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Owner59 -> 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 5:51:38 PM)
More than half...... That`s the kind of job creation Perry has in mind for all of America. That`s not going to turn anyone`s economy around. "According to the Texas Workforce Commission, 51 percent of all Texas workers make less than $33,000 a year. Only 30 percent make more than $50,000 a year. Nationally, Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/09/07/general-us-debate-fact-check_8664319.html

Aylee -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 6:51:43 PM)
Since when did Micky Dee's start paying 15 bucks an hour? $33,000 per year at 40 hours per week in $15.865 an hour.

farglebargle -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 6:54:43 PM)
I imagine if you're salaried management working 60-80 hour average weeks, you can see 30 - 40 grand... This here ( and I have no idea how accurate it is ) puts an Asst manager at $19,961 - $36,639.... http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=McDonald%27s_Corporation/Salary

tweakabelle -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 8:21:13 PM)
What a cute idea! Is Perry serious when he offers this as a solution to the US's economic woes? He couldn't possibly have a straight face, could he? Surely no one, not even a Right wing populist could be that terminally dumb? The taxes generated on wages this low won't even pay for the extra healthcare bill as the healthcare system tries to repair the damage inflicted on a nation consuming MacD's gruesome health-destroying muck. Some 'recipe' for economic health! [sm=rofl.gif]

TheHeretic -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 8:56:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" How did they do on cost of living?

tj444 -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 9:28:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" How did they do on cost of living? Texas is a lot less than many other places from what i have seen and I dont believe there is any state income tax... From what i have read before commutes are reasonable. But I believe the requirement to live there is that ya gotta buy a cowboy hat and boots and drive a pick-up truck.. [:D] Here is a calculator that will tell you what you would need to earn in texas for the same standard of living compared to where you live now.. for instance, an office manager making 60,000 in Orange County, CA = $39,000 in austin, texas http://www.payscale.com/cost-of-living-calculator

tazzygirl -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 9:54:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Since when did Micky Dee's start paying 15 bucks an hour? $33,000 per year at 40 hours per week in $15.865 an hour. Guess you missed the "less than" aspect.

Aylee -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonald's level wages. (9/8/2011 10:05:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Since when did Micky Dee's start paying 15 bucks an hour? $33,000 per year at 40 hours per week in $15.865 an hour. Guess you missed the "less than" aspect. Nope. But the average McDonald's employee (not management) is making about half of that $33,000. That would be, full-time employees. If you figure that the median wage for the group being talked about is $13 an hour, the OP needs to choose a different company/job. As it stands, it is rather misleading as it insinuates that 51% of Texans are making minimum wage.

StrangerThan -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 11:19:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 More than half...... That`s the kind of job creation Perry has in mind for all of America. That`s not going to turn anyone`s economy around. "According to the Texas Workforce Commission, 51 percent of all Texas workers make less than $33,000 a year. Only 30 percent make more than $50,000 a year. Nationally, Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/09/07/general-us-debate-fact-check_8664319.html Personally, 33k is better than 0k. Take Texas job creation numbers out of the mix and Obama's numbers go past dismal into the absolutely horrendous column. The great thing about liberals is, I get to watch them bitch about jobs in one post, and fawn over them in another. I agree we need better paying jobs. This kind of bullshit though basically says, let's just do nothing, and whine about someone who does. http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-07-25-texas-a-magnet-for-jobs_n.htm

MrRodgers -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/8/2011 11:54:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" How did they do on cost of living? The 'cost-of-living' should be right around there. (34th ?) The so-called cost-of-living when including housing especially, reflects the great economic rule...how much does that cost ? How much do you have ? Ex: The same relatively large house, in-ground pool, private in-law apt,, 3 car gar....reduced to sell at $69,000 just outside Detroit, in the metro DC area...$400,000-$500,000. That's not supply and demand, not the cost, (land & building) it is income.

tj444 -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 12:31:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 More than half...... That`s the kind of job creation Perry has in mind for all of America. That`s not going to turn anyone`s economy around. "According to the Texas Workforce Commission, 51 percent of all Texas workers make less than $33,000 a year. Only 30 percent make more than $50,000 a year. Nationally, Texas ranked 34th in median household income from 2007 to 2009" http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/09/07/general-us-debate-fact-check_8664319.html oh, I am sure Perry is pushing hard for the Keystone pipeline to be built and that would transport 500,000 barrels of oil from Alberta (thats in Canada for those that dont know and its also thanks to NAFTA & free trade) to texas and Louisiana refineries for processing (which should be done in Alberta btw). So there will be the jobs from building the pipeline and jobs at the refineries, as well as jobs trucking the refined products to the other markets, etc, etc. Those would not be low paying jobs either. According to exxon, the potential is for lots of new jobs. You take projects like that, you take a govt that helps rather than hinders business and businesspeople will expand existing businesses and start new ones. It wont all happen overnight but it wont happen at all if there isnt a govt that listens to business and helps to encourage investment for the long haul. Perry already has the reputation of creating a business friendly climate and creating jobs.. especially in this horrible economy and business & job losses that plagues most other states. I seem to recall there are a few posters from Texas on here.. I dont seem to recall them bitching about what Perry has done, the kinds of jobs created, the general climate for people and business there...

servantforuse -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 5:28:33 AM)
The 2010 census figures show that Texas was the fastest growing state in the nation over the last decade, gaining 4,293,741 new residents, a 9.7 % increase. I guess it can't be so bad there after all....

tj444 -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 7:08:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse The 2010 census figures show that Texas was the fastest growing state in the nation over the last decade, gaining 4,293,741 new residents, a 9.7 % increase. I guess it can't be so bad there after all.... i believe about 1/3 of all the new jobs in the US are in Texas too so they gotta be doing something very seriously right. lol

willbeurdaddy -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 7:41:26 AM)
20% of Americans make no wages and 5% of Americans are receiving unemployment benefits that are increasing the deficit.

Lucylastic -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 8:43:37 AM)
1 in 4 have no health insurance also adding to the deficit you care about those too right..or maybe not as you cant make any money off them

Owner59 -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 8:50:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse The 2010 census figures show that Texas was the fastest growing state in the nation over the last decade, gaining 4,293,741 new residents, a 9.7 % increase. I guess it can't be so bad there after all.... i believe about 1/3 of all the new jobs in the US are in Texas too so they gotta be doing something very seriously right. lol Yup,making crap jobs that won`t support a growing middle class or growing families or a mortgage. If we cut everyone`s pay in half and hired someone else with the other half,according to con-logic,we could double employment overnight. See how that works?[:D] Doesn`t even require reality......[8\|]

Lucylastic -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 8:57:39 AM)
it wouldnt be the first time a con suggested it, of course they wouldnt allow it with their own jobs (beginning sarcasm)but low levellers are worthless anyway according to "some" (end sarcasm) for those who think Im being serious

joether -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 8:58:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy 20% of Americans make no wages and 5% of Americans are receiving unemployment benefits that are increasing the deficit. Yes we can listen to your 'numbers' or go straight to the source of REAL information.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 9:00:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 If we cut everyone`s pay in half and hired someone else with the other half,according to con-logic,we could double employment overnight. See how that works?[:D] Doesn`t even require reality......[8\|] Too bad that is EXACTLY the Maxine Waters/liberal logic, not conservative logic. Take money from the working (there is no difference between a tax and a cut in pay) and give it to others to spend. And you dont even get work out of it.

MileHighM -> RE: 51% of Texans make McDonalds level wages. (9/9/2011 9:12:51 AM)
Take some of the BS out of the numbers.... Texas doesn't need to be #1 in Median income. It is a cheap ass place to live. It much cheaper than Cali,NY, MA, NJ,CT,VT,NH,RI, etc. hell even cheaper than here in CO. Other than that this is a case of beggers being choosers. I have taken a reduction in pay as many have....I am not bitching, I am still happy to get a check. You can bitch all you want that these are low paying jobs, but the fact remains....they are jobs. Anything is better than nothing.

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