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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/10/2011 7:47:27 AM   
Hisprettybaby


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ORIGINAL: SirRob7

The sub should definitely not. The Master shouldn't even place a demand as such.

That so-called Master is no "Master" anyway. He can't even master his own anger, which is obvious by his wanting her to kill herself and/or his wanting to whip her in a fit of rage. If he can't master himself, he shouldn't be mastering anyone else. rolls eyes

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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/11/2011 12:25:06 PM   
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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/11/2011 12:30:55 PM   
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If he can't master himself, he shouldn't be mastering anyone else. rolls eyes




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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/21/2011 2:40:17 PM   
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where have I read this before? Number one, nobody has the right to tell you to kill yourself, even if you "deserve it" in their view... the question is absurd

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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/22/2011 9:33:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mkma

But. What if all that was a consequence of that the sub _betrayed_ the Master's trust by meeting another Master without telling him, and then the sub decided to leave the relationship and finally told her Master what she had been doing behind his back. Should the sub go back to her ex-Master for a session to get her punish for it, the punish that she deserves for being deceitful so that the whole thing could get a closure?



Ok, I don't post that much on the boards and I really try not to be nasty when I do, but in this case I will make an exception. Are you fucking serious???

There are all sorts of reasons subs leave Dominants, and vice versa. And yes, some are done deceitfully and once in a while there is a legitimate reason for that deceit. I know from personal experience, and this is where this post gets difficult for me because my story will be out there for public consumption...

I entered this lifestyle about 10 years ago when I was very emotionally vulnerable. I met a man online who I thought was everything I needed. Met him in person, spent days and weeks at a time with him and finally moved in as his slave. I spent 3 years with that man, who was, I believe now, really off his fuckin rocker. He was a compulsive liar, an expert manipulator, emotional sadist, and a whole lot of other shitty things. I tried to be a good slave; I tried to be everything he wanted me to be, I soaked in all the shit he threw at me until I was slicing up my arms in an attempt to release the pain. I even tried going to a shrink... twice. But I couldn't even do that properly because he insisted on sitting next to me and refused to let me have a session alone. I finally left him to move in with another Dom. Yes, I did it deceitfully. It was the only way I could do it, as he would have never willingly let me go. There were only 2 people who knew what I was doing, and they were the ones helping me escape.

Now.. I know I was a dumbass to get involved with him in the first place. I ignored every single red flag that flapped in my face and I would have been ripped apart by people on these boards if I had ever posted about what was going on at the time. Hell, even after I left him, I was branded by "friends" as the most abhorent cunt for leaving such a wonderful man. There were very few people who would even consider my side of the story because he was such a loving, kind, incredible person and he was so devestated and lost, with no idea why I would treat him so horribly. Should the deceitful slut have been punished for leaving? Many thought so.

People leave relationships for a reason. Maybe this particular girl is a hosebag; if so, the ex-Master is better off without her. Maybe the ex-Master is a psycho behind closed doors and no one else knows. Maybe they just weren't compatible but she didn't know how to get out of it without someone having her back. It may sound cowardly, but sometimes people need that in order to feel safe. Does the ex-Master have a right to punish her? FUCK NO. She left, she will deal with why, and he needs to move the fuck on. As far as how the bdsm community sees her, that's up to them. If people want to know both sides of the story, they'll ask. If they want to judge her without asking, they will. Those who care will ask, and those who don't, don't matter.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 10/22/2011 4:30:55 PM   
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The sub is not in the "Masters" Ownership anymore. if she did go to another Master without permission then she's ruining her own reputation and if she left the original Master then that Master no longer has any rights to demand anything from her. She's gone, she's not his any more...there is nothing he can do about it. If she remained with the original Master then of course I'd say she'd have to face some sort of punishment but I'd hope that if he demanded she kill herself that she'd run and fast. That alone should end the relationship...the Master is obvious messed up to be demanding any such thing and I'd be worried for the next sub in his ownership...though personally I don't think a person like that should be considered a Master because he's not protecting the safety of his sub...

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RE: Dominant's rights - 11/4/2011 1:04:51 PM   
eroticsecret


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A contract with such a sub-clause may have such precedent, however, if there wasn't one, just drop it and get yourself a new sub, explain the why of what you want to do and she may let you punish her in that regard taking on your displeasure as both a way to please you and as a warning not to repeat the mistakes of others. But, ultimately, just let it go...

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