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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 10:40:41 AM   
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WHERE IS THE RAW VIDEO?????

Why won't you post the raw video?????


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The exact words, minus the far lefts spin on them:



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"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa said to a heavily union crowd.



"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.






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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 11:06:01 AM   
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because his friends havent told him how to spin it yet
he will be back when they tell him what to say

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 4:40:21 PM   
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Immediately following Hoffas remarks introducing the president (saying we need to take the sons of bitches out) Obama called on the GOP to join him to work together for the good of the country

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I'm going to propose ways to put America back to work that both parties can agree to, because I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems," Obama said at an annual Labor Day rally sponsored by the Detroit-area AFL-CIO. "Given the urgency of this moment, given the hardship that many people are facing, folks have got to get together. But we're not going to wait for them."

"We're going to see if we've got some straight shooters in Congress. We're going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before party," he said.


You cant make this kind of shit up...


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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 4:46:17 PM   
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Immediately following Hoffas remarks introducing the president (saying we need to take the sons of bitches out) Obama called on the GOP to join him to work together for the good of the country

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I'm going to propose ways to put America back to work that both parties can agree to, because I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems," Obama said at an annual Labor Day rally sponsored by the Detroit-area AFL-CIO. "Given the urgency of this moment, given the hardship that many people are facing, folks have got to get together. But we're not going to wait for them."

"We're going to see if we've got some straight shooters in Congress. We're going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before party," he said.


You cant make this kind of shit up...


but you tried earlier

LMFAO



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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:03:05 PM   
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The last refuge of the raving lunatic - denial.

How sad, but at least she can laugh at a hubcap for hours, so you know shes happy.

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but you tried earlier

LMFAO




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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:37:24 PM   
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denial ??where is my denial?? please show where I denied any part of it
you got hoisted on your own petard over heavily edited video, you have ignored everything but your own spin, n now piling more on moron?
Im not laughing at a hubcap Im laughing you...a hubcap doesnt know how to be a shithead


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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:37:44 PM   
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quote:

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Immediately following Hoffas remarks introducing the president (saying we need to take the sons of bitches out) Obama called on the GOP to join him to work together for the good of the country

quote:

I'm going to propose ways to put America back to work that both parties can agree to, because I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems," Obama said at an annual Labor Day rally sponsored by the Detroit-area AFL-CIO. "Given the urgency of this moment, given the hardship that many people are facing, folks have got to get together. But we're not going to wait for them."

"We're going to see if we've got some straight shooters in Congress. We're going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before party," he said.


You cant make this kind of shit up...
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If you think this is amazing, wait till Thursday. When he's done he'll have the sheep convicned that the budget bill, blocked by a 97-0 in the Senate, was cratered because of GOP opposition.

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:43:28 PM   
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In your own delusional mind perhaps, but the administration is refusing to comment on it and the DNC spokeshole is refusing to comment... not what you would expect if your lie that the video was "heavily edited" had any merit

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denial ??where is my denial?? please show where I denied any part of it
you got hoisted on your own petard over heavily edited video, you have ignored everything but your own spin, n now piling more on moron?
Im not laughing at a hubcap Im laughing you...a hubcap doesnt know how to be a shithead



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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:57:15 PM   
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Where was my denial??in post 84...canyou actually answer a question honestly without detouring up your rear end?


I dont give a rats ass why they are refusing to comment on it... if they had you would be putting your own ODS spin on it anyway.

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 5:57:45 PM   
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Listen up, douchebag, you posted something that was heavily edited and you don't have the guts to admit that you were 100% duped. You are a piece of shit.

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 7:11:16 PM   
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Where's the RAW FOOTAGE??????


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In your own delusional mind perhaps, but the administration is refusing to comment on it and the DNC spokeshole is refusing to comment... not what you would expect if your lie that the video was "heavily edited" had any merit

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

denial ??where is my denial?? please show where I denied any part of it
you got hoisted on your own petard over heavily edited video, you have ignored everything but your own spin, n now piling more on moron?
Im not laughing at a hubcap Im laughing you...a hubcap doesnt know how to be a shithead





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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 7:18:53 PM   
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Listen up, douchebag, you posted something that was heavily edited and you don't have the guts to admit that you were 100% duped. You are a piece of shit.


Domi....you need to learn not to hold back so much.

Let it out man....express yourself.

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 7:21:27 PM   
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Good point

Seems like the president would make that video available, in the name of the "new tone"  and "most transparent White House in history" he kept preaching to us about

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Where's the RAW FOOTAGE??????


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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 7:22:29 PM   
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Domi is just a troll, most people ignore him

Funniest thing about him is that he is a white kid who pretends to be black

But that gets old after about the first day

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Listen up, douchebag, you posted something that was heavily edited and you don't have the guts to admit that you were 100% duped. You are a piece of shit.


Domi....you need to learn not to hold back so much.

Let it out man....express yourself.



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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 7:53:28 PM   
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This must be some of that "new tone" that Obama likes to preach to us about



VDH did a great job of discussing this:

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Jimmy Hoffa, in his introduction to Barack Obama, managed to violate almost every liberal commandment on “civility”:

They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war . . . President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let’s take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

1) The use of martial imagery: After the Giffords shooting, we were lectured that metaphors like “crosshairs” were inflammatory; but war seems pretty overt.

2) Coded threats: We were lectured that talk radio often uses language tantamount to calling for near insurrection; but by that logic “war,” “army,” and “march” are, again, not an implied but in some sense an overt call to action of some sort (e.g., what does Hoffa mean by his army marching to war?).

3) Profanity: Even talk radio cannot get away with “these son of bitches”; we are back to Reverend Wright’s “God damn America” both in language and in the apparent compliant silence of the hearer Barack Obama.

4) “Take out”: For many Americans, “take out” is popular jargon for assassinate; it was used a lot in the Cold War in the sense of killing some foreign despot. That message probably was not lost on the audience.

5) “Give America back”: A common liberal complaint is that conservative phrases like “take back America” are a sort of charge of treason, as if the liberals in power were not genuinely American. But Hoffa was even more overt. He thinks un-Americans now have America and it has to be forcibly retrieved from these counterfeits by his and Obama’s real Americans.

A growing problem for Barack Obama is Barack Obama. Because he chose to be a sermonizing president, he is bound to practice what he so commonly preaches — otherwise he risks the fate of an Elmer Gantry, or sanctimonious Jimmy Carter. But on a number of topics, he has simply lost all credibility. How can Obama ever again lecture Americans on “civil discourse” and the need for common standards of polite public speech after following Hoffa’s mean-spirited rant and offering him praise? How, after these first family elite vacations to Martha’s Vineyard, Costa del Sol, Vail, etc., can Obama ever again credibly lecture on the dangers of indulgent “millionaires and billionaires,” “corporate jet owners,” “spread the wealth,” and “fat cats” whose lives are so very different from our own? And how — after confessing that his “shovel-ready” $800 billion “stimulus” targeted at “investments” and “infrastructure” in fact “was not as shovel ready as we expected” — can he request to borrow hundreds of additional billions for shovel-ready investments in infrastructure? What has now changed to ensure the next near trillion will be “shovel-ready”?


The rest of his comments: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276356/credibility-decline-victor-davis-hanson#comments




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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/6/2011 8:16:35 PM   
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Why are you pretending that I haven't been demanding from you the raw footage supporting the quotes you allege to have been said?




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Good point

Seems like the president would make that video available, in the name of the "new tone"  and "most transparent White House in history" he kept preaching to us about

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Where's the RAW FOOTAGE??????




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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/7/2011 8:07:57 AM   
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Q And lastly, Jay, in January, President Obama said after the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords, “At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all the ails of the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment, make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.” Did he mean that?

MR. CARNEY: Of course he did.

Q How does the comments — how did the comments by the Teamsters’ president fit in with that?

MR. CARNEY: Well, first of all, those weren’t comments by the President. Secondly, and as I think it’s been reported by –

Q Comments by a union leader at an event that President Obama spoke at.[link=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef01539162fa67970b-popup][/link]

MR. CARNEY: I understand that there is a ritual in Washington that somebody says something and you link the associations, and then everybody who has an association with him or her somehow has to avow or disavow it.
The President wasn’t there — I mean, he wasn’t on stage. He didn’t speak for another 20 minutes. He didn’t hear it. I really don’t have any comment beyond that, Jake.

Q Okay. Well, some of us covered the campaign and recall a time when somebody made some harsh comments about then-Senator Obama while — during the introduction of a McCain rally and the Obama campaign was offended and expected an apology, and Senator McCain came out and did so.

MR. CARNEY: Mr. Hoffa speaks for himself. He speaks for the labor movement, the AFL-CIO. The President speaks for himself. I speak for the President.

What the President was glad to do yesterday was have the opportunity to present his views on the importance of working Americans and on the importance of taking measures to help working Americans –

Q Okay, so the precedent –

MR. CARNEY: — to create jobs and grow the economy.

Q So the precedent you’re setting right now for the 2012 election is, the candidate — the Republican candidates are the ones that we need to pay attention to, and those who introduce them at rallies, their surrogates — you don’t have to pay attention to anything that they say.

MR. CARNEY: Jake, I really — I think I’ve said what I can say about this.

Q I just — is that the standard now?

MR. CARNEY: You can report it as you –

Q I’d rather not have to do this Washington Kabuki every time something happens –

MR. CARNEY: It’s up to you to do the Kabuki –

Q — but if that’s the standard — if that’s the standard, then –

MR. CARNEY: The standard is, we should focus on the actions we can take to grow the economy and create jobs, instead of focusing on Kabuki theater.

Q Did the President find the comments appropriate?

MR. CARNEY: Can we move on?



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/09/white-house-dodges-teamsters-sob-quote-jake-tapper.html


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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/7/2011 8:15:38 AM   
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somebody says something and you link the associations, and then everybody who has an association with him or her somehow has to avow or disavow it. The President wasn’t there — I mean, he wasn’t on stage. He didn’t speak for another 20 minutes. He didn’t hear it. I really don’t have any comment beyond that, Jake.

what is that??? that is NOT the president, so you are lying AGAIN

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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/7/2011 8:22:46 AM   
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Do you even know what you are babbling about, crazy lady?

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somebody says something and you link the associations, and then everybody who has an association with him or her somehow has to avow or disavow it. The President wasn’t there — I mean, he wasn’t on stage. He didn’t speak for another 20 minutes. He didn’t hear it. I really don’t have any comment beyond that, Jake.

what is that??? that is NOT the president, so you are lying AGAIN


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RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event - 9/7/2011 8:48:40 AM   
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aw 14 hours, you DO love me

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