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Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:30:57 PM)
Only morons believe anything is free Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic dont ask the impossible Polite He still thinks we all get free healthcare. little steps my dear chap, baby tiny steps and lots of time

Politesub53 -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:32:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business. Who can compete with "free" And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue. Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it. You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter.

Lucylastic -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:33:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business. Who can compete with "free" And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue. Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it. You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter. Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??

Politesub53 -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:35:13 PM)
Dont ask the impossible Lucy...........[;)]

Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:43:12 PM)
Unlike you I can keep my story straight Youre the one who wrote that people are free to jump the queue, failing to mention thats not something thats exactly practice since it involves paying twice What the Chinese are practicing isnt socialism, thats just another lie on your part Some of that creative marketing that socialists are so good at quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue. Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it. You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter.

Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:44:30 PM)
Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering Cant quite follow your batshit crazy quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??

Politesub53 -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:46:20 PM)
Lmao we have a winner. Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country. As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.

Lucylastic -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:48:09 PM)
Id be happy with just one iota of intellectual honesty, from him tho? I wont get either!

tazzygirl -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:49:07 PM)
quote: Youre the one who wrote that people are free to jump the queue, failing to mention thats not something thats exactly practice since it involves paying twice Think people dont pay twice now? Mom and dad both have a job... both buy insurance through work.. and both still end up with medical bills.... happens alot.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:49:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering Cant quite follow your batshit crazy quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama?? Shes referring to the recession caused by the Dems housing bubble.

Lucylastic -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 5:52:22 PM)
LMFAO another intellectually honesty deficient... The housing bubble caused 8 million jobs to be lost, yeah ok

DeviantlyD -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:05:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens.

imperatrixx -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:05:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 You dont get it do you. No one has to wait for socialised healthcare, you can still go and pay to have it done privately IF YOU WANT TO. The difference is those who cant afford to go private can still get treatment EVEN IF IT MEANS A WAIT. Sooner or later you will grasp what is in effect a simple fact, one that most four year olds understand. Beat me to it. It's amazing how people can be so adamant that they don't want something when they don't even know what it is or how it works.

Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:20:38 PM)
Oh, the leftists "free housing" debacle... quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering Cant quite follow your batshit crazy quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama?? Shes referring to the recession caused by the Dems housing bubble.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:23:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens. Easily. With low corporate tax rates, very large retirement fund deductions and a very large personal deduction, the apparent tax burden in Denmark isnt as high as it appears.

Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:25:36 PM)
When they couldnt feed their own people, they were militantly socialist Much like France today, and Greece (etc) But what theyre up to now, enslaving children and dissidents, using their slave labor to get a dollar... that is neither socialism nor capitalism, is it quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Lmao we have a winner. Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country. As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.

Sanity -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:37:50 PM)
Not surprised that you claim the Chinese brand of socialism as your own You also had the hots for Saddams brand of socialism, didnt you quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Lmao we have a winner. Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country. As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.

erieangel -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/24/2011 6:47:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business. Who can compete with "free" And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity At least somebody is willing to admit that socialized healthcare systems have at least one definite downside... You dont get it do you. No one has to wait for socialised healthcare, you can still go and pay to have it done privately IF YOU WANT TO. The difference is those who cant afford to go private can still get treatment EVEN IF IT MEANS A WAIT. Sooner or later you will grasp what is in effect a simple fact, one that most four year olds understand. That's a lie. When community mental health care was totally administered through the counties, there were still private mental health hospitals and psychiatrists who worked privately. The difference was, back then there was far money for actual care. Now, a county that has a $8M annual MH/MR budget is giving $2M of that directly to a private, for-profit insurance company in the form of profit. In the past, the total $8M would have gone to care for the people who needed it.

DeviantlyD -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/25/2011 12:44:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens. Easily. With low corporate tax rates, very large retirement fund deductions and a very large personal deduction, the apparent tax burden in Denmark isnt as high as it appears. ? I thought we were discussing social programs, not taxes. If the tax burden isn't that high and they still have the social programs, who is getting fat and sassy?

Politesub53 -> RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthcare... (9/25/2011 3:23:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Not surprised that you claim the Chinese brand of socialism as your own You also had the hots for Saddams brand of socialism, didnt you Show me just one post i have made stating either of these examples. Sure sign you dont know what you are talking about when you revert to making shit up. Lucy will explain to you all about that "socialist " I am always praising...... Red Maggie Thatcher.

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