just fuck right off, because the INFORMATION they require can be found using the search function.

That attitude is so appallingly ignorant when it comes to human understanding that I fully question whether the individual responsible has the insight to call themselves 'dominant'.

People inhabit a discussion forum because they seek interplay.  If someone wants information, Google will find it for them.  Very effectively.  People inhabit forums because they seek discussion with others who are like minded.  In this forum, however we find a bunch of cliquey self-appointed oligarchs who think they have the right to dictate what people discuss in these forums and how they discuss it.

Get the fuck over yourselves.

You - yes, even you - Lord Mysterio WankerTrousers and Lady AllMenWorshipMe were once newbies.  You - yes, you - were probably welcomed into forums much like these or real life groups in which people were actually friendly and didn't scream "Use the search function".  Tell me LadyPact - since you're so fond of promoting munch groups - how often does someone ask you a question in real life and you scream "Google it"  or "Read a book!" at them?  Tell me, inquiring minds want to know.  I want to know if you're as rude and arrogant in real life as you present yourself on this forum.

Here's a guide for all you old-timers who are so distressed when a newbie asks a question.  For you people who feel your time is so fucking valuable that it's an offense for newbies to cause you to waste precious seconds reading their postings.

1)  Don't.  Fucking.  Post.

2)  Read.  Something.  Else.

Using this simple 2-step method, you can be spared the intolerable pain of having to participate in a thread which doesn't arouse your interest.  I suggest you whining maggots who make newbies feel so unwelcome consider the virtue of such an approach.  Alternatively, you could just harden the fuck up.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:23:56 AM   
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Yes dear, of course I'm a misandrist. I have to be in your model. If I'm not your house of cards starts to crumble. Just as Cheri needs you to be a homophobe for her model.

And your meta-power plays remark is also revealing. A bit of paranoia peeking it's little head out there. Again not at all uncommon. I'm going to bet you view yourself as one of the few "real" men left, the vast majority having been emasculated by feminism, which you view as some sort of gender conspiracy, aimed more at pulling men down than lifting women up.

No I am pretty sure I understand you to a tee, you're practically a case study. I may want to interview you for a paper I have to do next term.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:27:19 AM   
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In this forum, however we find a bunch of cliquey self-appointed oligarchs who think they have the right to dictate what people discuss in these forums and how they discuss it.
So ignore them if they annoy you, like any sensible adult would.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:31:38 AM   
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  Christ, it's like you've rehearsed this shit.  Occasionally you should try reading something which doesn't fall within the boundaries of your narrow world-view.

Paranoia?  Good grief girl, you understand nothing of social interaction.  Talk to me in ten years when you've gotten some experience and lost some arrogance.  I think one of the tragedies of message boards is that 18 year old twits who know nothing get a bit of adult attention and come over all a-quiver because for the first time in their lives, adults are finally taking them seriously.

If there's anybody who's a stereotype here, it's the lesbian who thinks she has a good handle on men.  Nice try though.  And for the record - no.  Your second attempt to peek into my ahead has also gone terribly wrong.

Thank you, come again!


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:34:13 AM   
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The problem here is that Nocturnal Stalker is up against a group of elitists who've been conditioned by their experiences to form cliques and clubs designed to keep people out.  And fundamentally, their entire rationale is trying to protect that.

The position being put forward by LadyPact and others is insufferable elitism.  That all worthwhile topics have already been discussed and if anybody new wishes to discuss them, then they can just fuck right off, because the INFORMATION they require can be found using the search function.

That attitude is so appallingly ignorant when it comes to human understanding that I fully question whether the individual responsible has the insight to call themselves 'dominant'.

People inhabit a discussion forum because they seek interplay.  If someone wants information, Google will find it for them.  Very effectively.  People inhabit forums because they seek discussion with others who are like minded.  In this forum, however we find a bunch of cliquey self-appointed oligarchs who think they have the right to dictate what people discuss in these forums and how they discuss it.

Get the fuck over yourselves.

You - yes, even you - Lord Mysterio WankerTrousers and Lady AllMenWorshipMe were once newbies.  You - yes, you - were probably welcomed into forums much like these or real life groups in which people were actually friendly and didn't scream "Use the search function".  Tell me LadyPact - since you're so fond of promoting munch groups - how often does someone ask you a question in real life and you scream "Google it"  or "Read a book!" at them?  Tell me, inquiring minds want to know.  I want to know if you're as rude and arrogant in real life as you present yourself on this forum.

Here's a guide for all you old-timers who are so distressed when a newbie asks a question.  For you people who feel your time is so fucking valuable that it's an offense for newbies to cause you to waste precious seconds reading their postings.

1)  Don't.  Fucking.  Post.

2)  Read.  Something.  Else.

Using this simple 2-step method, you can be spared the intolerable pain of having to participate in a thread which doesn't arouse your interest.  I suggest you whining maggots who make newbies feel so unwelcome consider the virtue of such an approach.  Alternatively, you could just harden the fuck up.



Precisely. 

To add on to what Awareness said, the cliques are more parasitic than anything.  Everybody wants to impress everybody and I knew full well that by bullheading into this I was really opening myself to being ripped to shreds but I stand by what I say because unlike many people here I only press an issue if I'm right.  You can throw around all the passive-aggressive nonsense you'd like but in the end all the "Faghags" all the "Subby Mafias" all the "VAA Charter Members" are more of a cancer than anything else.

Because, even though I'm going to actually attempt to bring something more here as opposed to "fire-and-forget" witticisms, the gambling man inside me doesn't see a favorable outcome regardless.  Maybe I'll actually be wrong. 

If the sycophants, cliques, sheep-like mentality is any indication though I'm not having much faith.  I just would like it if some members here would stop being so two-faced and come out and say, "No I like having some form of power and belonging, even if it is on the Internet."


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:34:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SuzeCheriSo ignore them if they annoy you, like any sensible adult would.
  Ah, I understand now, you're not the full quid.

The point I am making, ditzy girl, is that newbies are discouraged by the self-seeking actions of a few.  I ignore much of what goes on here and I simply have no interest in playing the various social games which occur in these forums.  My post is not for me, it's illustrating a point.

Next time, try and ensure you understand the full content of a post before replying.  It'll enhance your forum experience.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:39:53 AM   
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Ok, now as im sure its been see thus far, i like to keep it lite. Make a joke, pull on the hammer. You know do my thing, But I'm new to these forums and i havent had a single person here make me feel unwelcome. The Leztastic 4 included. (that's right you name me, i have named you HA) So im not sure where exactly this is coming from. Now, have i seen some of the people on this forum nerd rage out. And so for ive been entertained by it. But for real, people that get on here take this shit so seriously i have a 2 step process for you.

1. Hold. Power. Button.
2. Go. Fuck. Something.

I have been in this lifestyle for a long time. And one of the things that has always made me proud to be apart of this lifestyle is the genuine acceptance that most people have. We are not the norm. This lifestyle is taboo in society. Dont be like the unthinking masses.

In the end. Dont we all just want to be happy and get off?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:43:10 AM   
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  *sigh*  Dude, get your hand off your dick and stop posting bollocks just because some lesbians gave you attention.

It's pathetic crap like this which is exactly the social game-playing of which I speak.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:44:18 AM   
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As far as this whole clique argument, yes ive only been around for a min, haven't seen this yet.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/9/2011 12:45:32 AM   
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Awareness at what fucking point did you get fucked up the ass with no lube. My god dude. Is every single fucking thing you put here just shit. Srsly. are you really that angry. GET LAID. You old fucking trib.And telling me to stop pulling my dick? Do you want to pull it for me?


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