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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 2:44:25 AM   
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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 2:45:40 AM   
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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 2:48:17 AM   
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The guys here want me to be gay.

The girls here want me to be one of them.

I'm both genuinely creeped out and intrigued.


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 2:55:04 AM   
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I'm both genuinely creeped out and intrigued.



You wouldn't have it any other way. Screw the roses....i'm going to bed :)

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 3:14:14 AM   
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Well so much for discussion....

How about buy and read book, come here to ask questions? Why does it have to be either? For those who suggest live learning only, how about the book CAN teach you things that will keep you safe when you interact with people who will most likely start out as strangers unless that person is lucky enough to have a friend who is kinky?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 3:23:20 AM   
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In terms of relationship type of issues....if grown adults don't have the ability to choose partners that are healthy for them, then a book certainly isn't going to miraculously change that.



Oh, I don't know...I have a whole series of helpful books on my shelves and I have a perfectly healthy and happy relationsh......oh....wait....damn. Never mind.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 4:08:57 AM   
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"They really should update then."

That might be a bit difficult, unless it was written by someone else.   From what I understand Phil passed away a number of years ago and Molly left the lifestyle.  



http://www.mysticrose.com/mdevon.htm
If you re-read what I wrote, "From what I understand Phil passed away a number of years ago and Molly left the lifestyle. "   This information was passed on to me from the person I met Phil and Molly through.     Because this person ran in the same circle as Phil and Molly--I believed her.     Also when Phil passed away it could be that Molly may have left the lifestyle for some time.   People DO do that from time to time---leave and return.    I mean if my partner passed away and I had been with him for quite sometime---I'd back away.  



I am not certain why my post seemed to upset you; I did not post it to correct you. That was nnot my intent at all. I posted it because some folks expressed sadness over Phil's death and I thought if I could find an update, it might be nice to post that.
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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 7:37:35 AM   
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What in the holy Hell do you learn from here anyways?  Hey, I have some news you may find interesting: 

I'm 22 (no, not the delusional "22" when I'm actually 50 but the real 22) and despite any gimmicky posts I may make, I don't actually know everything.  Do I have my curiosities?  Yes.  Do I ever ask them?  No.  Why?  Look how it is usually handled.  If I learn anything, it is to not actually ask anything at all.  At least anything that may have a hint of legitimacy.  If I dare ask I may be attacked for my inquisition and attempting to use a 40-year-old's sex life for my self-pleasuring moments. 

Then what if I get the referral to go buy a book?  That's nice, it really is, but if I wanted to buy the book I would have searched for a book or made a topic asking for a book.  But I won't.  Why?  Because that is the author's point-of-view and I would rather hear from a pool of different POVs.  Otherwise you have my last post where it is so brief and streamlined that you know there are many variables to be considered.

Now you're all going to dismiss this as, "Oh there's that NS stirring the pot" and you'd be right.  However, I'm stirring the pot to actually get some sort of change going here where the "General BDSM Discussion" sub-forum is a place to share/congregate experiences as opposed to, "is putting things up my anal cavity qualify me as a gay person?"  Really?

And save these long-winded/philosophical answers to anything that actually relates or asks for them.  I know there are people like me out there that really don't care to play a round of, "Confucius Say."  I notice there are a lot of people that pride themselves on their written ability.  Prove it by saying something in three sentences what would have usually taken you four paragraphs.

I'd expand my horizon if there weren't so many clouds.

I would take what I could gain, but the collection plate is always empty.

That's how I see it.  That's why I pretty much don't care what I post anyways.  It all turns into "Social Lounge #678" in the end.

Here's three sentences or less.  You're three examples of 'all you need to know' (re: stop the activity) should be a great warning to anybody who would ever consider bottoming to you for any form of edge play.

How was that?


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 7:40:27 AM   
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The guys here want me to be gay.

The girls here want me to be one of them.

I'm both genuinely creeped out and intrigued.




I just wish you would be funny.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 7:42:24 AM   
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What in the holy Hell do you learn from here anyways?  Hey, I have some news you may find interesting: 

I'm 22 (no, not the delusional "22" when I'm actually 50 but the real 22) and despite any gimmicky posts I may make, I don't actually know everything.  Do I have my curiosities?  Yes.  Do I ever ask them?  No.  Why?  Look how it is usually handled.  If I learn anything, it is to not actually ask anything at all.  At least anything that may have a hint of legitimacy.  If I dare ask I may be attacked for my inquisition and attempting to use a 40-year-old's sex life for my self-pleasuring moments. 

Then what if I get the referral to go buy a book?  That's nice, it really is, but if I wanted to buy the book I would have searched for a book or made a topic asking for a book.  But I won't.  Why?  Because that is the author's point-of-view and I would rather hear from a pool of different POVs.  Otherwise you have my last post where it is so brief and streamlined that you know there are many variables to be considered.

Now you're all going to dismiss this as, "Oh there's that NS stirring the pot" and you'd be right.  However, I'm stirring the pot to actually get some sort of change going here where the "General BDSM Discussion" sub-forum is a place to share/congregate experiences as opposed to, "is putting things up my anal cavity qualify me as a gay person?"  Really?

And save these long-winded/philosophical answers to anything that actually relates or asks for them.  I know there are people like me out there that really don't care to play a round of, "Confucius Say."  I notice there are a lot of people that pride themselves on their written ability.  Prove it by saying something in three sentences what would have usually taken you four paragraphs.

I'd expand my horizon if there weren't so many clouds.

I would take what I could gain, but the collection plate is always empty.

That's how I see it.  That's why I pretty much don't care what I post anyways.  It all turns into "Social Lounge #678" in the end.

Here's three sentences or less.  You're three examples of 'all you need to know' (re: stop the activity) should be a great warning to anybody who would ever consider bottoming to you for any form of edge play.

How was that?




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so.. when should I mark my schedule for those margaritas?

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 12:56:47 PM   
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Here's three sentences or less. You're three examples of 'all you need to know' (re: stop the activity) should be a great warning to anybody who would ever consider bottoming to you for any form of edge play.

How was that?


I want you to go to the dollar store and get a frisbee.  Then I want you to put with a sharpie marker on it, "My Point."  Then you ask one of your lovers to go outside with you, you stand a few meters away, and instruct him to throw it over your head while making a "whoosh" noise.

Here's the point I was establishing: any newcomer that arrives here knowing very little about any activity will leave knowing just as much they did when they first came here.  Even if this newcomer sticks around and becomes somewhat known that newcomer will eventually begin to see that the more reluctance those that are supposedly more experienced at this sort of thing show the more he begins to wonder if...

A) They enjoy having a tight-knit community/keep it like "ye olde days" where BDSM was this deviant, hip, cool, underground sensation. 

B) They have as much as a clue as you do.

Granted, sometimes a legitimate question on here may be answered/discussed but it is like finding a needle in a haystack.  I just read a topic where 90% of it was about what the first poster said and had nothing to do with the original message. 

Do you know why people, "ask the same questions over and over?"  Because they are never given a definitive answer.  They're not just sock-puppet accounts that want to hear some sort of passive-aggressive/confrontational idiocy. 

But use the "Search" feature!

If this is the universal answer to everything then we may as well freeze this place since we can all find an answer from six years ago.  Nevermind that maybe six years is enough time to have gone by to offer new insights and opinions to whatever the question was. 

Look at the discussions on the first page:  some of this is from at least a couple months ago.  The stagnant air this forum breathes isn't from lack of interest.

I would say it is more a lack of initiative.  Most of the times if a topic is going to the four page mark on here I can predict that there is probably some retarded debate going on that is deviating from the original source into being "pedantic about semantics" or Ad Hominemapalooza 2011 or if we're very lucky we get some dipshit channeling the spirit of "Moralistic Maurice" to tell us a fantasy/scenario is wrong despite having two consenting adults in a private space.

Use your God-knows-how-many-years experience to actually put in something worthwhile.  Not harping on some guy for moving from India to San Francisco or whatever.




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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 2:57:38 PM   
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I want you to go to the dollar store and get a frisbee.  Then I want you to put with a sharpie marker on it, "My Point."  Then you ask one of your lovers to go outside with you, you stand a few meters away, and instruct him to throw it over your head while making a "whoosh" noise.

Since you obviously missed Mine, sure.....  Why not.

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Here's the point I was establishing: any newcomer that arrives here knowing very little about any activity will leave knowing just as much they did when they first came here.  Even if this newcomer sticks around and becomes somewhat known that newcomer will eventually begin to see that the more reluctance those that are supposedly more experienced at this sort of thing show the more he begins to wonder if...

A) They enjoy having a tight-knit community/keep it like "ye olde days" where BDSM was this deviant, hip, cool, underground sensation. 

B) They have as much as a clue as you do.

I can promise you for a fact this isn't true.  Granted, such threads aren't so much your style, so you're probably not on them much.

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Granted, sometimes a legitimate question on here may be answered/discussed but it is like finding a needle in a haystack.  I just read a topic where 90% of it was about what the first poster said and had nothing to do with the original message. 

Some threads go like that.  Others go better.  You're also skipping that part of that some folks will answer privately through email.

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Do you know why people, "ask the same questions over and over?"  Because they are never given a definitive answer.  They're not just sock-puppet accounts that want to hear some sort of passive-aggressive/confrontational idiocy.

Wrong again.

The reason the same questions get asked over and over again is because on any random day, of that 500 people who join the site over the course of twenty-four hours is that a large percentage of them are on the lower end of the experience scale.  Read the Intro section (for those who actually find it these days) to see just how many of new folks joining have some version of 'I've never done any of this' in their post. 


The folks who come here with some experience in the first place don't have to ask questions such as 'what is a munch' or 'what's the difference between a sub and a slave'.  Around the medium range of experience folks tend to ask questions such as 'what's the best way to practice needle technique' or 'what's your preferred method for dying rope'.

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But use the "Search" feature!

Absolutely.  Here's why.

A lot of folks who have been on the boards for some time have answered at least 90% of the questions that come up around here.  A good chance of which, they've answered repeatedly, in detail.  Rather than writing the same answers over and over, referring them to the past thread gives them the input.

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If this is the universal answer to everything then we may as well freeze this place since we can all find an answer from six years ago.  Nevermind that maybe six years is enough time to have gone by to offer new insights and opinions to whatever the question was. 

OK.  So where are your brilliant insights on those questions?  I haven't seen you answering any of them to do more than derail and hijack.  Exactly where were you when the gentleman put up his question about resources for learning more about electrical play or when the discussion about sounds came around?  How many threads have you made suggestions about how to tell a good quality flogger from one that's poorly made?  Where are you sharing your experiences with your submissive or how you've gotten past issues in a D/s dynamic.

Dude, heal thyself.

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Look at the discussions on the first page:  some of this is from at least a couple months ago.  The stagnant air this forum breathes isn't from lack of interest.

One of those happens to be Mine.  It was brought back up after being on the past pages for a few weeks.  Not that unusual, really, because the person who brought it back up and I have disagreed on the topic for years.

You want the boards not to be stagnant, be the change you want to see. 

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I would say it is more a lack of initiative.  Most of the times if a topic is going to the four page mark on here I can predict that there is probably some retarded debate going on that is deviating from the original source into being "pedantic about semantics" or Ad Hominemapalooza 2011 or if we're very lucky we get some dipshit channeling the spirit of "Moralistic Maurice" to tell us a fantasy/scenario is wrong despite having two consenting adults in a private space.

At this point, you're not much in the position to discuss "lack of initiative". 

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Use your God-knows-how-many-years experience to actually put in something worthwhile.  Not harping on some guy for moving from India to San Francisco or whatever.

Sure.  Where's yours?


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 3:33:17 PM   
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What in the holy Hell do you learn from here anyways?
That the crazy bitch who wanted to do all these scary weird sick things to me was only slightly crazier than the people on here, and that there were a few who were even crazier. And that most of them really are more or less OK.

I also learned that I wasn't totally crazy for actually liking it when she did these outrageous things that I dislike to me. Wrap your head around that concept, I hate most of the things she does to me, but I love having her do them to me. You think about that for a while and tell me you wouldn't seriously question your sanity if you were in my shoes. Well on here I learned I'm not the only one like that, and that the other people like me are more or less OK.

I also learned that it isn't completely crazy to want to have more than one partner, and that living with all of your partners in the same place at the same time wasn't only not crazy, it was doable. I also learned a few tips and hints about how to go about pulling that off.

I also have learned about a lot of more hands on resources; books and websites that do go into some detail of the how-to aspects of things. I have a hard core masochist to service, so those sorts of resources are a valuable thing.

I also learned that my ideas and thoughts on all this stuff are valid, more so than a lot of other people on here.

I've also learned a lot of really fun and interesting non-BDSM related things as well. Things like the fact that I'm actually a pretty decent writer, that Americans are mostly insane when it comes to their politics, how to research things on my own, and that there are decent men who do care about people for more than how they can stick their cocks into them.

So I'd say that isn't such a bad haul of learning for a few months on a discussion forum. You get out of it what you want to get out of it, it's not spoon fed to you, you have to work at it.



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 4:04:49 PM   
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I can promise you for a fact this isn't true.  Granted, such threads aren't so much your style, so you're probably not on them much


I observe them and I see patterns develop otherwise I would not have commented on it.

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Some threads go like that.  Others go better.  You're also skipping that part of that some folks will answer privately through email.


I hope you realize how flawed that is.  "Oh we have a public forum for a web of interests related to BDSM but if you want to know something you have to send a member a private mail.  Provided they know/like you enough to answer back."  I would say with the typical activity that goes on here it is more than just "some" people. 

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The reason the same questions get asked over and over again is because on any random day, of that 500 people who join the site over the course of twenty-four hours is that a large percentage of them are on the lower end of the experience scale.  Read the Intro section (for those who actually find it these days) to see just how many of new folks joining have some version of 'I've never done any of this' in their post. 


The folks who come here with some experience in the first place don't have to ask questions such as 'what is a munch' or 'what's the difference between a sub and a slave'.  Around the medium range of experience folks tend to ask questions such as 'what's the best way to practice needle technique' or 'what's your preferred method for dying rope'.


So your explanation for the repeating of questions is due to the high traffic this site generates?  I'm actually wondering how, with 500 people that on average join the site, why I only really see a handful of new posters that consistently post since I joined last December.  You would think with this much interest that the site gets there would be this gigantic influx of new people every day.  Except what happens is they may go to "Introduce Yourself" get their welcoming message from Ashjor/DarkSteven, may ask a question that no matter how experienced it may sound is 9/10 times responded to with an unfunny line and the poster gets accused of random stuff or not being good enough to actually warrant an answer. 

Want to cut down on common questions that a complete newcomer would ask?  Make an FAQ for this forum that addresses those questions.  Somebody makes a topic without reading it?  Have a moderator redirect them to that link/lock the topic.  Such a simple solution. 

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A lot of folks who have been on the boards for some time have answered at least 90% of the questions that come up around here.  A good chance of which, they've answered repeatedly, in detail.  Rather than writing the same answers over and over, referring them to the past thread gives them the input.


Here is my crazy, idealistic way of handling that:

"Hi *Poster*,

I made a very thorough message on this *particular kink* before. 

*Copy/paste of this detailed message*

If you'd like to read more thoughts on this subject, here is the original link where this discussion happened."

Not to mention thoughts, like the dictionary, are subject to change over time.  Just because I made this great post on whatever a couple years ago doesn't mean I am the arbiter of all things related. 

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So where are your brilliant insights on those questions?  I haven't seen you answering any of them to do more than derail and hijack.


I really dislike repeating myself, but as I said a couple of pages back: "despite any gimmicky posts I make, I don't know everything."

If I did know something about a subject, I would probably be criticized for my age and please do not attempt to deny that.  I used to play a lot of European football in high school, and if a Grade 9 freshman told people how to play I, as the senior, would be a bit agitated. 

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Where are you sharing your experiences with your submissive or how you've gotten past issues in a D/s dynamic.


My experiences have been strictly in bedroom/barely out of the vanilla mold.  I am not delusional enough to convince myself that I have done something completely original enough to warrant me typing something that anybody past the age of 18 would know.  I'm more interested in reading in what someone of your age/experience would have to say but it almost never comes to that point.  Instead I have people of your age calling me a homosexual/douchecanoe.  Not that I mind being called those names, but it just goes to show that some of the posters on here embarrass themselves.

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You want the boards not to be stagnant, be the change you want to see. 


Oh Heavens yes!  I will ask a question for my current relationship that would inevitably have members needing to divulge something personal and be accused of needing "wank material!" 

How about actually doing what the forums intend?  Do that and I will no longer feel inclined to hijack/derail any topic because presently it is pretty strange how "hijack/derailing" comes to when you dare oppose a regular of this site. 

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Sure.  Where's yours?


Ask me again in twenty years.  Provided there is anything to actually learn which more and more I'm beginning to doubt. 


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 4:10:07 PM   
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Most books on D/s .. SM or lesather subjects are "one true way" otherwise there wouldn't be much point... its a great book for beginners and for folks without a D/s dynamic -- its good for what it set out to do. Also, I don't remember when it was published, but it is fairly dated now -- I remember when I first read it and it seems ages ago.

Books like the Loving Dominant tend to seem one true way as well and that certainly focusses on D/s. In the end, as with all things that are varied and extremely diverse in the way people practice them -- take what works and leave the rest.

eta -- it was, at the time, one of a very few books on the subject and as such was very well received. I believe that the author has gone on to publish a lot of other books -- not necessarily authored by her.

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 4:12:07 PM   
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"They really should update then."

That might be a bit difficult, unless it was written by someone else.   From what I understand Phil passed away a number of years ago and Molly left the lifestyle.  



http://www.mysticrose.com/mdevon.htm
If you re-read what I wrote, "From what I understand Phil passed away a number of years ago and Molly left the lifestyle. "   This information was passed on to me from the person I met Phil and Molly through.     Because this person ran in the same circle as Phil and Molly--I believed her.     Also when Phil passed away it could be that Molly may have left the lifestyle for some time.   People DO do that from time to time---leave and return.    I mean if my partner passed away and I had been with him for quite sometime---I'd back away.  



I am not certain why my post seemed to upset you; I did not post it to correct you. That was nnot my intent at all. I posted it because some folks expressed sadness over Phil's death and I thought if I could find an update, it might be nice to post that.
*shrugs*
Since there was nothing other than the link---there are only two ways to assume your intention, apparently I don't have the psychic touch.  

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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 4:18:45 PM   
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I also have learned about a lot of more hands on resources; books and websites that do go into some detail of the how-to aspects of things. I have a hard core masochist to service, so those sorts of resources are a valuable thing.


You also learned that you have indirectly proven my point.

Don't see how?  Let me basically "teach" you how you were "taught" on looking into books/websites:  "Google it."


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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 6:34:44 PM   
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I observe them and I see patterns develop otherwise I would not have commented on it.

In other words, you want to complain but not do anything positive.

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I hope you realize how flawed that is.  "Oh we have a public forum for a web of interests related to BDSM but if you want to know something you have to send a member a private mail.  Provided they know/like you enough to answer back."  I would say with the typical activity that goes on here it is more than just "some" people. 

I can't say how many do it.  I know I do it for topics that are a bit more complicated.  The reason for this is that a forum isn't the best venue to attempt to go too in depth about certain types of play.  Frankly, I do trust some members of the forum to conduct their play safely because I know they are already familiar with similar types, so I don't have the same concerns.

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So your explanation for the repeating of questions is due to the high traffic this site generates?

High traffic?  No.  High turn over.  There's a difference.

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I'm actually wondering how, with 500 people that on average join the site, why I only really see a handful of new posters that consistently post since I joined last December.

The use of the forums isn't why all people join this site.  From what I've read about certain other social sites, only a small fraction of members use the forums in comparison to the total number.  Alt was a pretty good example of this.  They had forums, too, but they were rarely used.

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You would think with this much interest that the site gets there would be this gigantic influx of new people every day.  Except what happens is they may go to "Introduce Yourself" get their welcoming message from Ashjor/DarkSteven, may ask a question that no matter how experienced it may sound is 9/10 times responded to with an unfunny line and the poster gets accused of random stuff or not being good enough to actually warrant an answer. 

Out of curiosity, how many Intro threads have you responded to in hopes of making folks feel welcome around the place?

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Want to cut down on common questions that a complete newcomer would ask?  Make an FAQ for this forum that addresses those questions.  Somebody makes a topic without reading it?  Have a moderator redirect them to that link/lock the topic.  Such a simple solution.

Let Me know when you're the one willing to put the work in on that. 

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Here is my crazy, idealistic way of handling that:

"Hi *Poster*,

I made a very thorough message on this *particular kink* before. 

*Copy/paste of this detailed message*

If you'd like to read more thoughts on this subject, here is the original link where this discussion happened."

Which is basically the same thing as directing folks to the search feature, with the exception *I'm* not willing to do the research for them.  If a person says that they've used the search feature or couldn't find something flipping through the first few pages of a forum, I'm more likely to attempt to help, because they have tried a little effort on their part.

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Not to mention thoughts, like the dictionary, are subject to change over time.  Just because I made this great post on whatever a couple years ago doesn't mean I am the arbiter of all things related.

Different matter.  If I know that My thoughts have stayed the same, or I still think that a book that I've referenced is still the one that I'd go to, there's no real need for Me to add to the content of a prior post.  If other people have changed their minds on a certain kind of play (and that definitely has happened for some posters here) then they most likely wouldn't reference their prior post in the first place.

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I really dislike repeating myself, but as I said a couple of pages back: "despite any gimmicky posts I make, I don't know everything."

I think the more direct point is that you don't make contributions on the things you *do* know.  Until you start doing that, you honestly don't have a leg to stand on to complain about the way anybody else answers these boards.  Even on this thread, you haven't said anything about how you perceived the book, what parts you felt were helpful, or any reason that you might personally dislike the book.  Instead, you've been trying to give people crap about their weight or their age.

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If I did know something about a subject, I would probably be criticized for my age and please do not attempt to deny that.  I used to play a lot of European football in high school, and if a Grade 9 freshman told people how to play I, as the senior, would be a bit agitated. 

Oddly enough, there are posters on the boards that are exactly your age who don't have that problem.  The reason they don't is because of the content of their posts.

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My experiences have been strictly in bedroom/barely out of the vanilla mold.  I am not delusional enough to convince myself that I have done something completely original enough to warrant me typing something that anybody past the age of 18 would know.  I'm more interested in reading in what someone of your age/experience would have to say but it almost never comes to that point.  Instead I have people of your age calling me a homosexual/douchecanoe.  Not that I mind being called those names, but it just goes to show that some of the posters on here embarrass themselves.

Let's clear something up right now.  You have *never* seen Me say that you were homosexual.  I have said that I've seen some moments that have led Me to believe that you could bottom as well as top or take a submissive role in a dynamic rather than a Dominant one.  That's not supposed to be a bad thing.  It means I could see you exploring those ventures.

The times I've said you were a douchecanoe is most likely because you were being one at the time.  You're a little late in the game to try to convince anyone that you're all goodness and light.

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Oh Heavens yes!  I will ask a question for my current relationship that would inevitably have members needing to divulge something personal and be accused of needing "wank material!" 

If you want My opinion, I think folks can craft such thread topics so that it doesn't come across that way.  You can write.  I've seen you do it. 

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How about actually doing what the forums intend?  Do that and I will no longer feel inclined to hijack/derail any topic because presently it is pretty strange how "hijack/derailing" comes to when you dare oppose a regular of this site. 

I don't think the forums were intended to do what you seem to think they were.  I couldn't even make a projection about if a person comes along and asks people to tell them everything they know about wax play how well that would go over.  Frankly, I've got a number of posts out there on the subject, but I'm most likely not going to sit and type one reply that includes all of it.  If I was willing to put that much effort into it all in one shot, I'd just write a book Myself.

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Ask me again in twenty years.  Provided there is anything to actually learn which more and more I'm beginning to doubt.

That's your own interpretation.  You've mentioned a couple of times on this thread that there are subjects you don't know about.  Maybe you're just not looking at the bigger picture.



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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 7:15:21 PM   
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RE: Screw the Roses.... - 9/7/2011 7:17:35 PM   
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You also learned that you have indirectly proven my point.

Don't see how? Let me basically "teach" you how you were "taught" on looking into books/websites: "Google it."
No I didn't at all, if you weren't such an arrogant self-absorbed cry-baby you would be able to extrapolate. Who was it who recommended those books and websites? Experienced people who know what they are doing, that's who.

I don't have the resources to buy books on a whim off Amazon, I have to be very selective, so threads like this one was supposed to be before you decided to hijack it and make it into your personal whinefest to complain about the site and the posters here, where various people discuss a given book are very useful to me.

I was going to buy the book in question, but I don't think I will now, after reading the on-topic replies, I don't think it would be of much use to me. So the site has done something that Google couldn't, namely given me reviews of the book by experienced people who's opinions on things BDSM related I have learned to respect over a period of time, rather than customer reviews by random people who's knowledge of the subject matter I know nothing about.


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