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jlf1961 -> RE: Support (international) terrorism – why not? (9/27/2011 5:34:26 PM)
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I have read this thread completely, and find the idea of supporting terrorism as stupid.
Let me point out a few facts to the op, which seems to have eluded them, either that or they are too stupid to see the difference.
1) terrorists target civilians, women, children, non combatants EXCLUSIVELY.
2) In modern warfare, civilians are not targeted on purpose for the soul benefit of terrorizing a population and to demoralize the civilians of a country we are at war with.
This was not true in WWII for example. BOTH sides used UNRESTRICTED bombing on civilian targets. Everything was a fair target. If a German war industry plant was in close proximity to a hospital or school, it was bombed, and civilians were killed. The Allies fire bombed German cities with the intent of inflicting civilian casualties. The US Firebombed Japanese cities for two reasons, to terrorize the civilian population and destroy the many cottage industries that supported the Japanese war effort.
3 Today targets of aircraft are targeted with laser other guidance systems that limits the chance of civilian casualties, although a miss can and does happen, it is not intentional. You might want to google the video of smart weapons hitting their targets with civilian structures nearby and missed by the munition.
4 To purposely target civilians is a crime under the UCMJ. Officers giving the order are held responsible, and the soldiers, if they carry out such an order are also criminals. An enlisted man, under the UCMJ, can legally and without worry of being prosecuted, refuse to follow an order that means killing unarmed civilians.
Finally, to look at the religious ramifications, the commandment in its original form, is NOT "Thou shalt not kill," it is "Thou shalt not murder." It should also be noted that the Qur'an in the words of Mohammed, explicitly states it is a sin to kill a non-combatant.
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"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).
Islam and war Islam sets down clear guidelines as to when war is ethically right, and clear guidelines as to how such a war should be conducted. In brief, war is permitted: - in self defence
- when other nations have attacked an Islamic state
- if another state is oppressing its own Muslims
War should be conducted: - in a disciplined way
- so as to avoid injuring non-combatants
- with the minimum necessary force
- without anger
- with humane treatment towards prisoners of war
Please not that the extremists in Islam do not follow these rules. In the words of their prophet Mohammed, they are going to hell, not to heaven and 72 virgins.
For HeatherMcLeather, a terrorist is one who practices unrestricted warfare, does primarily include military targets on his agenda and makes an effort to kill, main and wound civilians.
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