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gorgeoushair -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 3:11:19 AM)
@ Epytropos -- [:)]

gorgeoushair -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 3:21:42 AM)
LanceHughes -- Thanks for your informative response. I shudder at the thought of those foolish people, who, if I understand you correctly, are incredibly selfish, self-centered and in dangerous denial (especially those who do not get tested) and harmful to others. In my book, the latter is unforgiveable, not to mention a crime, I believe, in most states (knowlingly having unprotected sex with another if you know you have AIDS). [:o]

gorgeoushair -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 3:33:02 AM)
@ Slavelucci -- Thanks for your response. All i can say, girl, is good luck to you, cuz you sure are living on the edge, not to mention possibly having contracted something you do not know about and passing it along to your next partner...if you care...just a thought.... [8\|]

SinzMaster -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 4:03:37 AM)
Actually some people are running around like Aids up and magically left the planet. When it's spreading way faster than before. That is mostly due to the fact that it's no longer big news in the mass media. Just a random thought.[8\|]

LadyPact -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 4:36:18 AM)
Well, for what it's worth........ I'm kind of an old chick now. I've been happily settled in poly fidelity for some time. Not that I was ever all that good at sport fucking, mind you. It just never really suited Me. If I were to take on a new addition to the home (and, yes, I admit that I've been looking at someone for that role) there will be condoms and an STD panel before we get to that stage. ~~~~ Lance, there's a part of Me that loves ya. Damn, if you didn't take Me back a few years by mentioning the "bug catchers". Maybe I'm out of the loop, but aren't we past that now? The het crowd used to call it 'suicide by sex'.

LanceHughes -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 8:51:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 <snipped> I dont think many hetros use them when going down on a woman... or use condoms when giving a bj.. They seem to percieve less risk for oral.. Well, actually the perception is correct. Seems that saliva kills the HIV virus. There has been only ONE reported case of oral transmisson for a positive dick to a negative man. And that case might be explained by oral wounds - that is, there was a transmission of virus directly into the blood stream.

slaveluci -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 10:45:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gorgeoushair @ Slavelucci -- Thanks for your response. All i can say, girl, is good luck to you, cuz you sure are living on the edge, not to mention possibly having contracted something you do not know about and passing it along to your next partner...if you care...just a thought.... [8\|] I'll take my chances and, if they decide to have sex without a condom, so will they, I suppose. To each his or her own but I find it a little insane, this obsession with protection. I'm living, healthy proof that you don't have to wrap yourself in a full body condom to keep from contracting diseases. I suppose there always is that miniscule chance that I have something I don't know about. But then there's a chance a meteor could fall out of the sky during the next five minutes and kill me too, but not likely. It's really not a matter of "luck." So, keep up the abstaining and protecting and I'll keep doing what has worked for me for well over 20 years and we'll both be happy, I suppose, right?[8\|] luci

gorgeoushair -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 12:45:37 PM)
@Kaliko -- Precicely. I am referring to the ordinary, garden variety situation where there is no established relationship, and a man is not willing to wear a condom -- with one partner or multiple partners. Just plain selfish and, worse, dangerous to others, in my opinion.

agirl -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 12:49:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveluci quote: ORIGINAL: gorgeoushair Believe it or not, there are those who are not sexually monogomous, have multiple sex partners, and do not practice safe sex. Really? This has really happened? Yeah, no kidding. I am of the belief that the world isn't going to explode if two people fuck without a layer of latex between them. There are folks in this world who...I know it's hard to believe here....are NOT disease-ridden, infested sick people. I've been fucking people I know well and many I didn't know so well for over 20 years now and I don't have AIDS, HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea or any other nasty disease. I am not, as littlewonder opines, an "idiot." I am a fun-loving, free thinking risk taker who has had alot more sex than many folks have. Clean and staying that way after 20 years. Woo hoo! I love livin' on the edge[:D][:D] luci I can't say I've been a numerous fucker.....but I've never had a sexual test in my life. Lucky escape or the balance of probabilities. I think the latter. agirl

Kaliko -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 12:49:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gorgeoushair @Kaliko -- Precicely. I am referring to the ordinary, garden variety situation where there is no established relationship, and a man is not willing to wear a condom -- with one partner or multiple partners. Just plain selfish and, worse, dangerous to others, in my opinion. Well....if a man is not willing to wear a condom and his partner is okay with that, I wouldn't say it's selfish or dangerous to others. They are both taking their risks knowingly. It takes two.

agentx20 -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 12:51:48 PM)
I wonder about this all the time - I glove-up if I'm playing with partners I don't know well . . If they don't like it, then off they go . .

NuevaVida -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 1:01:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gorgeoushair Comments? Other than your post being more of a PSA, I'm not sure your point. Telling everyone to condom-up? People will or they won't, and as has been said, it takes two. I've had unprotected sex in some circumstances and protected sex in others, I get tested regularly, and I'm ok with our sex practices. I don't really buy into the whole "If you've had sex with one person you've had sex with everyone they've slept with" notion, which I've been hearing forever. I'm having sex with Person A. If Person A is an STD carrier, then I'm at risk. If Person A is NOT carrying an STD, then whoever they've fucked in the past is of no consequence to me. Whatever fluids have entered their body are long gone by now and it really doesn't matter. Daddy has had a LOT of sex in his life, but he's not an STD carrier, so what do I care about those who came before me? I've had my own share of sex in my life, but since I'm not an STD carrier, what does he care about those who came before him?

Kaliko -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 1:18:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: gorgeoushair Comments? Other than your post being more of a PSA, I'm not sure your point. Telling everyone to condom-up? People will or they won't, and as has been said, it takes two. I've had unprotected sex in some circumstances and protected sex in others, I get tested regularly, and I'm ok with our sex practices. I don't really buy into the whole "If you've had sex with one person you've had sex with everyone they've slept with" notion, which I've been hearing forever. I'm having sex with Person A. If Person A is an STD carrier, then I'm at risk. If Person A is NOT carrying an STD, then whoever they've fucked in the past is of no consequence to me. Whatever fluids have entered their body are long gone by now and it really doesn't matter. Daddy has had a LOT of sex in his life, but he's not an STD carrier, so what do I care about those who came before me? I've had my own share of sex in my life, but since I'm not an STD carrier, what does he care about those who came before him? But isn't that kind of the point? I think the statement has more to do with people who haven't reached the stage that you are at. If you know you have no STD's, and you know your partner has no STD's, then yes, whoever both of you had relations with in the past is of no further consequence. The statement, though, has to do more with how well you think you know someone and the fact that you "know" they don't have an STD. First of all, of course, nobody "knows" that, and second, you're not only playing guessing games about the person in front of you, but about all the people that person has been with that you will never meet, and all the people that those people have been with, etc. If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue.

NuevaVida -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 1:50:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue. The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. The statement that I'm about to sleep with all their past partners is still unfactual, which is my point. I could sleep with Joe Blow Stranger, and if he's not an STD carrier, then his past partners don't matter. There's no guessing game about those people; only about Joe Blow Stranger. He's the unknown here. If he does have an STD, his past partners still won't matter to me. Joe Blow is either a carrier or he's not. He's the one I'm taking my chances with. The statement is basically saying you don't know what, if any, STD's the person has picked up along the way. It's just less dramatic to put it that way. [;)] It's not a big deal either way, I'm just not a fan of the actual statement and commented on it.

slaveluci -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 2:17:29 PM)
NuevaVida, [sm=yourock.gif] as always.......................luci

Kaliko -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 2:32:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. Okay. I see it differently. In regards to the particular statement you were referring to, I see the issue as whether you know if the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. Perhaps we're coming at it from different angles.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 2:33:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue. The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. The statement that I'm about to sleep with all their past partners is still unfactual, which is my point. I could sleep with Joe Blow Stranger, and if he's not an STD carrier, then his past partners don't matter. There's no guessing game about those people; only about Joe Blow Stranger. He's the unknown here. If he does have an STD, his past partners still won't matter to me. Joe Blow is either a carrier or he's not. He's the one I'm taking my chances with. The statement is basically saying you don't know what, if any, STD's the person has picked up along the way. It's just less dramatic to put it that way. [;)] It's not a big deal either way, I'm just not a fan of the actual statement and commented on it. Except it can be an issue. If current partner had sex with someone else and then you (example, I'm not saying you did this) before the time when an STI or HIV would show up on a test then it would be very possible for old lover to call and say "oops it appears I have X disease, better get tested". The less time between partners the more of a chance of getting that phone call from ex partner (who caught it from ex partner, who caught it from ex partner. If it were possible for STIs and HIV to show up immediately then I would be more inclined to agree but they don't.

Kaliko -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 2:37:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue. The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. The statement that I'm about to sleep with all their past partners is still unfactual, which is my point. I could sleep with Joe Blow Stranger, and if he's not an STD carrier, then his past partners don't matter. There's no guessing game about those people; only about Joe Blow Stranger. He's the unknown here. If he does have an STD, his past partners still won't matter to me. Joe Blow is either a carrier or he's not. He's the one I'm taking my chances with. The statement is basically saying you don't know what, if any, STD's the person has picked up along the way. It's just less dramatic to put it that way. [;)] It's not a big deal either way, I'm just not a fan of the actual statement and commented on it. Except it can be an issue. If current partner had sex with someone else and then you (example, I'm not saying you did this) before the time when an STI or HIV would show up on a test then it would be very possible for old lover to call and say "oops it appears I have X disease, better get tested". The less time between partners the more of a chance of getting that phone call from ex partner (who caught it from ex partner, who caught it from ex partner. If it were possible for STIs and HIV to show up immediately then I would be more inclined to agree but they don't. And that is why I am choosing to wait so long between partners. But that's more because I'm a little bit of an anxiety freak. There's probably a happy medium somewhere on the scale .... far away from where I am on it.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 3:01:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue. The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. The statement that I'm about to sleep with all their past partners is still unfactual, which is my point. I could sleep with Joe Blow Stranger, and if he's not an STD carrier, then his past partners don't matter. There's no guessing game about those people; only about Joe Blow Stranger. He's the unknown here. If he does have an STD, his past partners still won't matter to me. Joe Blow is either a carrier or he's not. He's the one I'm taking my chances with. The statement is basically saying you don't know what, if any, STD's the person has picked up along the way. It's just less dramatic to put it that way. [;)] It's not a big deal either way, I'm just not a fan of the actual statement and commented on it. Except it can be an issue. If current partner had sex with someone else and then you (example, I'm not saying you did this) before the time when an STI or HIV would show up on a test then it would be very possible for old lover to call and say "oops it appears I have X disease, better get tested". The less time between partners the more of a chance of getting that phone call from ex partner (who caught it from ex partner, who caught it from ex partner. If it were possible for STIs and HIV to show up immediately then I would be more inclined to agree but they don't. And that is why I am choosing to wait so long between partners. But that's more because I'm a little bit of an anxiety freak. There's probably a happy medium somewhere on the scale .... far away from where I am on it. What do you think is a safe waiting time? What I wrote above (sorry thought of this after posting) is what could happen if testing is relatively soon after having sex. What about those who don't get tested when they become symptomatic? To me it's not worth it so guess what. Any new partner is wearing a condom or we ain't having sex.

NuevaVida -> RE: Safe Sex -- Does Anyone NOT Practice It? (9/5/2011 3:33:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: Kaliko If you're at the point where you know your partner and you are STD-free, then yes...it's no longer an issue. The issue is whether the person you're about to have sex with is an STD carrier or not. The statement that I'm about to sleep with all their past partners is still unfactual, which is my point. I could sleep with Joe Blow Stranger, and if he's not an STD carrier, then his past partners don't matter. There's no guessing game about those people; only about Joe Blow Stranger. He's the unknown here. If he does have an STD, his past partners still won't matter to me. Joe Blow is either a carrier or he's not. He's the one I'm taking my chances with. The statement is basically saying you don't know what, if any, STD's the person has picked up along the way. It's just less dramatic to put it that way. [;)] It's not a big deal either way, I'm just not a fan of the actual statement and commented on it. Except it can be an issue. If current partner had sex with someone else and then you (example, I'm not saying you did this) before the time when an STI or HIV would show up on a test then it would be very possible for old lover to call and say "oops it appears I have X disease, better get tested". The less time between partners the more of a chance of getting that phone call from ex partner (who caught it from ex partner, who caught it from ex partner. If it were possible for STIs and HIV to show up immediately then I would be more inclined to agree but they don't. I was just commenting on the statement "Remember, anyone who has unprotected sex with a partner is not having sex with only one partner, but with all the partners that partner has ever had." because I don't like the statement's inaccuracy. I don't think I explained myself very well. I agree that STDs don't always show up immediately on tests. My doctor has told me there's a 4 month window. My point was that my concern is whether or not my potential partner is a carrier, not whether or not all his past partners are/were carriers. If he's a carrier, I'm at risk. If he's not a carrier, I'm not at risk, regardless of his past. That issue remains, regardless of whether or not I know he's a carrier. When I met the Mister, I didn't care about all the people he had slept with in the past. I cared if he was a carrier. We had both recently tested negative, and we both went forward with the educated risk.

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