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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 3:59:05 AM   
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soooooooooo...........person beneath me........... Burger King or McDonalds?

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:00:19 AM   
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Ha! Level, you are so funny. McDonald's!

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:02:05 AM   
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 heh heh Susan, thank you. McDs huh? I love their fish sandwiches.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:08:43 AM   
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I love those, too. I also love the double (as in two) cheeseburger "Value meal".

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:15:23 AM   
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I love those, too. I also love the double (as in two) cheeseburger "Value meal".

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Our local one took all the burgers off of their value meal, those heartless fools lol.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:17:44 AM   
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Man, what a mistake! That is just weird! I sure do love their cheeseburgers....

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:21:01 AM   
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Man, what a mistake! That is just weird! I sure do love their cheeseburgers....

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If you and nefe hadn't burned up my credit cards on underwear, I could have treated you to one
 


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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:24:52 AM   
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personally I dont have a problem with an overweight sub to a point after all Im not sporting a six  pack stomach but I do not wish to be with a sub who is severly overweight. I am trying to get myself in shape and hope that I find a sub with the same interest. but when a sub is 5'6" and weighs 300lbs that is just way to overweight for me. I have to be honest

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:26:40 AM   
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Level: I am sorry. I owe you a Fish sandwich. Plus a Big Mac and some onion rings. Thanks for all the lingerie!

In fact, I'll throw in my two cheeseburgers, too. Because if I eat too many, nobody might want to see me in my lingerie.... 

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:38:27 AM   
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Level: I am sorry. I owe you a Fish sandwich. Plus a Big Mac and some onion rings. Thanks for all the lingerie!

In fact, I'll throw in my two cheeseburgers, too. Because if I eat too many, nobody might want to see me in my lingerie.... 

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I think the line will stay long for a peek at you, good lady. Time for work, everyone be well.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 4:44:10 AM   
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Hope you have a good day, Level!

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 5:48:11 AM   
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Hi Rose,
 
Good on you for having the guts to ask a question many won’t in case its not PC.
I’m not overweight myself, (well technically I’m not overweight at all.) But I used to be a 12 ½ % fat 9 ½ st gymnast, so you could say that by my standards I’m a fair bit plumper than I’d like to be. (not heavier, just plumper.)
 
To everyone who took this as an attack – I don’t think she meant it that way. It sounds more like someone with some problems with her own body image trying to understand some more about how others feel about theirs –if you’re happy with your shape I didn’t notice her saying she had anything against you, its only her personal opinion… Beauty *is* in the eye of the beholder and a lot of people find it hard to see it in themselves. If people want to get themselves fitter and lose weight, that’s their right just as much as it’s the right of those who like themselves bigger to stay big.
 
You probably need to think about the self esteem and the weight separately as well as together, they might not be tied in a closely as you think, on the other hand, they might be even more related than you think – maybe you need to sort out the self esteem before you can lose the weight.
 
Can I ask how any sub / slave can look in the mirror and be pleased with themselves being that way?
Look at the good bits – what you like about yourself! From a personal perspective I like myself as a person, but I’m not 100% satisfied with the mirror. I would love to get myself in better shape, but I can look in the mirror and see potential if I can find the time and motivation to push myself a bit more when it comes to diet & exercise. I’ve been putting so much effort into my work life, other people etc, recently that I’ve not had time for myself. A lot of subs like to serve, maybe many spend too much time paying attention to others and not enough to themselves.

How do the Dom's/Domme's feel about there overweight sub/slaves?
Not being a Dom, and not having one, I can’t really help a great deal. I’m sure its all personal taste and opinion. My ex Dom used to compliment me a lot when I succeeded in keeping fit and letting me know he appreciated it, it did help, so I can imagine he preferred me slim. I like a Dom to be happy with me as I am (personality) but as far as physical weight goes, I’d rather he prefer a slim sub and take a few pounds off me than prefer me curvier as it wouldn’t be good for my health or my self esteem.

Or how do You feel seeing other ones like that?
If people are happy with their weight, that’s one good thing, but then there’s health to think about. There are a lot of big girls in the scene, and I worry about the health of other subbie friends who are overweight but it is up to them. Then again when it isn’t and they would love to lose weight but can’t find the motivation I’m always happy to help.

Isn't health issues a major concern?
Not for me in the big sense as I’m only a little plumper than I should be, but health issues are still a concern as my strength and flexibility could do with some attention, and after doing gymnastics and getting the sort of injuries you often get in competition its really important to keep things up properly, or it can cause problems. In the bigger sense, health issues *should* really be a concern to everyone. Even if someone likes them self curvier it’s possible to keep curves at the same time as keeping fit if you want to.
 
I think overweight girls are more accepted in the scene than they are in everyday life so perhaps “coming out” into the scene for overweight subs is easier than it is for non-overweight girls. Also BDSM isn’t yet really accepted as a sexuality, and isn’t really discussed, people can become confused about whether they’re odd or perverted in a negative context and then comfort eat when they can’t talk about it.
 
The other thing is people are just getting bigger in general. Its easy to get fat, no one has the time to exercise and the nearest piece of fast food is no more than a quick drive away and there’s so much rubbish going round about what a healthy diet really is or isn’t. Everyone is on all the latest fads, and none of them work. The truth is everyone’s body is different and what works for one person might not be good for the next… well I’ll shut up now before I diverge too far from the point into nutrition… some are happy with it, others aren’t.
 
What does worry me though is that you said your Master "hates fat people". Did you mean that, or that he doesn't find overweight girls as attractive as slim ones? If he really does hate fat people he is judging people by their appearance alone, so please be careful.
 
Good luck to everyone trying to get in shape and to those who are happy as they are!

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 6:24:13 AM   
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Wow, this was a risier post by rose. I havent actually counted the weight of the people on this site, but Ill take her word that the magority are overweight to some extent.

If someone is healthy, I feel they shouldn't give in to our powerful mass media. However, some people are puttting themselves in bad positions by being overweight. I know I feel like I'm dragging, or blaoted if I add say 10 lbs of fat quickly.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 6:31:28 AM   
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Oh my Gawd, Rose....
Your thoughts have sure generated a lot of controversy. As much as I hate to admit it, I so relate to much of what you had to say. I have NO problem with overweight people. My best friend weighs about 275 lbs and I happen to love and adore her. I see her as beautiful! And.. I have also been attracted to heavy men. Yet.... with myself? I have some serious body issues. I have, by my estimation, approximately 30 lbs to lose. I dont want to sound like I am tooting my own horn, but I dont lack for attention, and I am told regularly that I am a beautiful woman (unfortunately, not by the man I am  married to).  My immediate reaction to those comments is, "Well.. yeah, but you should see me without my clothes on!! THEN, you wouldnt say that!". I dont know what happenned to me to make me feel this way, but its very deeply engrained. My current man friend has been very supportive with my feelings, and we are working on trying to change my self image. I wish I could afford myself the same appreciation that I give to others. In time, I hope.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 10:40:35 AM   
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For some of us it is not a choice there is nothing that i can do about my weight as it is a medical issue as some of you know i had a brain tumor and this (my weight) is an after effect i am a VERY active person i go to the gym everyday and take my kids to the park everysecond day i am camping and hiking and quading every weekend i am not happy with the way i look but you know what it is who i am and i dont care what others think as long as my Master is happy that is all that matters so when you ask why some of us are over weight take in to consideration that for some of us it is not a choice it is just the way we were ment to be lol there is my two cents

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 11:12:59 AM   
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I look at it as a Health problem.
Human beings were just not meant to carry a lot of extra weight around with them.
If you're a female and are 5'0" tall you should "ideally" weigh between 95 and 110 lbs. If you're at 150 lbs you're 50% overweight.
For a 6'0" male you should "ideally" weigh 190-210 lbs.
If I put on 20 extra pounds I just feel like shit and my clothes don't fit right.

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 11:28:16 AM   
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I look at it as a Health problem.
Human beings were just not meant to carry a lot of extra weight around with them.
If you're a female and are 5'0" tall you should "ideally" weigh between 95 and 110 lbs. If you're at 150 lbs you're 50% overweight.
For a 6'0" male you should "ideally" weigh 190-210 lbs.
If I put on 20 extra pounds I just feel like shit and my clothes don't fit right.


Actually I have to disagree since some people have much stronger/heavier bones than others, and are therefore heavier than perhaps the average slim-john. Personally I do take care of my body and I do think about  what I eat occasionally but I'm not obsessed with it though. I rock between 105 and 110lbs and I am happy with my weight because if I am heavier I just..don't feel right, on the other hand some people that are nearly the same height as I weight around 133 lbs and in my opinion are not overweight at all, I think it really depends on the bones, your figure, and how you see yourself. And when it comes to ..ok I don't know how to put it differently..but like ok pensioners..I mean..e.g. your granny, personally I think grandmas aint supposed to be so skinny that they're just falling apart. When you get older the skin changes and if you're thin you might just end up veeeeeery wrinkly and just..shrunken but then if you got a bit of "meat" on yourself then you age..better or that's my opinion.
Personally I think this 5'0 95-110 and 6'0 max 210lbs  I think these figures are rather..harsh
you can't say that a person who's born.."massive" is the same weight as a person who's naturally slimmer even though they're both, lets say 200lbs. You simply can't compare them using the same scales.

When I was younger at preschool we went every year to the schoolnurse and she weighted us and did the whole thing, I was always far under average I just couldn't help it, to fit in the "ideal" scale I had to gain 22lbs and that's the way it was my whole preschool. I couldn't help it, I ate I did everything that other normal kids did, my figure was simply slimmer. So in my opinion, what is ideal and what isn't it is just plain bullshit, each person is different and this "ideal" system should be a lot more flexible. Despite this I´m not saying that people can´t have health issues but being curvy or  something like that is not a health issue.


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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 1:21:52 PM   
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I cannot believe this post is still going. Thank you Aall for the replies. Even the ones who took it all wrong. I was NOT ATTACKING anyone. Just asking a simple question. It has been over 3 months since I started this post. All I can say is WOW!!!
 
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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 7:23:32 PM   
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There are subs of all shapes and sizes.  It's a wonderful thing!

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RE: subs and slaves weight? - 8/22/2006 7:45:11 PM   
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I was overweight when I met my Master. About a year ago, I went on an extreme diet and lost 65 pounds. I did some fetish modeling then and still I wasn't satisfied with my figure. Later, I gained most of that weight back. I look at those pictures and realise that I was NOT fat...I was pretty sexy.

Master is working with me to get over my 'self-loathing' as he calls it. I'm also working on losing weight.

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