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Arpig -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 1:44:36 PM)
quote: Hey AneNoz! Your use of the language gives a formal - and therefore bad - impression. Please try not to talk like a fifteenth century corpse of a noble lineage that someone somewhere dug up, okay? For what it is worth Rule, you should understand that she barely speaks English and that she usually dictates her posts in Italian to her slave Miryam who has a slightly better working knowledge of English, but that they rely on Google translate for much of what they do on here as Italian is a 2nd language to both of them as well. quote: well said, Rule blink Did I just agree with Rule? grins I never thought I'd see the day you would agree with Rule, but I am particularly amazed that you would do so when he is so completely wrong and out of line. But given the lunacy of your earlier posts on this thread I guess you have decided to join the wingnut fringe of the site. And here's another thing I never thought I would find myself saying to you either: fuck you and your ONE TWUE WAY. You reject her view of what a slave is out of hand as ridiculous, so why should she be expected to extend any further courtesy to you and your views. (This applies to Lockit, and Nanako as well). Go back and read her whole post and you'll see that she was not being outrageous or way off the wall. She said the slave owner is responsible for the upkeep of the slave and that the slave owner is free to utilise the skills of the slave for the owner's economic benefit. Now I ask you, what part of that is in any way incompatible with any definition of the words "slave" and "slave owner" that is even vaguely sensible? And her reply to Lockit was absolutely 100% correct. "Playing" at ownership is exactly what the vast majority of us do. We're playing make believe, we don't accept the full responsibility that our claim to "ownership" would entail if we weren't just pretending. I suspect that is the reason for the vehemence of the replies to her, that she pointed out that fact and has burst your little fantasy bubbles. Aneka may not have worded what she said in the approved CM manner (with the endless YMMV notices), but she at least does take her responsibility as an "owner" seriously. Which is more than I can say for the vast majority of us, myself included (but then again, that is why I have never defined myself as a Master or owner, nor have I ever really been looking for a slave).

SadisticMs2 -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 1:45:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Endivius sadisticms2 welcome to the lunacy that is the forums. If you have a thick skin and a strong wit you'll do well here. LOL I have a very thick skin, thank you :-) As for the strong wit, well, that's up to individual interpretation. But thank you for the welcome!

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 1:50:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule Hey AneNoz! Your use of the language gives a formal - and therefore bad - impression. Please try not to talk like a fifteenth century corpse of a noble lineage that someone somewhere dug up, okay? English is not her primary language, and based on where she lives, she's been taught a very formal version. If she was educated in Malta (where her profile states she is from), her English is excellent. That doesn't help with whatever issues you have with her content, but it may help with her overly formal delivery. Just saying, Chatte continuing to be ever helpful I just read Arpig's post....never mind !!

ummmmNo -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 1:54:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery You would be surprised how much time a day's domestic work will take. Stop being so cynical embittered and dismissive. And anyway six hours gratis is a sacrifice and yes it is enough. Think of all the money the Lady is saving by not having to pay someone to do this which She would otherwise have to do as She is at work during the day kevin You aren't taking into consideration that you would be COSTING HER MONEY. She would be paying for your room and board. Also, health insurance, driving insurance and life insurance? If you need a cellphone, she'd have to pay for that, too. Heaven forbid you ever got hurt. Even with health insurance, you would be setting her back money. You would be a very expensive cleaner at the end of the day. One that she would also be obligated to take care of emotionally as well. To me, all that work that she would be doing isn't worth the six hours of labor you would be providing. (If it's really six hours.) On another note, I am a submissive as well. What I don't understand is that you feel like you should be rewarded for serving. Rewards are nice and everything, but don't you just get joy out of making someone else happy? I LOVE pleasing people, and knowing that I have brightened their day, or, at least, made it easier. It gives me pleasure that is beyond sexual gratification. To me, that fulfillment in serving is part of being a submissive or a slave. So, when a Dominant allows me to do something for them, even if I am the one providing something, it's as much for my benefit as it is for theirs. I don't understand why you feel so entitled. If a Domme is letting you serve her (in whatever capacity), be happy.

LaTigresse -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 1:55:07 PM)
Nothing to add but ditto to what Arp and Chatte have already said. I actually find the poster, being slammed for the way she speaks, quite charming. I always have although until just now, never realized the gender, etc... And Kev........quit trying to validate the fact that you are a lazy, unemployed, goofy bugger looking for A. a way to continue bashing women that will not cater to YOUR kink B. another angle on how to get your kink wants met. Transparent as clear glass matey.

Lockit -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:02:36 PM)
I don't care how she speaks. I had no problem with that. I did have a problem with what she said. That they support the slave and use the slave to hire out if they want to, like hiring a horse for a day. I don't care if she does it that way... but saying that is the way it is and should be done... no, I don't think that is the only way to do it and that was spelled out in her post. She also inferred that I play at ownership. Nope.. never have and never will. I have never owned a slave and don't believe I ever will, but if I do, I will do it my way and will not hire them out like a horse could be hired out and will not support them, as it would be a mutual effort. Rather than hiring them out and taking that income for my own because I can then afford to own one and be a proper slave owner... I will just stick to the dynamics I wish to have with any partner I have. Works for me... so sorry her one true way isn't something I agree on as the way it is and should be.

kalikshama -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:06:38 PM)
quote: Will Women for example consent to putting their lives on the line like men do in the army? No . And then they turn around and claim discrimination well sorry but thats not how it works When I served in the United States Air Force despite being able to out shoot, out run, out bench press, out drive, out program, and out drink some men, I still encountered discrimination simply because I lacked a penis. (I did suck at ironing but fortunately my then-husband took over that essential part of military life.)

LaTigresse -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:06:53 PM)
While I do not believe in the more extreme examples she has given, and the fact that compared to her way, I do play at it I suppose.........I seriously do not take offense. It is simply her opinion given through her filters. I know others with similar mindsets. Their filters do not affect me or my life one iota so there is no reason for me to have a problem with them. I also know that to ME, many on here also 'play at it'. It is what it is.

Arpig -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:09:37 PM)
quote: If she was educated in Malta (where her profile states she is from), her English is excellent. She's originally from Macedonia actually.

myrgth -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:12:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Bullshit! You know so many masters but not one of them has a live-in submissive? Of the couples that I personally know and interact with on a r/t time basis who live together, both partners are self sufficient. Most, both work out side the home. There are two couples I know in which the male dominant is retired yet still self sufficient and another where the female submissive is on disability and does some computer work from home. I don't personally know of any couples in which the dynamic exists that one fully supports the other. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, simply that I don't personally know of any who have this dynamic.

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:12:33 PM)
Thats my exact point , i would serve in whatever capacity She wants me to serve Her gratis, for no charge. Yes it costs money i understand that but im not looking for goodies or luxuries as You put in. Do you consider a Domme paying for electricity , She would have to pay for that anyway or gas, She would have to pay for that anyway a luxury and look it if the Tv is such a big encumbrance, money wise , did i ask for a Tv no, so move it out , if it COSTS so much, your favourite word it appears, why do You look at everything in terms of COST there is more to LIFE than money and giving service free of charge is my particular pleasure if the Domme wishes to take me on, im not holding a gun to Her head , im just saying She will need to make provisions if She takes me on, in return i will work my butt off for Her, is that so unreasonable kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:14:05 PM)
Well good on You but many Women in the army are NOT as strong etc as fast etc as men yet they grumble that they are not paid the same. Does that make sense kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:16:16 PM)
as for driving insurance i dont drive so that takes care of that. Health insurance, i would make sure i was ok in that regard by using my savings to provide for that. So that cuts out 2 major expenses kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:17:43 PM)
Where have i mentioned anywhere that i want sexual gratification. Lets try this again, i HAVE NO INTEREST IN SEX PERIOD kevin

myrgth -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:19:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery You would be surprised how much time a day's domestic work will take. Stop being so cynical embittered and dismissive. And anyway six hours gratis is a sacrifice and yes it is enough. Think of all the money the Lady is saving by not having to pay someone to do this which She would otherwise have to do as She is at work during the day kevin If all I wanted was a housekeeper and a cook, I could get it for much, much cheaper than fully supporting another person. I have had housekeepers, twice, when my children were young. Both situations it was a young man who came in twice a week while I was at work, cleaned the entire house with the exception of the bedrooms and started a meal for dinner so that all I had to do was come home and put it in the oven for a bit. This usually took them between 1-2 hours to complete so I really am not understanding where you are coming up with 6 hours a day?

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:21:34 PM)
Do You not get though that in the real world You would have to PAY someone to do that work whilst i would do it for FREE does that not SAVE a Woman money. Sorry but i am getting irritated by this constant your costing your costing your costing. Please kindly change the record Ladies kevin

LaTigresse -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:24:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Do You not get though that in the real world You would have to PAY someone to do that work whilst i would do it for FREE does that not SAVE a Woman money. Sorry but i am getting irritated by this constant your costing your costing your costing. Please kindly change the record Ladies kevin kev, you are not reading what she wrote. Again, you are being completely unreasonable. Just do us all a favour. When you find the woman that is willing to put up with your ass, send her here. I would dearly LOVE to visit with her!

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:25:23 PM)
Ahha, thank you, Arpig. I admit to knowing absolutely nothing about English education in Macedonia. (Except that it is possibly non-existent.) It was obvious to me that English is not her primary language, and given what you have told me about going through the slave and using Google as a translator, I think she does an excellent job of communicating her thoughts and opinions. I also think she is quiet possibly from a culture that views slavery very different than many of us English speakers. Although her ideas often trend toward "one true wayism" to me as well, given her limited English there is too much of a chance of misunderstanding and too little of a chance of clarifying her exact meanings.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:30:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Well good on You but many Women in the army are NOT as strong etc as fast etc as men yet they grumble that they are not paid the same. Does that make sense kevin There are things that males can do that females can not, and things that females can do that males cannot. Get pregnant and give birth comes to mind. It takes a very different kind of strength to handle those things. Kevin, once again you are showcasing your youth and ignorance, not to mention your hatred of women. You can't find a dominant female that wants you, b/c you are a piss poor catch. If you want to improve your odds, work on becoming a better you.

lobodomslavery -> RE: Big difference between master and mistresses looking for slaves (9/6/2011 2:32:09 PM)
its laughable. How does offering Your services for FREE to a Lady constitute unreasonable? If it does i dont know, its so true Women truly are unique individuals, because only a Woman could find fault with someone offering assistance to Her kevin

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