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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 7:34:28 AM   
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I think it's pretty clear that the buzz here is more about force than obeying than would occur in a lot of D/s situations, Roch. Obviously, some force is involved otherwise chastity devices wouldn't have locks on them at all. The OP and/or her sub want more of it, is all.


Yeah, I get that now.  From her answer, they clearly enjoy the force aspect.  It's just a very different way of thinking for me.  I take great pride in being very obedient.  I feel bad if my Domme isn't completely pleased with my execution of her commands. 

But when I look at it from the perspective that you described, then it makes sense.  So I guess that they'll want the biggest lock they can find that's not completely unwieldy.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 7:54:34 AM   
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I just need more info on what the specific type of lock is. best I can come up with is combo or padlock, just not sure of the best size and brand.

I can't be the first person to ever need to locate a more secure lock for a chastity belt, so it's amazing that nobody (as of yet) knows of any specific brands and more reliable locks to reference. ie: if he fiddles with it, I wouldn't want him to simply fiddle it off. And yes, he wants me to have more control instead of less control. This way, he has less power to decide over his own fate. If I put him in a cheaper lock for the device, it will very likely be more enticing for him to tamper with to test it and see if it's removable. More control is better in this scenario.



Okay, let me give this one more try.  You definitely need a lock with a key.  A combination lock will be too big.  It won't fit the device.  Moreover, combination locks are unsafe.  People forget the combinations to locks all the time (I'm not saying that YOU will.  But it's a very common occurrence).  Key locks always come with spare keys.  So even if you lose a key, you'll always have a backup.  Also, any locksmith can open a key lock in a matter of seconds if you lose both keys.  A combination lock is another matter altogether.

The brand of lock doesn't matter.  Any commercial lock that fits will be fine.

The opening for most chastity devices is rather small, so you won't be able to use a big, secure lock like you might use on a storage unit or a school locker.  But other than the illusion of force, the bigger locks will provide no greater security.  Your sub won't be able to break the metal locks that typically come with the device.  He can "fiddle with it", but it won't break. 

Of course, those plastic locks can be broken, but if he breaks it, you'll know it and will be able to punish him accordingly.

Finally, I've never known of a sub who went to a locksmith to help him remove a lock on a chastity device.  Doing so would be incredibly embarrassing

One other factor that you'll want to consider is when he'll be wearing the device.  If you want him to wear it when he's away from you, then a smaller lock will actually be better.  Chastity devices can be bulky and leave a noticeable bulge in his pants.  A big lock will multiply the problem.  So a smaller lock is actually better (even though it reduces the sense of "force").

Finally, since it sounds like this is new to both of you, I recommend that he wear pleated pants when he's in chastity.  Pleated pants provide more room in the front to make the device (and lock) less visible. 

Hope that helps.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:05:17 AM   
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But having said that, buying a lock for a chastity device is pretty easy.  Take the device to Home Depot or Lowes.  There's almost no customer service in those stores, so you can see if various locks will work, and it's highly unlikely that a sales person will bother you.


I don't like the inference of your entire answer. PeonForHer is spot on with his responses.

But Roch, you are a guy, and not as perty as I am. Just a thought, but I get followed no matter what stores I go into (both by customer service _and_ by customers), unless I am dressed like a freakin hobo, and in that case, mexicans follow me around and compliment me on my damned PJs.

The point is, I'm not a people person. I'd rather not walk into any store and be followed around by and/or gawked at by lessers.

If anyone has looked at these chastity belts, they would see that not just any lock would fit. These take more thin locks and I have little luck seeking out what subby is thinking would be most reasonable.

So more secure lock + it's gotta fit right + I would greatly appreciate it if we don't tell me I need to be around lesser people because I just don't want (or need) that crap right now. And it's kind of you to assume that I can get through a store without being an employee magnet. Stores with more testosterone than progesterone tend to cause me to be inundated with "help."


Seriously? Any good domina that can't handle store employees, testosterone or not and tell them to back off, go away, you will call them when you want their assistance, isn't worth much. Women far cuter than you do it all the time.

You go into public with an attitude like your own, thinking people are lesser than you are... they may not be sniffing out the pussy, but more like wanting to kick your ass.


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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:13:38 AM   
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The point is, I'm not a people person. I'd rather not walk into any store and be followed around by and/or gawked at by lessers.

I would greatly appreciate it if we don't tell me I need to be around lesser people because I just don't want (or need) that crap right now.


There's a very easy solution to that problem.  Order your sub to go buy the biggest, most secure lock that will fit the device.  That way, you get to give him yet another order, and you also avoid having to go shopping.

See, wasn't that simple?  

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:16:43 AM   
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Seriously? Any good domina that can't handle store employees, testosterone or not and tell them to back off, go away, you will call them when you want their assistance, isn't worth much. Women far cuter than you do it all the time.


Didja ever take the time to provide advice to 'lesser people' , and then regretted every wasted keystroke?

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:18:19 AM   
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Roch... you are far, far nicer than I am! Someone comes here and is disrespectful to you and others and acts like she is all that... you are surely the better person than I am to answer her repeatedly.

I don't give a shit what her force games are with a submissive... playing the act here brings out the bitchy domina wench in me. Or would that be the snarky domina wench?




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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:19:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

Word!
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ORIGINAL: Lockit
Seriously? Any good domina that can't handle store employees, testosterone or not and tell them to back off, go away, you will call them when you want their assistance, isn't worth much. Women far cuter than you do it all the time.


Didja ever take the time to provide advice to 'lesser people' , and then regretted every wasted keystroke?


ROFL!


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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:29:05 AM   
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Roch... you are far, far nicer than I am! Someone comes here and is disrespectful to you and others and acts like she is all that... you are surely the better person than I am to answer her repeatedly.



Thanks, Lockit.

Chastity happens to be one of my favorite kinks.  I like to believe that I'm one of the resident experts on the topic.  I've tried most of the device types out there.  I know the problems that go with most of them.  So when someone comes on here and asks a chastity question, I'm always happy to share my experience.

The OP is not the only one who will read my reply.  Someone else will have a similar question in the future, and when they do a search, my response will come up.

So I don't really worry about if someone disrespects me or not.  I'm writing answers for anyone who happens to read the thread, not just for the OP.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:39:57 AM   
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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:43:12 AM   
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Like I said Roch... you are a far better person than I am.

All I saw was a disrespectful broad that thinks she is all that, spreading racist comments in a sense of projecting that Mexican's like skanks.

I will try to see the bigger picture... in another thread.


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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 8:43:38 AM   
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Inorite?? He is the awesome.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 9:26:56 AM   
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I used a small Masterlock padlock on my former sub's CB6000. It had two keys and I had one of them and my own Dom had the other one, in case I couldn't be located in an emergency. But my sub ran away and then he removed it himself. Some of this is really going to be a matter of trust. I suppose you could, like some others have said, use some kind of "seal" so you'd know if it was tampered with just by looking at it.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 9:36:32 AM   
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I can't be the first person to ever need to locate a more secure lock for a chastity belt, so it's amazing that nobody (as of yet) knows of any specific brands and more reliable locks to reference.

No, you're not the first and the answer to your question is, there isn't one.  Locks that are small enough to be used in a chastity device are inherently insecure and there is just no way around that.  Even the "better" locks of that size only have 3 or 4 pins in them and most can be raked open within seconds by anyone with even a shred of ability or mechanical aptitude.

The best solution I've seen are the single-use plastic security tags.  They don't offer the highest security as they can be easily removed, but if it's tampered with or broken, it's easily recognizable.


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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 9:50:59 AM   
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a seal yes. HE wants something more secure, not necessarily me. I personally can't imagine trying to pry one off with wire cutters without tears skin. Just a thought on that.

Now, so far as what I was referring to: the size of the loop is the thing that I'm wondering about. Does anyone know of specific locks (and the names of said locks) that might fit a chastity belt's lock holes, such as the "sentinal" and a CB2000-CB6000.

Ok, I hate repeating myself, but I do not want to have to go around town asking stores if they have a decent lock that fits this here cock restraint.




Look at the Lori tubes. They require exact measurements and they are expensive but the locks virtually can not be defeated. Though I would try the much cheaper cb first to get an idea of the measurements and whether that type of device is going to work for you.


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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 9:53:15 AM   
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Look honey it seems to me that this guy is playing you. Ask yourself do you really want a male servant or female servant for that matter who is trying to disobey You, just forget about the chastity device for the moment, thats not the point , the point is this guy is looking for a chance to disobey You, he is an adult, and if he is like this with You now , it shows You or should show You that he is not going to be a good servant always looking for ways out, its not a tighter chastity lock he needs its a boot in the ass and the bum's rush. Honey if he is going to play these games with You , Your best shut of him , either that or he is wanting to risk his own safety by not being able to open the chastity device in an emergency, this is a RED flag or should be for you. This guy needs psychiatric evaluation, take him to the hospital or get shut of him. Do one or the other , if he doesnt want to get professional help, if he refuses to go to hospital , show him the door, this guy is a CREEP with a Capital C
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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 11:14:39 AM   
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Oh my gosh, Kevin, that "oh honey" stuff had me falling about!! Thank you for the lulz!! And I personally agree about the obedience aspect, but then that's my main fetish--if I wanted to "lock" someone up a nice bow would be just fine thank you.

For some the idea of being totally locked away with "no way out" is very exciting.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 12:10:49 PM   
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Master Locks makes several small locks that will fit the opening of the CB2000, CB3000 & CB6000 chastity devices. These are typically used as locks for luggage when traveling thus they are designed for keeping "valuables" safe & secure. I have seen these small locks at many stores including Home Depot and Lowes and it is not difficult to judge which size will fit. If in doubt buy a few different sizes and return the locks that don't work.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 12:11:15 PM   
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And I personally agree about the obedience aspect, but then that's my main fetish--if I wanted to "lock" someone up a nice bow would be just fine thank you.

For some the idea of being totally locked away with "no way out" is very exciting.



I wouldn't care, personally. It's all pretty horny to me. Too horny, maybe. I think I'd be doing well not to have smashed the lock within twelve hours so that I could crack off a Niagara, though. Whew!

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 12:12:58 PM   
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While locking someone up is just incredibly, bone meltingly HOT, the fun is sending them off on errands or whatever and calling them up with exciting commentary. Heh.

I can't imagine locking anyone up for a long time, it would make ME bonkers.

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RE: ideas on locks for male chastity belts - 9/23/2011 12:21:53 PM   
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While locking someone up is just incredibly, bone meltingly HOT, the fun is sending them off on errands or whatever and calling them up with exciting commentary. Heh.

I can't imagine locking anyone up for a long time, it would make ME bonkers.


My way of getting rid of an embarrassing stiffy is to start doing arithmetic in my head. Instant drooper. I don't know if it'd work against that level of attack, though. As for, ahem, servicing her in bed with lips and tongue . . . God alone knows. I think I'd have to do arithmetic *and* immediately start lifting heavy weights. Or chop off my goolies.

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