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PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:01:55 AM   
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From American Thinker:

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At one point Mr. Obama made a major gaffe; he identified Abraham Lincoln as the founder of the Republican Party.

Lincoln did not join the Republicans until 1856, over two years after the party was founded. The first Republican convention was held in Ripon, Wisconsin in 1854. Such a gaffe would have brought huge amounts of ridicule and derision on George W. Bush, but in the case of Obama the media yawned.


Actually, they did more than yawn; government-funded PBS has altered the transcript of the President's speech, removing the offending comment. The New York Times transcript has the following quote:
"We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union.  Founder of the Republican Party.  But in the middle of a civil war, he was also a leader who looked to the future -- a Republican President who mobilized government to build the Transcontinental Railroad -- (applause) -- launch the National Academy of Sciences, set up the first land grant colleges.  (Applause.)  And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set."
But how does it appear in the PBS transcript?
"We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union.  But in the middle of a Civil War, he was also a leader who looked to the future - a Republican president who mobilized government to build the transcontinental railroad; launch the National Academy of Sciences; and set up the first land grant colleges.  And leaders of both parties have followed the example he set."
So PBS has purposely altered a transcript containing a major gaffe by the President. See a screen shot:




http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/09/pbs_alters_transcript_to_hide_obama_gaffe.html




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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:28:00 AM   
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I don't know how "major" a gaffe it was.  They happen.  Sometimes they are telling, sometimes just funny, and very often, the sort of dumb mistakes all humans make from time to time.  We do get the occasional doozie, but this...

Editing it out of the transcript raises the Orwell hackles.  Before we get going on that, was the text labeled "as delivered," or "as prepared?"   Dumb extemporaneous comments are only going to show up in the former.

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:40:34 AM   
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From what I am finding on the web, the gaffe was as delivered - he went off the prompter to lecture us, and didnt have his facts straight:

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Surprise! Media covers Lincoln gaffe



In yesterday’s OOTD, I noted that the President went off script to deliver a lecture on the origins of the Republican Party, only like so many lectures delivered by Barack Obama, it consisted of misinformation.  Don’t worry, though — the media is actually covering this gaffe.  For instance, Tom Maguire finds Time Magazine having to correct the record on Lincoln:

He gives a good speech, but he’s loose with the facts. He called Abraham Lincoln the “founder” of the Republican Party. Nope. Lincoln was not the founder of the party; he wasn’t even the first Republican nominee (John Fremont was, in 1856). Lincoln was, of course, the first Republican to be elected president.


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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:42:47 AM   
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Everyone makes mistakes. That's not nearly as bad as others, and I can understand wanting to change his information in regards to accuracy. 

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:43:27 AM   
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Weird.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/obamaspeech_09-08.html
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EDITOR'S NOTE: The original transcript provided on this page, as was noted, reflected the president's remarks as prepared for delivery and released by the White House. This transcript has been updated to reflect the remarks as delivered and released by the White House.

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We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. Founder of the Republican Party.


Seems the right wing hate media was stirring up shit over nothing as usual.

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:44:29 AM   
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Pull their funding!   DO IT

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 10:52:09 AM   
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If you want to talk about hate media, lets talk about the way the media blew every Bush gaffe out of proportion vs. the way they cover and hide Obamas gaffes

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Weird.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/obamaspeech_09-08.html
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EDITOR'S NOTE: The original transcript provided on this page, as was noted, reflected the president's remarks as prepared for delivery and released by the White House. This transcript has been updated to reflect the remarks as delivered and released by the White House.

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We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our Union. Founder of the Republican Party.


Seems the right wing hate media was stirring up shit over nothing as usual.


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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:02:34 AM   
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Listen up, shit for brains, there is a bias, deal with it!

Unfortunately you are apparently unable to unearth the facts when it is a right wing source that does the editing.

Do I really need to remind you how you thought that Hoffa jr's speech was complete in the fashion that Fox reported it?

You are a fucking idiot and a tool. A very dumb human being.

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:05:25 AM   
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Heh... another leftist, "I am dom, hear me prattle..."

Leftists typically debate like little children might, on their grade school playground.

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Listen up, shit for brains, there is a bias, deal with it!

Unfortunately you are apparently unable to unearth the facts when it is a right wing source that does the editing.

Do I really need to remind you how you thought that Hoffa jr's speech was complete in the fashion that Fox reported it?

You are a fucking idiot and a tool. A very dumb human being.


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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:08:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


If you want to talk about hate media, lets talk about the way the media blew every Bush gaffe out of proportion vs. the way they cover and hide Obamas gaffes

This wasn't a cover up. PBS posted the speech as written and the President apparently ad libbed. The PBS transcript has been corrected to reflect what he actually said.

Now back to the fact that the right wing hate media doesn't know the difference between an 'as written' transcript and 'as delivered' one.

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:14:39 AM   
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Try again, ken - from the same source -

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Update: Brian Birdnow adds:

Shocking, but not surprising!  B-Ho was also wrong on saying that Lincoln started the first land grant colleges.  Each state is in charge of its own educational institutions and most of the states entering the union after 1815 had designated state universities,with grants of land, in their state constitutions.  That is the reason that major state universities are in near the geographic center of their respective states, and not located in the major urban areas.

Update from Russell Cook:

It now says at the top of the transcript page now "EDITOR'S NOTE: The original transcript provided on this page, as was noted, reflected the president's remarks as prepared for delivery and released by the White House. This transcript has been updated to reflect the remarks as delivered and released by the White House."



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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:33:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Try again, ken - from the same source -

Update from Russell Cook:

It now says at the top of the transcript page now "EDITOR'S NOTE: The original transcript provided on this page, as was noted, reflected the president's remarks as prepared for delivery and released by the White House. This transcript has been updated to reflect the remarks as delivered and released by the White House."



Ken said
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

This wasn't a cover up. PBS posted the speech as written and the President apparently ad libbed. The PBS transcript has been corrected to reflect what he actually said.

Now back to the fact that the right wing hate media doesn't know the difference between an 'as written' transcript and 'as delivered' one.

what did Ken get wrong?


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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:38:12 AM   
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ken also said:

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Now back to the fact that the right wing hate media doesn't know the difference between an 'as written' transcript and 'as delivered' one.


ken "got wrong" the part where he was trying to disparage the source, they were quick to report PBS' "updating" their transcript



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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:43:01 AM   
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from american thinker??
of course they are eager to cover up "bias " and try to cover their arses to what PBS hadclarified
something you could take a lesson in, because you have not proved anything that you claimed.



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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 11:53:45 AM   
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They admit their bias, why would they try to cover it up?

Too bad PBS denies theirs (usually). They would be a better, more trustworthy source of information if they were more forthright about it more often

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from american thinker??
of course they are eager to cover up "bias " and try to cover their arses to what PBS hadclarified
something you could take a lesson in, because you have not proved anything that you claimed.




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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 12:22:01 PM   
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but they didnt admit bias, they clarified the difference between what was gonna be said and what was actually said, the pres ad libbed, OMG NO you mean he doesnt HAVE to read every word from a prepared speech on the teleprompter???

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 12:22:08 PM   
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So PBS changed one tiny thing, and you go off on it like gang busters. But when FOX News gets its story wrong on purpose, we NEVER see you speak a word of it. Now why is that Sanity? This is another one of those examples of "do as I say, dont do as I do" moments you typically have on these threads. That you hold liberals and Democrats to every tiny infraction on an hourly basis, while giving the conservatives and Republicans a free pass to wreck mayhem and havoc across the country. And THAT, Sanity, undermines your credibility.

BTW, how do you know that Abraham Lincoln WASN'T unoffically a member of the GOP two years before he became President? Were you actually on a first name basis with 'Ol Abe himself?

However, the President did give a copy of the speech to the Vice President and the Speaker of the House as is custom. If you had actually watched the whole speech, you would have seen this. Its likely that PBS got the transcript of the prepared speech and posted that. Nothing wrong with that. So the President created stuff on the spur of the moment. Better than what former President George W. Bush would have started with....

"When Ready, read the following: Hello and good evening to my fellow Americans...."

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 12:25:31 PM   
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I think when he said there were "57 states ("Pass this bill now!) three times in the same speech that would be much more "dumber?"
And he was REALLY dumb for hiring ("Pass this bill now!") Eric Holder!
Pardon me I'm having an outburst of tourette's syndrome.
Quite a revealing speech, if you had any doubts that he just doesn't know what he's doing.....

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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 12:34:13 PM   
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Yeah, one tiny thing.

And I addressed the Fox tape in the Hoffa thread joe, their questionable edit. I simply disagree with leftists on how evil the hated FOX News channel is...

Unlike so many leftists I dont feel that every media outlet should spread disinformation thats favorable to only the far left, as MSNBC and the New York Times, and CBS and CNN and PBS and Newsweek etc etc etc does

In my opinion, a little bit of balance is a good thing - even if the occasional mistake can be documented, I see no reason for you Stalinists to goose step into their studios and pull their plug

Ship them all off to reeducation camps or whatever

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So PBS changed one tiny thing, and you go off on it like gang busters. But when FOX News gets its story wrong on purpose, we NEVER see you speak a word of it. Now why is that Sanity? This is another one of those examples of "do as I say, dont do as I do" moments you typically have on these threads. That you hold liberals and Democrats to every tiny infraction on an hourly basis, while giving the conservatives and Republicans a free pass to wreck mayhem and havoc across the country. And THAT, Sanity, undermines your credibility.

BTW, how do you know that Abraham Lincoln WASN'T unoffically a member of the GOP two years before he became President? Were you actually on a first name basis with 'Ol Abe himself?


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RE: PBS alters transcript to hide Obama gaffe - 9/10/2011 12:39:14 PM   
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LMFAO there he goes again spouting off about something he knows fuck all about
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