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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:30:57 PM   
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Only morons believe anything is free

Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:32:13 PM   
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Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business.  Who can compete with "free"

And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that




You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue.

Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it.

You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:33:30 PM   
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Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business.  Who can compete with "free"

And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that




You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue.

Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it.

You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter.

Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:35:13 PM   
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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:43:12 PM   
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Unlike you I can keep my story straight

Youre the one who wrote that people are free to jump the queue, failing to mention thats not something thats exactly practice since it involves paying twice

What the Chinese are practicing isnt socialism, thats just another lie on your part

Some of that creative marketing that socialists are so good at

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You dont have a clue do you. No one has to pay twice, unless they want to jump the queue.

Saying " Socialism drives private businesses out of business", fails to explain why US companies are rushing to invest in China, does it.

You can make up all the facts you want, but it doesnt alter the truth of the matter.


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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:44:30 PM   
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Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering

Cant quite follow your batshit crazy

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Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??


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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:46:20 PM   
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Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country.

As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:48:09 PM   
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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:49:07 PM   
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Youre the one who wrote that people are free to jump the queue, failing to mention thats not something thats exactly practice since it involves paying twice


Think people dont pay twice now?

Mom and dad both have a job... both buy insurance through work.. and both still end up with medical bills.... happens alot.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:49:23 PM   
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Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering

Cant quite follow your batshit crazy

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Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??



Shes referring to the recession caused by the Dems housing bubble.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 5:52:22 PM   
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The housing bubble caused 8 million jobs to be lost, yeah ok

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:05:02 PM   
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Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy


If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:05:14 PM   
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You dont get it do you. No one has to wait for socialised healthcare, you can still go and pay to have it done privately IF YOU WANT TO.

The difference is those who cant afford to go private can still get treatment EVEN IF IT MEANS A WAIT. Sooner or later you will grasp what is in effect a simple fact, one that most four year olds understand.


Beat me to it.

It's amazing how people can be so adamant that they don't want something when they don't even know what it is or how it works.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:20:38 PM   
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Oh, the leftists "free housing" debacle...

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Make sense and perhaps I will take a stab at answering

Cant quite follow your batshit crazy

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Whats the excuse for the 8 million jobs lost in the US before Obama??



Shes referring to the recession caused by the Dems housing bubble.


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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:23:00 PM   
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Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy


If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens.


Easily. With low corporate tax rates, very large retirement fund deductions and a very large personal deduction, the apparent tax burden in Denmark isnt as high as it appears.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:25:36 PM   
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When they couldnt feed their own people, they were militantly socialist

Much like France today, and Greece (etc)

But what theyre up to now, enslaving children and dissidents, using their slave labor to get a dollar... that is neither socialism nor capitalism, is it

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Lmao we have a winner.

Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country.

As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.


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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:37:50 PM   
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Not surprised that you claim the Chinese brand of socialism as your own

You also had the hots for Saddams brand of socialism, didnt you

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Lmao we have a winner.

Sanity finds out theat China isnt a socialist country.

As for the NHS, you STILL dont get it, but keep spouting nonsense to try and show you do.


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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/24/2011 6:47:32 PM   
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Thats a lie because socialism drives private businesses out of business.  Who can compete with "free"

And why should anyone be forced to pay twice for their health care, beside that

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
At least somebody is willing to admit that socialized healthcare systems have at least one definite downside...




You dont get it do you. No one has to wait for socialised healthcare, you can still go and pay to have it done privately IF YOU WANT TO.

The difference is those who cant afford to go private can still get treatment EVEN IF IT MEANS A WAIT. Sooner or later you will grasp what is in effect a simple fact, one that most four year olds understand.




That's a lie.  When community mental health care was totally administered through the counties, there were still private mental health hospitals and psychiatrists who worked privately.  The difference was, back then there was far money for actual care.  Now, a county that has a $8M annual MH/MR budget is giving $2M of that directly to a private, for-profit insurance company in the form of profit.  In the past, the total $8M would have gone to care for the people who needed it.

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/25/2011 12:44:16 AM   
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Socialist programs are horridly expensive and inefficient, bureaucrats tend to get fat and sassy


If this were true, how do you explain Denmark? A country with very high taxes, significant social programs and whose citizens are considered amongst the happiest people in the world? Their bureaucrats are no more "fat and sassy" than the citizens.


Easily. With low corporate tax rates, very large retirement fund deductions and a very large personal deduction, the apparent tax burden in Denmark isnt as high as it appears.


? I thought we were discussing social programs, not taxes. If the tax burden isn't that high and they still have the social programs, who is getting fat and sassy?

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RE: 'Patriotic Americans' Will Wait Longer for Healthca... - 9/25/2011 3:23:44 AM   
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Not surprised that you claim the Chinese brand of socialism as your own

You also had the hots for Saddams brand of socialism, didnt you



Show me just one post i have made stating either of these examples.

Sure sign you dont know what you are talking about when you revert to making shit up.

Lucy will explain to you all about that "socialist " I am always praising...... Red Maggie Thatcher.

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