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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:11:27 PM   
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How so?

To be dominated, a Dominant has to put for effort so that can take place. Just like a submissive has to put for effort to serve/submit. Both of those actions take commitment. (I didn't think I would have to spell this bit out.)

Also, if you don't expect anything in return, why are you worried about someone providing for you?




A submissive is there to serve.

It requires no work on the part of the dominant.

And I provide for myself very well.

My complaint is all the so-called dommes who expect me to provide for them.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:14:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: ummmmNo


How so?

To be dominated, a Dominant has to put for effort so that can take place. Just like a submissive has to put for effort to serve/submit. Both of those actions take commitment. (I didn't think I would have to spell this bit out.)

Also, if you don't expect anything in return, why are you worried about someone providing for you?




A submissive is there to serve.

It requires no work on the part of the dominant.

And I provide for myself very well.

My complaint is all the so-called dommes who expect me to provide for them.




Dominants, chime in at any time. According to him, you guys don't have to work when a sub serves you. There's no training, no direction.... Any of that mess. You guys just get to sit back. It must be awesome.

< Message edited by ummmmNo -- 9/6/2011 9:20:33 PM >

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:18:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would, but I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

He and kevin are two of a kind - it's all about them ... and because they only run into X type of women, that's what all women are because it COULDN'T be their own fault that they are only running into those types of women ...

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:24:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ummmmNo


Dominants, chime in at any time. According to him, you guys don't have to work when a sub serves you. There's no training, no direction.... Any of that mess. You guys just get to set back. It must be awesome.




Are you really this dense?

Do you really want to tell me what hard work it is to get a person who is submissive from the start to do what you want?







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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:27:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you really so dense that you don't understand that they have to be taught how to do things the way that particular dominant wants them done (especially if the sub has served someone with a totally different style in the past)? That it does take supervision just like with a job? That real life is NEVER that easy?

ETA: Dammit ... got sucked in anyway ... grrrr....

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:32:43 PM   
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I would, but I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

He and kevin are two of a kind - it's all about them ... and because they only run into X type of women, that's what all women are because it COULDN'T be their own fault that they are only running into those types of women ...


If you want to address me have the guts to do it to my face instead of sniping.






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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:37:14 PM   
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A submissive is there to serve.
Agreed.

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It requires no work on the part of the dominant.
Hanners knows me inside and out and understands me better than I do myself. Sometimes its like she reads my mind. She has to make all the decisions and manage all the details. And she makes sure I am happy and that I am on the right track with my life. That takes work. All I do in return is do what I am told to do, she has by far and away the harder job.

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And I provide for myself very well.
Good.

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My complaint is all the so-called dommes who expect me to provide for them.
Hanners gave you a suggestion a while back about a way to avoid that but you rejected it, and I explained to you one reason you are meeting those women, and you basically rejected that as well. You're on your own now, you don't want to do anything differently and so you will keep getting the same results and, we will have to keep reading your posts whining about it. Lucky us!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:46:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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A submissive is there to serve.
Agreed.

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It requires no work on the part of the dominant.
Hanners knows me inside and out and understands me better than I do myself. Sometimes its like she reads my mind. She has to make all the decisions and manage all the details. And she makes sure I am happy and that I am on the right track with my life. That takes work. All I do in return is do what I am told to do, she has by far and away the harder job.

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And I provide for myself very well.
Good.

quote:

My complaint is all the so-called dommes who expect me to provide for them.
Hanners gave you a suggestion a while back about a way to avoid that but you rejected it, and I explained to you one reason you are meeting those women, and you basically rejected that as well. You're on your own now, you don't want to do anything differently and so you will keep getting the same results and, we will have to keep reading your posts whining about it. Lucky us!



And what was that suggestion?

Because as long as this site continues to be a cesspool of scammers I'm going to keep complaining about it.

The only reason I usually come on here anymore is to argue politics in P&R.

But I occasionally browse the personals and it is just a steady stream of scams.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:49:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

I would, but I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

He and kevin are two of a kind - it's all about them ... and because they only run into X type of women, that's what all women are because it COULDN'T be their own fault that they are only running into those types of women ...


If you want to address me have the guts to do it to my face instead of sniping.




I didn't particularly want to address you - I was simply stating a reason why I wasn't jumping into the conversation, and possibly why others haven't either. I was addressing ummmmNo - or did you miss that I was talking to her?

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 9:53:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: ummmmNo


Dominants, chime in at any time. According to him, you guys don't have to work when a sub serves you. There's no training, no direction.... Any of that mess. You guys just get to set back. It must be awesome.




Are you really this dense?

Do you really want to tell me what hard work it is to get a person who is submissive from the start to do what you want?









It is VERY possible that the Domme would want you to do something you either A) never thought of, B) don't know a lot about or C)have done in the past, but for a different Domme with different tastes... In any or all of these situations, you will need training and guidance, so the Dominant will have to work then.

Also, DUH!

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 10:03:53 PM   
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And what was that suggestion?
That you try searching the switch profiles because she had never heard of a finswitch nor seen a scammer listing themselves as a switch.

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Because as long as this site continues to be a cesspool of scammers I'm going to keep complaining about it.
To what purpose? What exactly do you want us to do about it? Give me a viable suggestion of something I can concretely do and I will do it IF you rewrite your profile to give a prospective partner an idea of what sort of person you are in a vanilla context. Deal?

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 11:07:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doth my eyes decieve me, is HML going all dominant! Damn your logic and reasoning! Once again a member of the tripple-h club hits a home run.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 11:11:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I read through most of the comments in here made by the dominant ladies and I think it has reinforced my observation and my conclusion. They want a slave or sub that will not cost them anything. I'm not saying that is a right or wrong way of thinking. It just appears to be what it is. The money issue is more important that the submission. If not more important at least just as important.
I haven't read as many dominant guys profiles or posts but I get the feeling from the ones I have that for them the submission is much more important than the money. If they have a hot little slave girl at home taking care of the house and ready with a drink and a willing body they don't care as much if she is paying her own way.

Oh, and flaming me for bringing this up as a discussion is kind of pointless. I'm interested in everyones opinion but couldn't give a shit if you think I'm a idiot. Sorry, but my ability to not care about what people that don't have anything constructive to say is one of my better features. If you can't respect the people that put down what they think then why don't you go and ad another thoughtless entry in the guys sucking guys thread.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 11:16:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thezigg

So I read through most of the comments in here made by the dominant ladies and I think it has reinforced my observation and my conclusion. They want a slave or sub that will not cost them anything. I'm not saying that is a right or wrong way of thinking. It just appears to be what it is. The money issue is more important that the submission. If not more important at least just as important.
I haven't read as many dominant guys profiles or posts but I get the feeling from the ones I have that for them the submission is much more important than the money. If they have a hot little slave girl at home taking care of the house and ready with a drink and a willing body they don't care as much if she is paying her own way.

Oh, and flaming me for bringing this up as a discussion is kind of pointless. I'm interested in everyones opinion but couldn't give a shit if you think I'm a idiot. Sorry, but my ability to not care about what people that don't have anything constructive to say is one of my better features. If you can't respect the people that put down what they think then why don't you go and ad another thoughtless entry in the guys sucking guys thread.


I have two s/s, both of them pay me rent. They work part time and go to college, if they worked full time, i would charge them more. As long as they make an effort, that's all I care about. After reading the posts in this thread, I get the impression that the Dommes feel the same way. It's not about how much you make, it's about the effort to do so.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 11:18:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Think what you want - your conclusions are not nearly as accurate as you want to believe.

There is no catagory of people who can be neatly described by a certain trait universally.

Yes, some women want men to bring home the bacon - some men want women to (we've gotten e-mails from quite a few of those).

Some women are gold diggers, no more, no less - willing to trade what few morals they may have for some quick cash. Some men are just hoping to find a rich heiress so that they can spend their days at the country club and their nights banging the maid.

More importantly for this site, some women have found a way to make a few bucks quick ... and some men have figured out that they can do the same with a female profile (I'd venture to guess that at least 1/2 of the "tribute dommes" on the site are actually males looking for some porn and some cash - I may be wrong, but such is life).

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/6/2011 11:37:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		For starters, anyone who asks for money in return for "domming" someone is a prostitute. Nothing wrong with being one, but dressing it up in nicer sounding terms like financial domination, seeking pay piggies, tributes (we have a winner!), etc. is just so much baloney. Those terms make "pro domme" sound positively honest.

Second, a prostitute is never a domme/Dom/domina. Remember your Lawrence of Arabia? It is the servant who takes money:) The rest - pure hogwash.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 12:58:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		What disappoints me in this thread is not so much the focus that Women here have on the importance of getting the subs money AS WELL as their service but also the number of patronising and condescending comments that the Women here have made to the men on this thread. it s really a sad reflection that 40 years on from the time Women rightly revolted against patronising patriarchy that they now turn the same patronising attitude on men. And its not just confined to this thread i see it everywhere all around me even on tv exemplified in ads such as even a man can do it, the point being that the male is an idiot but even idiots are capable of something whereas Women if so portrayed on Tv there would be riots it wouldnt be accepted it would be seen as demeaning yet it s ok to constantly and with impunity to demean men. And then the Women talk about hypocrisy what could be more hypocritical than the way Women treat men today
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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 1:22:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		the other hypocrisy of course is Women here and elsewhere also want it every way. Here they are seeking submissive men but if a man is overly submissive he is annoying so the man becomes a little more robust and assertive but then doubtless he is labelled a brat and if he dares to give an opposite point of view to the Woman in question he is then branded a Woman hater a misogynist, a Woman says She wants a slave who can be vanilla and not be slave all the time, the slave says this would be very acceptable as being slave all the time would be over punitive and harsh, said applicant does not receive a reply, submissive men can t win, but anyway im done, most of the Women here think im an idiot so im going to play that role from now on and confine my conversation to the random polls and stupidity forum
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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 2:38:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
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ORIGINAL: Rule
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That doesn't help with whatever issues you have with her content

I have issues with her content? That is interesting and new to me. Pray tell what my issues with her content are? I would like to know. You may quote me on these issues, please?

Oh you poor misguided thing, don't get your panties in a twist. Do we have to send you to the corner with Kevie?

I meant a universal "you" as in anyone reading my post.

Happy now?

No, I am not happy with your answer. I would have respected you had you simply apologized. Instead I get a cowardly reply in which you refuse responsibility for your assertion.

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RE: Big difference between master and mistresses lookin... - 9/7/2011 2:39:51 AM   
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the slave says this would be very acceptable as being slave all the time would be over punitive and harsh

You are not a slave. You are a masochist.

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