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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 6:31:58 AM

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OP, it seems that your questions have had a common theme in the way that you're concerned with finding your way in a world that you perceive to have rules and a structure that you are not familiar with. I think something important to keep in mind is that one of the most widely practiced 'things' in this BDSM world is to do it your own way. D/s relationships are composed of people and people are different. Every couple is even different, you may do different things when involved with this person as opposed to that one. It's a process, not a rule. Which is why in general when people ask the question of if there are some people who do something or like something...there will be, and there will be some people who don't.

To answer your question and add to the body of knowledge you are collecting here...this is what my Dom and I do, and of course it is only pertinent to us, others do as they may. My Dom and I have a relationship where we have a basic structure of leadership - his. After that basic platform, we tend to be physically and verbally affectionate with each other.We are lovers in every sense of the word, he rubs my feet, massages me, is tender, tells me constantly that I'm beautiful, writes me deep and profound messages along with silly ones, calls me to to say I love you, or sing me a song, shares activities with me, cooks for me, cleans for me, brushes my hair, and contacts me several times a day. I do those things too ( no singing though!) and in different concentrations. He also tells me how to do things the way he wants them done, outlines what i'm to bring for an activitiy, lets me know a basic plan for eating and gym visits, hurts me in the bedroom, specifies a time table for my and our priorities, and puts those priorities in order on a continual basis when they shift. None of that is unusual, none of it is particularly special...we're just a couple. We found our way to this particular combination of things and it seems to work, if it didn't we'd switch things around. It took a bit of time for me in the beginning to get used to him being my leader, my boyfriend, and my tormentor, but we really just came to each other being ourselves and we found that we work well together and we fine tune what we need to.

I'm sure you'll find that when you meet someone it's always different what the two of you create and it'll be the 'right' thing no matter what others do. Although I will admit, finding out how others do things is always rather interesting...

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 6:35:53 AM

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Why not?

I'm the Dom. If I want to do that, I will. As well as any other activity that's not a hard limit. If she wants it, that factors into my decision.

Hell, there are Dom/mes that order their subs to spank/flog/whip them. Rubbing feet is not unMasterly at all compared to that.

IMO, if the Dom does something that he wants to do, that makes him more Dominant than any set of rules.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 6:58:52 AM

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Steven, I understand you want to come to Korea and show off your mad massagey skills for hours and hours while tickling a girl's funny bone. You really ought to stop resisting that desire. (But you knew that!)

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 7:03:49 AM

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How I wish it was as simple as that! Anyway, that's an entirely different and unrelated topic which should be left alone.

All things are as simple as that. Unless you would like to contend that you are just hopeless and helpless, drifting on the wind.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 7:11:22 AM

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I do see your point, but part of being a slave is letting your M-type do what they want, and that includes letting them serve you if it fits their whim. If people's dynamic doesn't allow for that more power to them, but in my world absolute power includes even the 'submissive' stuff.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 7:18:09 AM

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Its simple.

If he wants too... then its a Masterly act.

If I want him too and he wants too... still a Masterly act.

If I ask him too, and he decides to do so... again, a Masterly act.

If I demand him too... and he does even when he doesnt want too... its now a Mistressly act.

Needless to say... me demanding dont get me much at all... lol

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 7:34:12 AM

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To the OP

By unMasterly, are you just afraid that something like that could undermine the dynamic? Especially in light of your previous slave? Is that what you mean by unMasterly?

What I learned when I was with my former Master is that if he chose to do it, then it was HIS option as the Master and not my place to question. He was choosing to give me what he wanted me to have.If I were in pain (other than of his doing) then I may not serve him to the best of my ability, even if not for that, it was his desire to do something nice for me. So anything that is done, by your choice, would be Master's choice.

I have discussed this with my Master being that he has come from a vanilla world before me and he said that there would be times when he might want me to just relax after a hard day, to not serve, and wanted to know if something like that would make me mad (since at first glance it wouldn't seem to be the most Masterly stance on things) and I explained to him that if it was HIS choice for me to do something or not then it was right on target.

As a slave my right is not to serve, it is my pleasure, but it is by the choice of the Master how the slave serves or is cared for.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 7:54:31 AM

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I had been staying away from this thread because I had thought it read "Messaging a slave's feet"
Then I saw all the responses it was getting and thought I was missing out on some new kink!

LMM, there are many different things you do on a daily basis that brings pleasure to your slave,
(why would she be your slave if she felt no joy with you), so offering comfort isn't so far fetched.
If it ever becomes an issue for you, you can always find a woman who hates it.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 8:03:51 AM

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If you do it, you will lose your "master" status. If you do it again, the "lord" status will go too. You will be left with "M".

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 8:21:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Buzzzz

If you do it, you will lose your "master" status. If you do it again, the "lord" status will go too. You will be left with "M".

Lol.

OP, why do you seem to be a bit concerned with being Masterly? If the one slave didn't like you to touch her feet than that was her preference, not everyone's. I just kind of wonder why your small experience with her seems to be coloring your entire view on M/s or maybe it's not, but you do seem to be preoccupied with playing Master in almost a role play way instead of simply inhabiting the position and letting the chips fall where they may with who does what to each other.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 8:26:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Buzzzz

If you do it, you will lose your "master" status. If you do it again, the "lord" status will go too. You will be left with "M".

Am I the only one who thought of Peter Lorre?

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 8:41:49 AM

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I don't find any controversy in the OP's question.

I only find it ironic that he would be overly concerned about massaging the feet of someone he calls "it".

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 9:32:51 AM

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OP: This has got to be the craziest post I've read yet.

If you care about the person, and they are hurting...why would you NOT do something for them? D/s or not. If you are with the person for a relationship, and you KNOW they are in pain, why would you NOT try to comfort someone who goes and would bend over backwards to please you?

UnMasterly? Please. If you care for your slave/submissive/bottom...use your damn head man.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 12:05:23 PM

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Physical acts are neither submissive nor dominant in nature; it's the intent and mindset behind the act that most often makes the difference.

I was owned in the past by someone who felt certain acts were not "masterly." In the end I told him he was a slave to his own views, and rather than enjoying the pleasures of life, he was limiting himself to live by a definition. I'd caution you to not do the same.

I am owned now by someone who does rub my feet and shoulders, when I'm in pain. In fact, I am required to tell him if my feet are hurting too much (history of plantars faciitis and a past double ankle injury), so he can be sure they're taken care of. I also have chronic pain in one of my shoulders and at times he'll give it a deep massage to release all the tension in it.

He's loving and taking care of what belongs to him, which makes me appreciate him even more.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 12:11:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: LordMasterM

What do the Masters & the Mistresses think about massaging a slave's feet?

I am referring to a condition when the slave is dead tired and hurting? Will it be unMasterly to massage a slave's feet or give it a backrub when it is in physical pain?

My view is that since the slave is your property, you must take good care of it.

Would love to hear from others.

LMM

I think it's as considerate and kindly as me massaging his.

He really wouldn't give a jot whether it was or not. He does his own thing and I, for one, am usually very glad of that.

Well, yes. But if so, why are you asking this?

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 12:16:30 PM

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One of my earlier slave was vehemently against me even touching its feet!

Even noticing that a slave has feet renders you completely unMasterly. By your own admission you indeed discussed a slave's feet in the past. Unfortunately this cannot be overlooked, and I must insist you surrender your Master certificate and alter your profile immediately to reflect your true status as a slave.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 12:53:44 PM

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I'm a switch, but I think one of the best parts of being dominant is that your sub can't say no if you want to do something nice for them!

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 1:39:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

quote:

One of my earlier slave was vehemently against me even touching its feet!

Even noticing that a slave has feet renders you completely unMasterly. By your own admission you indeed discussed a slave's feet in the past. Unfortunately this cannot be overlooked, and I must insist you surrender your Master certificate and alter your profile immediately to reflect your true status as a slave.

Please do not forget to turn in your Mastercard as well, along with the pin.

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 1:55:28 PM

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A Master does what pleases him. If it pleases him to massage his slave's feet or back, why would he let another's opinion bother him?

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RE: Massaging a slave's feet - 9/5/2011 1:59:29 PM

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Slaves are people too.

My Master massages my feet and shoulders. He makes me tea and runs me a bath. I do the same for him.

It has zero effect on the M/s dynamic, but it has a huge, positive effect on our relationship.

QFT

What you said, myotherself, sums it us for us as well. I've had a history of bad leg cramps at night, often waking up with horrible "charliehorses" in my calves and muscle cramps in my feet and toes. It has caused me quite a bit of misery. Master has been known to roll over and start rubbing the cramps out without a word. What wonderful hands He has! I had a couple of foot surgeries back in the spring and He was by my side attending to me in the hospital and back at home over the course of a couple of months. He loves me, treasures me and does many things every day to make my life pleasant, just as I do for Him. As pretty much everyone else here has already said, the dynamic doesn't matter. It's just that we're in a loving RELATIONSHIP and it's a wonderfully symbiotic one

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