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Sick and wrong?


Nothing wrong. In fact, rape me please!
  19% (12)
No, it's cool. In fact, I think I might try it.
  4% (3)
Hey, if that's your thing, go for it.
  7% (5)
Just don't do it for real.
  60% (38)
Yes. Sick and wrong. But aren't we all?
  6% (4)
You should be locked away.
  1% (1)
People like you make the world a horrible place. I hope you die.
  0% (0)


Total Votes : 63
(last vote on : 11/7/2007 5:03:06 AM)
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Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 2:09:17 AM   
VandalHeart


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Status: offline 		I want honest opinions here, because I really started wondering about this when collarme removed it as one of it's interest options:

I like rape fantasies.  It is my fetish, I guess....even though fetishes involve objects and not situations, but that's beside the point.  I like to hear a girl crying and begging for me to stop.  How sick and wrong am I, and I really want to know, because if I need to suppress this, then I will.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 2:17:02 AM   
MsMacComb


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Status: offline 		Consent is always the operative word. If you have it, proceed. If you don't then yes its sick, wrong and illegal.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 2:21:07 AM   
VandalHeart


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Status: offline 		OK, to clarify, yes.  I only enjoy this in a fantasy capacity.

Just trying to keep the poll objective.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 3:07:17 AM   
Level


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Status: offline 		You sick bastard. *laughs*.......just kidding. Rape fantasies have been around for centuries, I believe. As stated, do it with consent and it's fine and fun.
 
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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 3:16:37 AM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		If you have a willing participant to enact your fantasy, no problem.  Jut make sure that you've discussed it THOROUGHLY and maybe repeatedly and that you trust this person completely.  It would be a bad thing indeed if she decided afterward that she really didn't mean it and turn you in for rape.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 3:41:19 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		feastie is right.  Make sure all parties know exactly what they are getting into.  IMO, many women have rape fantasies, but that's all they are...fantasies out of those stupid romance novels.  Rape isn't like that...there's no wealthy, handsome stranger who falls in love with you. 
So tread carefully and make sure that you and your partner discuss all aspects of the play.  You don't want anything to go wrong.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 3:49:31 AM   
VandalHeart


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Status: offline 		Oh, guys, trust me, I've run into a LOT of partners who are absolutely in love with the idea of trying it out and I have always made very, very, VERY, sure that they are mature enough to handle it before I even bring it up, let alone the detailed discussion and especially the actual scening.  I guess what I'm really asking here is this:  Do I have the right to tell people that "even if it is consentual it's wrong" to shut the hell up?  Do I really have the room to take moral high ground?

< Message edited by VandalHeart -- 5/22/2006 3:50:16 AM >

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:03:50 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Vandalheart, it's about you and your partner, not anyone else.  Yeah, tell them to shut up...after all, you're not trying to rape them, are you?  I don't see this as "high moral ground"...it's just play, like any other play.  Now, if you were to gang bang an unsuspecting partner, well, that's different.  But as long as you have discussed and agreed upon the basics and don't throw too many variations into the mix, it's all good :)

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:05:30 AM   
VandalHeart


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Status: offline 		Thank you, bandit.  That's pretty much what I wanted to hear.

Nobody else get discouraged, though.  I really need some input on this.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:06:22 AM   
Level


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Status: offline 		Yes, you have the right to tell them to shut up. No, they don't have to lol. Most people are going to think what they want to think, and no amount of reason will dislodge them, so maybe concentrate more of living your life with joy, and let the others stew in their own land-locked minds.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:08:12 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Good point, Level.  I learned a long time ago that it's pretty much impossible to persuade anyone else to your view unless theh hold your view in the first place.  Go have fun, VH and don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:24:26 AM   
VandalHeart


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Status: offline 		OK, as good as that advice is, what other people think is a little important to me right now.  The reason for this insanity (and yes, I know that it is insanity) is that this is one of the things that broke my marriage apart.  I know I'm fishing for compliments, and I know this is a little immature, but I could really use some honest reinforcement or honest condemnation, whatever, just as long as it's honest.  There is a certain line where "this is just the way I am" is no longer a valid explanation, and I am just trying to figure out whether I cross that line.  Unfortunately, the perception of morality is subjective, so I can't adequately self-diagnose, especially with my unorthodox philosiphies and codes of conduct.  I know freedom means responsibility, so I'm trying to be responsible and ask as many (admittedly biased, based on lifestyle choice) people whether or not this is something I can just say is "the way I am."

And just so you know, I'm not typing angrilly here.  I really do appreciate your support and welcome your kind words.  It means a lot.

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I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want. Just fear me, love me, do as I say, and I will be your slave.
--King Jarenth of the Goblins, Labyrinth

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:25:18 AM   
LL1aintbehavin


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Status: offline 		I believe that anything that is done and agreed upon between two consenting adults to bring them both pleasure is fine.  The rape fantasy is not about sex to me but power, in the physical form.  W/we have done the rape fantasy, and it has been a tremendous physical release for me, as it gives me the safe surroundings that i can struggle and fight against an overwhelming force.  There was an emotional and physical surrender when my energy was expelled and there was no fight left in me, and a wonderful sense of well being after.  i guess it is the feeling of my Dom taking from me what He desired and overpowering me on all levels.  May sound strange to some, but it gave U/us both something that W/we enjoyed and treasured.
To A/all that are considering it, as long as it is discussed beforehand in detail and the reasons behind examined it can be a wonderful experience.
This is just this sub's opinion on this subject.
aintbehavin

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:42:17 AM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		I have them. I agree that it's all about consent.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:43:39 AM   
FloridaISIS


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Status: offline 		Nothing sick or wrong about it. I think most women if they look deep down can say they've dreamed about being taken like that before, but as all pointed out  it needs to be consentual and well planned out. The sub needs to pretty much know exactly what s/he's in for. Give her as much detail as You can, and then don't deviate from what You've told her will come her way.

I'll take it a step further and say make sure s/he is emotionally ready for it. Some have past traumas and/or issues they are dealing with, and something like this may trigger them, and as You well know they may totally flip out emotionally and break down. Making sure this isn't the case is essential. Because once You unlock that flood gate for them, look out. The emotional toll could be truely devasting for them if they've been suppressing "whatever" issues it may be.
Just please be prepared for that scenario and make sure there's nothing in their past to haunt them, if you go ahead with this scene.

Hope this helps. This is My first post to the forum ever, and I hope it proves beneficial.

Peace and love, Isis

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:53:02 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		The majority of men and women have rape fantasies. As long as its totally consensual and spelled out before you play, its cool. If at any time during play she calls the safeword then stop, otherwise it may not be consensual anymore. In fact if its a person you haven't played with very much you may want to get something in writing? I don't know just watch your ass you don't want to get arrested. 

My male sub has a rape fantasy and we've discussed it. He was raped/tortured by knifepoint a few weeks back and he loved it  So be safe, have fun and tell those peeps who say its sick to fuck off. Thats what I do.

~Lashra

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:53:07 AM   
Raethepain


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Status: offline 		Your poll answer of "just don't do it for real" is the one. Find a consenting partner (god knows there are a lot of people who would!) and do it in a scene, by all means.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 4:56:27 AM   
SpankMuhButt


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Status: offline 		Well if you are sick and wrong then so am i,,,,,,,,but I happen to enjoy being on the recieving end.....would i want to be raped in real life by someone i dont know? of course not and if it ever did happen it might kill my rape fantasy...but I have done it with Doms i have been with and trusted and it was hot!

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 5:03:15 AM   
FloridaISIS


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

The majority of men and women have rape fantasies. As long as its totally consensual and spelled out before you play, its cool. If at any time during play she calls the safeword then stop, otherwise it may not be consensual anymore. In fact if its a person you haven't played with very much you may want to get something in writing? I don't know just watch your ass you don't want to get arrested. 

My male sub has a rape fantasy and we've discussed it. He was raped/tortured by knifepoint a few weeks back and he loved it  So be safe, have fun and tell those peeps who say its sick to fuck off. Thats what I do.

~Lashra


Lashra, You made some wonderful points, if they safeword then all plays stops immediately. Also, getting their consent in writing is a must.
Very valid points You made.

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RE: Sick and wrong? - 5/22/2006 5:05:42 AM   
Azk


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Status: offline 		I think id enjoy playing out a rape scene...

My god I never thought id write something like that

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