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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 12:45:01 AM   
Rule


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Every newspaper has this bull shit in it every week.  EVERY WEEK!.    10 LONG years of this  trauma!  it is not fair to those of us who lived.

Maybe you can sue them?

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 12:49:53 AM   
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Here ya go R0.

http://www.infowars.com/cia-threatens-911-researchers-after-discovery-of-cover-up-details/

I quote from your link:

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former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, who told them on the record that he has intelligence that three former top CIA officials – George Tenet, Cofer Black and Richard Blee – knowingly withheld key information on the alleged hijackers from the White House, the FBI, Immigration and the State and Defense Departments.

That is wrong. No planes crashed that day. Ergo: there were no hijackers.

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 12:57:53 AM   
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In point of fact, 1500 architects and engineers agree with the conspiracy theory, which as I pointed out earlier is less than 1% of the total number of architects and engineers currently licensed and working in the US.

I am interested in one point of view only: Mine.

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When you morons finally accept facts and give up on this bullshit, you, RO, termy and rule will find life a bit easier to deal with.

I like bullshit. It is produced by cattle that father calfs on cows, causing the cows to produce milk, which in turn is transformed into yogurt, which I eat and mostly subsist on.

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Of course, if the bunch of you would get on the proper meds, you would find life easier to deal with.

Hey! I wanya te know that just about an hour ago I took a multi vitamin tablet!

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 9:19:56 AM   
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well you see whne you are far more intelligent than the average  flouride drinking prozak gobbling retard you quickly come to realize there is a huge difference between "facts" and "truth".

The day when you are considered to be "far more intelligent than the average flouride drinking prozak gobbling retard" by anyone other than yourself is the day when you wake up and all that's left on the planet are plankton and you, and even then it'll be a close call.

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So take a couple good hits of buprenorphine and go back to bed, you will feel better in the morning.

Is that what gets you through the night?  You might want t consider kicking that dosage up a notch and throwing in some ECT for good measure.  Your current treatment plan is clearly not working.


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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 4:27:52 PM   
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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 4:34:11 PM   
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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 4:37:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef

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When you morons finally accept facts and give up on this bullshit, you, RO, termy and rule will find life a bit easier to deal with.

No, they probably won't. 



You forgot the proper meds part of that statement.

In truth, there is a psychological basis for the belief in conspiracy theories, beginning with paranoia.  It is well documented, just google "Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists."

I have started a number of threads on the subject in the past, and hunk, RO, Rule and termy always prove the point.

Funny thing about paranoid delusions is that they can sometimes lead to violence, even homicide.

Of course, once our paranoid conspiracy theorists become violent, then they will be incarcerated, and once a professional evaluation is done, they would be institutionalized.  Of course, this means that they would be out of our hair and off our computer screens.  Even though I have them on ignore, it is annoying to see them show up in quotes.


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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 4:55:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		"When you morons finally accept facts and give up on this bullshit, you, RO, termy and rule will find life a bit easier to deal with. "

I quoted this from your quote (Rule), and it is timely because of the nature of the statement. I quoted the statement and had a response but there is something else now, of which I had not thought. Something that even you have maybe not detected.

You claim such intelligence but that's hard to prove, I think you are above average but then, do you have the capacity for omnidirectional thinking ? Let me quote that quote once more for all, perhaps you did catch on to what I am getting at but you certainly have not expessed it. Here is the quote again, but I will bold certain parts this time :

"When you morons finally accept facts and give up on this bullshit, you, RO, termy and rule will find life a bit easier to deal with. "

Rule, et alii compos mentis, what do those words mean ? They mean that we will find things go better for us if we just accept their "facts" as presented without question. That there is a reward for thinking in conformity with the published story. That things can be hard for people who think differently or don't believe the same as the masses. That conformity is good. That conformity is beneficial to one's status in society.

What else does such a statement say about the author ? That he believes that it is easier to just go with the flow, do not buck it, do not become an eddy current, do not build a dam, do not do anything, just conform like a molecule of liquid moving through a perfectly smooth pipe, not clinging to anything so as not to cause any waves, standing or otherwise, to not make waves.

Normally I enjoy irony but I must admit that this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Here we are living in a country that continually makes waves, has gone against the trend in better days and prospered because of it, and now after all this we are in a group that is not popular and goes against the status quo in our very being, and we have people here who say that we should just go with the flow because things will go better for us.

Such people are quislings.

This post will be reproduced in my thread so as not to hijack this one.

T^T

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 5:37:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

When you morons finally accept facts and give up on this bullshit, you, RO, termy and rule will find life a bit easier to deal with.

No, they probably won't. 



You forgot the proper meds part of that statement.

In truth, there is a psychological basis for the belief in conspiracy theories, beginning with paranoia.  It is well documented, just google "Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists."

well documented bullshit is still bullshit.

but you saw it on tv so you gotts beweave it!



Just look at that invincible beer can!  thank gracious goodnes there is no conspiracy a foot.


I have started a number of threads on the subject in the past, and hunk, RO, Rule and termy always prove the point.

Yeh that your treads are always political and not factual.  we got that message a long time ago.

Funny thing about paranoid delusions is that they can sometimes lead to violence, even homicide.

Thank goodness you are the precise opposite huh!

Lets see what the shrinks say about you!!

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Social Problems © 1983 University of California Press Abstract I examine pronoia, Fred Goldner's term for the delusion that others think well of one, in the light of current psychiatric nosology and psychodynamic theory. Pronoia is a form of denial that protects the fragile person's self-esteem from criticism and rejection. It can arise from persistently grandiose thinking in a narcissistic personality. Pronoid behavior can also occur in social structures where individuals are valued not for their interior feeling-life but only for their strategic roles in the larger organization. In contrast to the benevolent misperceptions of pronoia, the paranoid sees hostile forces in the world and weaves them into a satisfying conspiracy. Both pronoia and paranoia create an exaggerated sense of coherence from the chaos and confusion of the social world. Social organizations which accept individual failure and vulnerability can tolerate less of the false coherence of pronoia and paranoia, and so foster the growth of more accurate perception and more intimate interpersonal styles.


Of course, once our paranoid conspiracy theorists become violent, then they will be incarcerated, and once a professional evaluation is done, they would be institutionalized.  Of course, this means that they would be out of our hair and off our computer screens.  Even though I have them on ignore, it is annoying to see them show up in quotes.



and of course those who are suffering from pronoia already have their prison and as a result of their delusion happily welcome more!


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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 5:53:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, with all this, we are of course in the misinformation age, where the modus operandi seems to be the less anyone knows in this very public world, the better it is for those that fuck around behind the scenes, as lets face it, the internet has given us the conspiracy theorist who becomes that, through the sheep mentality.

A question though derived from another thread in this forum; if politicians have been found to lie, would you trust their words ever again?

But everyone has their own mind and their own way of seeing events, but of everyone, perhaps the question should be asked of the powerless populace; what are you; a sheep or a lion ?

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 6:12:11 PM   
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Well, I added Fellow to my ignore list, really surprising how many [insert derogatory phrase here] actually are conspiracy theorists.


Can you tell us which war the u.s. has been in that it did not start or insinuate itself into?

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 7:08:42 PM   
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Well, I added Fellow to my ignore list, really surprising how many [insert derogatory phrase here] actually are conspiracy theorists.


Can you tell us which war the u.s. has been in that it did not start or insinuate itself into?


Well, we did not start WW1, and were drawn into it by the German practice of unrestricted submarine warfare.

We did not start WW2, and were only drawn into it when the Japanese attacked us.

Korea was a UN war, which we did not start, and was only PART of the UN force deployed.

The war of 1812 was caused by the British press ganging AMERICAN citizens into the British Navy.


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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 9:01:20 PM   
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In truth, there is a psychological basis for the belief in conspiracy theories, beginning with paranoia.  It is well documented, just google "Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists."

I have started a number of threads on the subject in the past

Blah blah blah blah. It seems to me that you are trying to get Carthage destroyed by endlessly repeating your pseudoscience. Could you at least make a close-up of your beard, so that we may count the hairs? That would be less boring.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
In truth, there is a psychological basis for the belief in conspiracy theories, beginning with paranoia.  It is well documented, just google "Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists."

I have started a number of threads on the subject in the past, and hunk, RO, Rule and termy always prove the point.

Funny thing about paranoid delusions is that they can sometimes lead to violence, even homicide.

Of course, once our paranoid conspiracy theorists become violent, then they will be incarcerated, and once a professional evaluation is done, they would be institutionalized.  Of course, this means that they would be out of our hair and off our computer screens.  Even though I have them on ignore, it is annoying to see them show up in quotes.

Yet more aberrant ranting. It could be argued from this quote that you are threatening "violence, even homicide" against me. (Fortunately, it is unlikely that it will ever be argued that I suffer from a lack of paranoia. Q.E.D.)

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 10:18:08 PM   
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You forgot the proper meds part of that statement.

I'm beginning to wonder if such medication exists.  They're so far around the bend that I doubt any amount of pharmacological intervention could bring them anywhere near sanity.


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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 10:38:40 PM   
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Ba a a a a

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 10:44:16 PM   
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Just give them some of yours.

Ba a a a a

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everyone will beg for waterboarding instead

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/14/2011 11:54:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Can you tell us which war the u.s. has been in that it did not start or insinuate itself into? "

No, there are none and never have been.

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/15/2011 12:04:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Well, we did not start WW1, and were drawn into it by the German practice of unrestricted submarine warfare."

Bout the only one. 

"We did not start WW2, and were only drawn into it when the Japanese attacked us. "

We had embargos and shit going on and were fucking with them for years. We provoked them.

"Korea was a UN war, which we did not start, and was only PART of the UN force deployed. "

Not my fucking problem, The founding Fathers said to stay out of this shit, but you don't seem to fucking understand that.

"The war of 1812 was caused by the British press ganging AMERICAN citizens into the British Navy. "

Fucking kill them then. Be done with it. There is a time for war, so be it.

And in 1948 we opened the biggest can of worms ever. They said they could handle it, because we all knew that oil was the key to power. They were not up to the task and now we have this mess. The adversaries should have been wiped off the map decades ago yet this has not yet happened, and it was because not only those beneficiaries of our treaties were lazy, they were lazy on purpose to cause intercene strife.

I see no reason to go on because those who understand agree, and those who don't probably never will.

Forget it.

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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/15/2011 1:23:06 AM   
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Well, I added Fellow to my ignore list, really surprising how many [insert derogatory phrase here] actually are conspiracy theorists.


Can you tell us which war the u.s. has been in that it did not start or insinuate itself into?


Well, we did not start WW1, and were drawn into it by the German practice of unrestricted submarine warfare.

The germans put full page adds in american newspapers stating that they would sink ships carrying arms to england. Then they sunk the lusitania. The u.s. claimed that as provication. Not too long ago the lusitania was found and during the search of the wreckage it was found to have been carrying munitions...thus a legal target.
strike one

We did not start WW2, and were only drawn into it when the Japanese attacked us.

No less than the u.s. ambasador to japan told roosevelt of the impending attack and where it was comming. The u.s. had broken the japanese codes and knew where and when the attack was comming. the u.s. britain,china and the dutch had embargoed japan. Embargo is an act of war.
strike two

Korea was a UN war, which we did not start, and was only PART of the UN force deployed.

The u.n does what we tell it to do. If you were to actually look at the line that seperates n/s korea it is not a straight line but rather a line that is drawn to include the major source of tungsten for the u.s..
strike three

The war of 1812 was caused by the British press ganging AMERICAN citizens into the British Navy.

The u.s. declared war on england, not the other way round. There is overwhelming evidence that those sailors were britt not u.s. citizens. Then there is the little matter of the u.s. not living up to it's end of the treaty of paris which ended the revolutionary war.



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RE: 9/11 threat from al Qaeda operative intercepted, of... - 9/15/2011 11:20:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		it doesnt matter how many facts you throw in their faces tommorrow they will be out here screaming conspiracy theorist and ass wipe pretending they dont know any better.

Oh and that last one made it strike 4 btw!


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