Hippiekinkster
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A comment to an article on the site "Credit Slips" "«We are a country of hard-working and highly productive individuals» A Real American would point out that a large number (over 30 million families) of Fake Americans are so lazy and low producing that they rely on welfare ("stealing from winners") to eat, and that anybody making less than $100k/year is not very productive or hard working, just coasting along and enjoying the trickle-down from the Real Americans, those who make at least $100k. «--and the fact that our health care system is so dysfunctional that families end up bankrupt because of an illness or injury» A Real American would point out that it is the families that are dysfunctional -- if those families Real American winners who produced enough not to worry about the cost of healthcare, there would not be a problem. To a Real American the issue is that there are many families who don't produce enough to pay for their own health, and want to steal from the property of those who do. The Real American solution to the problem of losers trying to steal property from winners to pay for their health is "good riddance". That is simple and works at low cost. «is a national (and international) disgrace.» For Real Americans it is indeed a disgrace that lazy, unproductive losers can simply declare bankruptcy and refuse to return the wealth they have borrowed to their legitimate owners. «Our data provide strong evidence that the current system simply does not work. We deserve something better. Much better.» For a Real American a better system is one in which those losers who are too lazy or incompetent to produce enough to pay for their own health don't get to steal, via emergency room work, or via lavish welfare such as Medicaid or Medicare, from the winners who are good producers of wealth. Now I am not a Real American and I think that the arguments are are weak and miss several important points, but many USA voters think like Real American and are resentful that some of their hard earned property may be taken to fund the healthcare of losers. As to those losers, you hide as much as they reveal. Consider for example the obvious contradiction between: these two points: «4) Most of the medically bankrupt families were middle class before the illness or injury--they owned homes, had attended college, and had middle-class occupations.» «6) For these medically bankrupt families, their out-of-pocket medical expenses since the onset of the illness or injury averaged $17,943.» That does not compute -- how comes that middle class landlords can be bankrupted by total expenses of under $20k, less than the cost of a new car? It seems to be that you use "middle class" as a synonym of average, and the average USA family is working class, even if many working class people have a degree and live in a house they are in effect renting from their mortgage lender, as they have very little equity in it. In almost every country the working class is in the bottom middle 60% by income (the middle class is in the top 20%, the underclass in the bottom 20%), and the USA are no exception. Your "middle class" are really the "aspirational" working class, those poor workers who being caught in the American Dream make-believe they are middle class by borrowing from predatory lenders to make up stagnant or decreasing salaries. These overstretched people can then easily be bankrupted by the additional cash flow burden of expenses under $20k. Calling overstretched working class people "middle class" is common, but it is usually a ruse by populist reactionaries." Brilliant.
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"We are convinced that freedom w/o Socialism is privilege and injustice, and that Socialism w/o freedom is slavery and brutality." Bakunin “Nothing we do, however virtuous, can be accomplished alone; therefore we are saved by love.” Reinhold Ne
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