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Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinations ... - 9/20/2011 6:25:23 AM   
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Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinations of children without parental consent about to become law in California Natural News | California’s Assembly Bill 499 has already quietly passed both the California House and Senate.//
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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 6:49:05 AM   
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If they are able to consent for an abortion with out their parents, why not a vaccine?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 8:15:51 AM   
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You don't feel that if a child's parents are conspiracy nuts who'd be quite happy to see them get polio or smallpox rather than take a vaccine serum with a mind control component in it, that child has a right to get any shots they fancy on their own initiative?

Or is it only a matter of rights if it's you and your pal in a burqa insisting that hospital employees have a right to spread this year's 'flu through their workplace?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 8:23:14 AM   
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You don't feel that if a child's parents are conspiracy nuts who'd be quite happy to see them get polio or smallpox rather than take a vaccine serum with a mind control component in it, that child has a right to get any shots they fancy on their own initiative?

Or is it only a matter of rights if it's you and your pal in a burqa insisting that hospital employees have a right to spread this year's 'flu through their workplace?


With out parents consent?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 8:35:08 AM   
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LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 499, Atkins. Minors: medical care: consent.
Existing law allows minors to consent to specified forms of
medical or dental treatment.
This bill would, in addition, allow a minor who is 12 years of age
or older to consent to medical care related to the prevention of a
sexually transmitted disease.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 6926 of the Family Code is amended to read:
6926. (a) A minor who is 12 years of age or older and who may
have come into contact with an infectious, contagious, or
communicable disease may consent to medical care related to the
diagnosis or treatment of the disease, if the disease or condition is
one that is required by law or regulation adopted pursuant to law to
be reported to the local health officer, or is a related sexually
transmitted disease, as may be determined by the State Public Health
Officer.
(b) A minor who is 12 years of age or older may consent to medical
care related to the prevention of a sexually transmitted disease.
(c) The minor's parents or guardian are not liable for payment for
medical care provided pursuant to this section.


http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0451-0500/ab_499_bill_20110902_enrolled.html



DIGEST : This bill authorizes a minor, who is 12 years of
age or older, to consent to medical care related to the
prevention of a sexually transmitted disease.

ANALYSIS : Existing law provides that a minor who is 12
years of age or older who might have come into contact with
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AB 499
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a contagious, infectious, or
communicable disease may consent to medical care related to
the diagnosis or treatment of that disease if the disease
or condition is one that is required by law to be reported
to the local health officer, or is a sexually transmitted
disease as determined by the Director of the Department of
Health Services. (Family Code Section 6926 (a))

Existing law provides that the parents of a minor who has
consented to medical treatment for a communicable or
sexually transmitted disease are not liable for payment for
that care. (Family Code Section 6926 (b))

Existing law provides that a minor may consent to medical
care related to the prevention or treatment of pregnancy.
(Family Code Section 6925 (a))

Existing law provides that a minor's consent under minor
consent statutes cannot be subject to disaffirmance because
of minority. (Family Code Section 6921)

Existing law provides that a minor who is 12 years old or
older who is alleged to have been raped may consent to
diagnosis and treatment of that condition. (Family Code
Section 6927)

Existing law allows a minor alleged to have been sexually
assaulted to consent to medical care related to the
diagnosis and treatment of that condition. (Family Code
Section 6928 (b))

Existing law allows a minor to consent to medical care
related to the diagnosis or treatment of a drug or
alcohol-related problem. (Family Code Section 6929 (b))

Existing law provides that a minor may consent to medical
or dental care if that minor is over the age of 15, living
separate and apart from his or her parents whether with or
without his/her parents' consent, and managing his or her
own financial affairs. (Family Code Section 6922 (c))

This bill authorizes a minor, who is 12 years of age or
older, to consent to medical care related to the prevention
of a sexually transmitted disease.


http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0451-0500/ab_499_cfa_20110829_130925_sen_floor.html

The bill changes the age from 15 to 12.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 8:35:34 AM   
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Yes, without parents' consent if the parents are going to refuse permission.
Or do you have no issue with kids being denied blood transfusions or insulin over their parents' objections, either?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:01:09 AM   
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California’s Assembly Bill 499 has already quietly passed both the California House and Senate.//


Ummmmm yeah... and that'll always happen while you health store fans race out and "Tell All The People" in places like this instead of hounding the website of a major tv network. Good work Hunky... You got us the information albeit late. And to folks not from California... all five of em.



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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:06:57 AM   
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LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST
AB 499, Atkins. Minors: medical care: consent.


Thanks Tazzy... nice to see someone breathing air on a hunky thread... did ya notice how R1 infected hunky with "natural news"?

No vaccine for tag-along-syndrome


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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:13:02 AM   
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suck my dick. 

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:16:56 AM   
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So many people scream that the states should be making the laws and not the federal government, then a state makes a law and he same people start screaming abou the unconstitutionality of such a law... how the state is taking over personal rights... ect ect ect.

I wish they would make up their damn minds.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:27:49 AM   
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What happened to personal choice?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:29:02 AM   
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suck my dick.


I thought that was what the Muppet was for


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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:31:13 AM   
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So many people scream that the states should be making the laws and not the federal government, then a state makes a law and he same people start screaming abou the unconstitutionality of such a law... how the state is taking over personal rights... ect ect ect.


Yeah, they want cake and eat it too... Just thank god the good people who read "Natural News" are on it!


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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:33:42 AM   
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What happened to personal choice?


This is personal choice... the choice of the child to govern their own health when the adults in charge refuse too.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:39:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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What happened to personal choice?


This is personal choice... the choice of the child to govern their own health when the adults in charge refuse too.


Isn't it actually whether or not adults in charge refuse to? May be wrong, but didn't see anything related to parental units except not being liable for payment.


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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:41:05 AM   
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And since a minor cannot enter into a contract making them liable for medical expenses, the law wont be used willy nilly.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 10:59:32 AM   
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And since a minor cannot enter into a contract making them liable for medical expenses, the law wont be used willy nilly.


So in other words, yes. The law of personal choice abrogates the rights of parents. I imagine that's especially important with sexually transmitted diseases since it's mentioned several times. Cuz omg we can't have mom and dad know suzy got laid and got the crabs.

That would be truly horrendous and unduly difficult upon such a young and tender mind.

You know I can see it based upon the argument that if idiot parents refuse to get their children treatment, they should be able to get it themselves. I'd be curious to know exactly how many cases that services however. Where I can see it most is with deadbeat parents who don't want to pay the bill.


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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 11:51:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

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What happened to personal choice?


This is personal choice... the choice of the child to govern their own health when the adults in charge refuse too.


Can we just manumit them and send them off to work then?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 12:05:32 PM   
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What IS truly horrendous and unduly difficult is the 12 year old who gets beat for admitting to mom and dad that she had sex and now has a sexually transmitted disease. Lets not forget those who have no parents... I do believe they are termed run-a-ways.

In 1991, Treloar et al18 conducted a survey on the use of emergency services by unaccompanied minors and found that approximately 2% to 3% of all children seeking treatment in the ED were not accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. The article goes on to agree that its likely risen with the increase of both single parent households and both parents working.

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;111/3/703

California recently made it much easier for teens to seek mental health treatment on their own. In a landmark bill proposed by State Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) and signed into law by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on September 30, SB 543 gives adolescents between the ages of 12 and 17 the ability to consent to their own counseling, provided their therapists deem them mature enough to participate in their own healthcare and notification to parents would put them at risk.

http://sparkaction.org/content/california-teens-given-right-consent-their

I dont see an uproar over this.


APOPKA, Fla. -- An Apopka man accused of shooting a teen that he caught having sex with his stepdaughter will not be allowed to bond out of jail. Wade Edwards is facing second-degree attempted murder charges after he caught the couple in the act.

http://www.wftv.com/orangecounty/21311214/detail.html

I couldnt imagine the girl telling this man she had a std.

But thats not the point in this law. The point is to fill in the gaps that those minors fall into when a parent (a) isnt available, (b) doesnt care, (c) isnt in the picture at all.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 12:06:40 PM   
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Can we just manumit them and send them off to work then?


Advocating sweat shops for children?

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