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Owner59 -> cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 7:24:49 AM)
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/09/congress-girds-government-shutdown-sequel/42858/ Congress Girds for a Government Shutdown Sequel There's no threat of government shutdown," House Speaker John Boehner said last night, a sentiment that doesn't seem so comforting Friday morning. The Republican-controlled House did pass a disaster relief bill by a thin 219-203 margin last night that included $3.65 million dollars to help refill the coffers of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, The Los Angeles Times wrote. But it also included what the paper colorfully described as a "poison pill" of provisions that Harry Reid and Senate Democrats would never go for. Things like, as the paper reports, taking "$1.5 billion from a green vehicle program that Democrats champion as a job creator" and "$100 million from an Energy Department account" that loaned money to the bankrupt solar-company Solyndra to send a message. Meanwhile..... http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20110922/NEWS01/109220426/Congressional-logjam-continues-over-disaster-aid?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE "Republicans want to offset the cost of restocking FEMA's Disaster Relief Fund by cutting spending elsewhere in the federal budget." Again,forcing their extreme agenda on us by holding a gun to our heads. This time,folk`s disaster relief. This,is what republicans call leadership? What a bunch of clowns.

Aylee -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 7:52:06 AM)
Perhaps you forget that the Senate is Dem controlled. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehner-tries-to-give-house-gop-conservatives-a-lesson-in-spending-fight/2011/09/22/gIQA0XM5oK_story.html?hpid=z1 quote: Washington lurched toward another potential government shutdown crisis Friday, as the House approved by a 219-203 vote a GOP-authored short-term funding measure designed to keep the government running through Nov. 18 and Democrats in the Senate immediately vowed to reject the bill.

mnottertail -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 7:55:37 AM)
NO, I think that's right in his citation. (Senate, A) LOL. Color me spelling police, I guess.

Aylee -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 8:01:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail NO, I think that's right in his citation. (Senate, A) LOL. Color me spelling police, I guess. I have no idea what you are talking about. (complete innocent look) [:D] What color are the spelling police? (There has GOT to be a way to make a pun of this.)

RacerJim -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 8:05:52 AM)
"We Won" "Elections have consequences." "They [Republicans] are welcome to come along for the ride but they have to sit in the back." What goes around comes around. What a bunch of hypocritical cry babies.

slvemike4u -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 8:18:04 AM)
Yes elections have consequences...we are now witnessing the consequence of sending a bunch of extremist assholes to Washington(tea bag ideological idiots) to do serious work [&o]

StrangerThan -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 9:29:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Yes elections have consequences...we are now witnessing the consequence of sending a bunch of extremist assholes to Washington(tea bag ideological idiots) to do serious work [&o] As opposed to leaving the stupid and extremists assholes in office who got us where we are in the first place. Tellin ya mike, if the US doesn't learn some fiscal responsibility soon, we're going to be face first into a wall with no options. Look around the world. We're not the only ones, and those being forced to fix it are not happy.

tazzygirl -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 9:49:05 AM)
Where were the spending cuts in the 2008 bill?

slvemike4u -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 9:49:22 AM)
And just who would you be suggesting are those "stupid and extremist assholes"? In addition let me ask you this question...the Republican tea party and Grover pledgeists hold to the line that raising taxes in a recession is a no no.....how is it that it is a good idea to slash gov.spending during that same recession?

housesub4you -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 10:01:21 AM)
Where was all this fiscal concern 4, 6 or 8 years ago? They never cared about fiscal concern when they raised the debt all those times, they never passed a balanced budget act when they where in control, never in the history of our country held back aid to the American people for disaster relief...but NOW they are concerned about being fiscal??? No Mitch said it best when he repeated several times, his only goal in his position it to make sure Obama does not get re-elected, the hell with what the country needs. He would rather the USA fall to pieces and its people suffer just so he can get back in power They are showing their true colors

StrangerThan -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:00:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Where were the spending cuts in the 2008 bill? Find me a place in the world today suffering from a debt crisis that is happy, that is doing well, that is preserving their way of life, that isn't under pressure to raise taxes, cut benefits in order to get loans to keep from defaulting. Look back, look at the present or look forward. Choice is yours.

StrangerThan -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:06:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u And just who would you be suggesting are those "stupid and extremist assholes"? In addition let me ask you this question...the Republican tea party and Grover pledgeists hold to the line that raising taxes in a recession is a no no.....how is it that it is a good idea to slash gov.spending during that same recession? So where's the money going to come from? Is your problem that they will hold the line or that they were elected to hold the line on taxes? Just curious. If voters sent a wave crashing down on washington to say, we've had enough. Is your problem with the people they elected or with them? You want serious work. Well, what the fuck is serious? Government money is not going to turn this problem around. It's the money in your pocket, mine, and everyone else's. We have to spend. We have to have enough confidence to spend.

tazzygirl -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:24:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Where were the spending cuts in the 2008 bill? Find me a place in the world today suffering from a debt crisis that is happy, that is doing well, that is preserving their way of life, that isn't under pressure to raise taxes, cut benefits in order to get loans to keep from defaulting. Look back, look at the present or look forward. Choice is yours. Hey, they dont mind giving away votes.

tazzygirl -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:26:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u And just who would you be suggesting are those "stupid and extremist assholes"? In addition let me ask you this question...the Republican tea party and Grover pledgeists hold to the line that raising taxes in a recession is a no no.....how is it that it is a good idea to slash gov.spending during that same recession? So where's the money going to come from? Is your problem that they will hold the line or that they were elected to hold the line on taxes? Just curious. If voters sent a wave crashing down on washington to say, we've had enough. Is your problem with the people they elected or with them? You want serious work. Well, what the fuck is serious? Government money is not going to turn this problem around. It's the money in your pocket, mine, and everyone else's. We have to spend. We have to have enough confidence to spend. We have to have money to spend it.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:28:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Where was all this fiscal concern 4, 6 or 8 years ago? They never cared about fiscal concern when they raised the debt all those times, they never passed a balanced budget act when they where in control, never in the history of our country held back aid to the American people for disaster relief...but NOW they are concerned about being fiscal??? Yeah, the 40% increase in debt since Obama took office doesnt change things a bit.

tazzygirl -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:40:01 AM)
35 percent: Increase in the national debt during President Obama’s first 30 months in office, reaching $14.3 trillion at the beginning of July. 40 percent: Increase debt during President Bush’s second term in office, reaching $10.7 trillion by the time Obama took over. 33 percent: Increase in debt during Bush’s first term, reaching $7.6 trillion. 8 percent: Increase in debt during President Clinton’s last term, reaching $5.7 trillion as Bush took over. 27 percent: Increase in debt during Clinton’s first term in office, reaching $5.3 trillion. Source: U.S. Department of Treasury Bureau of the Public Debt

rulemylife -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:44:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Perhaps you forget that the Senate is Dem controlled. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehner-tries-to-give-house-gop-conservatives-a-lesson-in-spending-fight/2011/09/22/gIQA0XM5oK_story.html?hpid=z1 quote: Washington lurched toward another potential government shutdown crisis Friday, as the House approved by a 219-203 vote a GOP-authored short-term funding measure designed to keep the government running through Nov. 18 and Democrats in the Senate immediately vowed to reject the bill. Perhaps you don't realize that November 18th is less then two months away. What good does a short-term funding plan do? The Republicans are just playing games, trying to make it seem like they are compromising when they are purposely trying to stretch to this out and turn in into an imaginary crisis to damage the Democrats.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 11:46:03 AM)
FR And true to form Dingy Harry is stripping out the offsets.

Sanity -> RE: libtards...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 12:01:40 PM)
SHUTDOWN: Harry Reid kills bill to keep gov't running... Postpones disaster relief vote...

rulemylife -> RE: cons...still threatening a shutdow,...still holding disaster relief hostage.... (9/23/2011 12:09:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StrangerThan quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Yes elections have consequences...we are now witnessing the consequence of sending a bunch of extremist assholes to Washington(tea bag ideological idiots) to do serious work [&o] As opposed to leaving the stupid and extremists assholes in office who got us where we are in the first place. Tellin ya mike, if the US doesn't learn some fiscal responsibility soon, we're going to be face first into a wall with no options. Look around the world. We're not the only ones, and those being forced to fix it are not happy. Uhh,,,,,,,you do realize it was Bush and a Republican Congress that started this mess? And if we really want to trace it back it started with Reagan and his trickle-down nonsense that Dubya adopted.

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