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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 1:45:24 PM   
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This country has a serious lack of good parents that actually are there for their children. These kids are raising themselves a great deal of the time and you want parents to take second jobs taking the parents away for longer periods of time... what about spending time with your children when you are really there, not just a lump of parent on a sofa... doing the dum...de..dum...da...da, I am so fucking tired bit!

Raising emotionally healthy children takes a lot and if you don't have the time or energy, you are going to run into serious problems.

Take your second job and lack of parenting well.. in a society where single parents are raising children often times without support or enough... and shove it up your well educated ass!


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:03:22 PM   
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Well thank you for the parenting tips. My kids neither raised themselves nor "have serious problems" as a result of both parents working. Their future always was and will remain our top priority. My ex and I are united on that one.
I truly am sorry if I have offended anyone. However, you are never going to convince me that it is not a parent's top priority to insure a better life for their kids, whatever that takes. With that, I am done with this discussion.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

This country has a serious lack of good parents that actually are there for their children. These kids are raising themselves a great deal of the time and you want parents to take second jobs taking the parents away for longer periods of time... what about spending time with your children when you are really there, not just a lump of parent on a sofa... doing the dum...de..dum...da...da, I am so fucking tired bit!

Raising emotionally healthy children takes a lot and if you don't have the time or energy, you are going to run into serious problems.

Take your second job and lack of parenting well.. in a society where single parents are raising children often times without support or enough... and shove it up your well educated ass!



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:09:07 PM   
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Furthermore miss semisweet... I learned early on a mother will do anything for her children. Some children are not born perfect... they need extra. Some parents are not born perfect. It isn't a perfect world and there are a lot of factors... your hard core input here isn't factoring in.

As for the op... darlin, nobody told him to go out and get a job with benefits! We said to go get a job that may not be the best, but is a start... go do something other than whine or see the negative. We said, stop relying on your parents and be a big boy. If your parents fail you... guess what... pull up your britches, stop with the bitch and get on with it.

Jobs are hard to find and good ones even harder, especially with the competition out there all starving and willing to take less just to have something at all. Still, in three years if you can't find some way to make some cash... you aren't trying. There are people like me that lost it all because of health that need assistance. I have paid twenty dollars an hour until I lost my income recently... to help those needing a job and help me.

There must be a will.. and you will find a way. Exactly what I am now doing after my education, experience, career and life... at the ripe age of 54 this month. Stop twisting what we said to the op and life as we have lived it, because you were so lucky you didn't have sick kids or were ill yourself or you business went out from under you through no fault of your own. Take some of that semi sweet and do something with it.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:11:36 PM   
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Well thank you for the parenting tips. My kids neither raised themselves nor "have serious problems" as a result of both parents working. Their future always was and will remain our top priority. My ex and I are united on that one.
I truly am sorry if I have offended anyone. However, you are never going to convince me that it is not a parent's top priority to insure a better life for their kids, whatever that takes. With that, I am done with this discussion.

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This country has a serious lack of good parents that actually are there for their children. These kids are raising themselves a great deal of the time and you want parents to take second jobs taking the parents away for longer periods of time... what about spending time with your children when you are really there, not just a lump of parent on a sofa... doing the dum...de..dum...da...da, I am so fucking tired bit!

Raising emotionally healthy children takes a lot and if you don't have the time or energy, you are going to run into serious problems.

Take your second job and lack of parenting well.. in a society where single parents are raising children often times without support or enough... and shove it up your well educated ass!




Wench, you had a husband... a partner... you both worked... good for you. When I had a husband we both worked too. When I didn't have a husband, I worked around the clock some years. My kids saw me one day a week where I shopped and prepared decent foods for them and fifteen minutes a day. Somewhere things can get tough when the kids needs include more mom time and dad has gone fishing so to speak.

Not everyone has the helps you had. Not everyone bitches about it.. they get on with it, but to compare your story to others as you have without considering many factors... you fail.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:22:10 PM   
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I truly am sorry if I have offended anyone.


You didn't offend me but you DID annoy me a bit with the posts about how if the parents don't put themselves in great debt by paying for their kids education they are somehow not good parents. I think my parents are awesome because they taught me to be self-sufficient rather than paying for everything I wanted - including my education. I'm not saying that's why they did it, but it did teach me to find a way to get things done without relying on them for everything.

There have been times when I just wasn't making enough to save for a rainy day when they helped out with the occasional meal or money so I could have some fun and/or a good take out meal. But the basics, rent/food/transport were paid for by me and I cannot thank them enough for the lessons they gave me. Sometimes paying for ones kids cripples rather than helps. THAT is what I was trying to get across.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:35:30 PM   
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His parents should have been saving the money for him to go to college. They had 18 years.......his parents have managed to raise someone who will probably struggle financially for the rest of his life, instead of thinking ahead when he was born and joining one of the college savings plan most states have. They must be so proud of the job they did as parents.
How many siblings does the OP have? Are they all healthy or were the parents slammed with medical bills? Are both parents in good health? Did one or both of the OP's parents have to quit working due to a health issue? What was their earning potential? Were they minimum wage laborers who could never do anymore than have a hot meal on the table, hand-me-downs as Christmas presents, etc,

Not every parent has the ability to put their children through college. This does not mean they are not good, loving people. It does not mean they did not care enough to plan ahead. However, it COULD mean they had 18 years to feel guilty because they could not provide everything they wished their children to have, no matter how hard they tried.
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The greatest thing my parents ever did for me was send me to college. I don't know what my life would be like if they hadn't. Same with my ex husband's wonderful parents for him. I paid for my law degree, but they gave me a great start by paying for my undergrad. Consequently, we never struggled financially, and did the same thing for our kids.

I am happy for you and yours that you all had/have those educational opportunities. Many of us did not. My parents paid the first years tuition for me, then i had student loans and a small scholarship for the remaining years. I worked my ass off in class and any part-time job that would help with living expenses. My parents would occasionally slip me a few bucks, and made sure my car, insurance and gas credit card were in working order.
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So, my parents gift to me has kept on giving to their grandkids. That's a legacy.
The legacy you speak of is a college education. I can't help but wonder what your feelings toward them would be if they were among the many who did not have financial means. What would you call their legacy then?

The legacy i have from my parents? They gave me my legs.
Two of them. They never let me forget how strong they are and taught me the two best ways to care for them: the best cure for shaky knees is to kneel on them, and the easiest way to keep them strong is to bend down and help someone who has fallen.  They knew my legs could buckle and i would fall on my face, and they let that happen a few times. They taught me that getting back up can sometimes be a struggle, but once standing my legs would carry me upright and get stronger and steadier with every step.

THAT's a legacy.

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Op, lose weight, try to get in the military. Lie if you have to.

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And if your parents ever struggle in their retirement ( not an unlikely scenario given the state of social security) just tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

These two statements speak volumes of your character. How sad.



This post grabs the ones that I wanted to address. (Thanks holly)

No, I am not obligated to pay for my children to go to university. If they wish to go, then I'll do the best that I can to aid them, but NO, I won't go into debt for that. They'll have to work to pay for it and take the debts they incur as their own.

Not one of my children think that it's *owed* them. They have had my full support until they finish college (in the UK, at 18yrs). They would be horrified to think that I might consider taking debts to support them once they reach the age of majority just as I would have been if my parents had.

Thus far, my children have found their own way in life beyond the age 18yrs. They took all they were given and built on it. Not one of them thought university was their route and the last one left at home isn't considering it, either. It's just ONE route to the future, there are lots of others.

My AA* son was sick of academia at 18 yrs. The thought of another 2-3yrs studying for a degree was never going to woo him. He wanted satisfaction in what he was doing for his own criteria. So he works hard, long hours and takes courses through his firm. It's relevant to HIM and is the way he wants to go.

My children were self sufficient to a large degree from the age of 14 yrs. They all worked at that age, and they paid for their clothes and any entertainment, phones, hobbies and anything else they might wish for.

It wasn't/isn't seen as *tough* to have been responsible for these things. In fact, it's just seen as *life as it is for us*. And yes, they have friends that have every gadget known to man....their parents are far better off than us financially. And yet they spend 5 days out of 7 days at our home, having to cook for themselves, with no huge tv's and without all the dudey tv channels and only able to watch their favourite progs if they share my bed with me.

So we have a warm and loving home, with few restrictions, we are frank and open and life is far more about how you live it than about all the super grades they got and could continue getting.

As you said, Iamsemisweet, you never struggled. You didn't have to. That's really rather nice.  I, however,am not prepared to get into debt as it'd remove my capacity to help my children in the moments when they really need it.

I'm one of those parents that never had enough money.....even when my husband was alive it was really rather hand to mouth. Yet we had such lovely children, and a lifestyle that was enviable in it's austerity.

And to close, I would never see my parents stuggle in their retirement. I don't want so much as a penny from them and hope they spend any money they have enjoying their twighlight years. They gave me all I need already.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:52:18 PM   
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This post grabs the ones that I wanted to address. (Thanks holly)

No, I am not obligated to pay for my children to go to university. If they wish to go, then I'll do the best that I can to aid them, but NO, I won't go into debt for that. They'll have to work to pay for it and take the debts they incur as their own.

Not one of my children think that it's *owed* them. They have had my full support until they finish college (in the UK, at 18yrs). They would be horrified to think that I might consider taking debts to support them once they reach the age of majority just as I would have been if my parents had.

Thus far, my children have found their own way in life beyond the age 18yrs. They took all they were given and built on it. Not one of them thought university was their route and the last one left at home isn't considering it, either. It's just ONE route to the future, there are lots of others.

My AA* son was sick of academia at 18 yrs. The thought of another 2-3yrs studying for a degree was never going to woo him. He wanted satisfaction in what he was doing for his own criteria. So he works hard, long hours and takes courses through his firm. It's relevant to HIM and is the way he wants to go.

My children were self sufficient to a large degree from the age of 14 yrs. They all worked at that age, and they paid for their clothes and any entertainment, phones, hobbies and anything else they might wish for.

It wasn't/isn't seen as *tough* to have been responsible for these things. In fact, it's just seen as *life as it is for us*. And yes, they have friends that have every gadget known to man....their parents are far better off than us financially. And yet they spend 5 days out of 7 days at our home, having to cook for themselves, with no huge tv's and without all the dudey tv channels and only able to watch their favourite progs if they share my bed with me.

So we have a warm and loving home, with few restrictions, we are frank and open and life is far more about how you live it than about all the super grades they got and could continue getting.

As you said, Iamsemisweet, you never struggled. You didn't have to. That's really rather nice.  I, however,am not prepared to get into debt as it'd remove my capacity to help my children in the moments when they really need it.

I'm one of those parents that never had enough money.....even when my husband was alive it was really rather hand to mouth. Yet we had such lovely children, and a lifestyle that was enviable in it's austerity.

And to close, I would never see my parents stuggle in their retirement. I don't want so much as a penny from them and hope they spend any money they have enjoying their twighlight years. They gave me all I need already.

agirl






Thank you for writing this. I am sitting here very upset at what SemiSweet has said which amounts to her, yes, insulting my parents and there for me. I was blessed with amazing parents and I do not think not paying for my education makes them any less so. My mom was my best friend and the best mother I know, NO ONE will convince me other wise. She didn't get to enjoy her twilight years, she didn't get to grow old and spoil grandbabies. What she got was an imposable illness and death at a young age. She passed away a few months ago and I will not sully her memory and all that she did for me by complaining that, of all things, I have student loans!

Hearing IASS Going on and on about how wonderful she is that she payed for your childrens education and how that makes her such a better parent tears my heart out. My mother was an awesome parent and I don't need any of her money to prove that.

So thank you agirl, hearing what you had to say made me feel a little bit better.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 2:59:07 PM   
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Well thank you for the parenting tips. My kids neither raised themselves nor "have serious problems" as a result of both parents working. Their future always was and will remain our top priority. My ex and I are united on that one.
I truly am sorry if I have offended anyone. However, you are never going to convince me that it is not a parent's top priority to insure a better life for their kids, whatever that takes. With that, I am done with this discussion.



My children's future is interesting.........but they've become they're own people and my role is that of ear, shoulder and supporter.


I am in NO way here to provide a better life for my children.

If that's what they want then they can provide it for themselves. The life they had or have with me could NEVER be described as tough in any way. We have the most important things covered....Time, genuine interest and support.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 3:10:56 PM   
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IASS is a lawyer. That explains why she equates everything to money.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 3:48:52 PM   
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when my daughter went off to college I absolutely refused to go into debt for her college. I am lucky that the military is paying for her college but if they hadn't I would not have destroyed MY future by doing so. I have a life to live as well. Yup I love my daughter and would do **almost** anything for her but by not making myself a priority I can't make her a priority. I taught her how to find the resources she needs and wants and she's done just that....all on  her own...finding her own job, finding her own apartment, paying her own bills, making sure her health is under control....all without mom there to bail her out financially or any other way.  She's learned how to be...gasp...an adult. Imagine that.




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 3:55:51 PM   
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My grandparents had money. We all had no idea how much money they had until they started dying and someone had to take over. Grandma was a teacher... a well respected one that changed lives. Grandpa retired early to as he said and we thought jokingly said... to sit back and count his money. They went through the depression where buying a cow for your family was done on payments and stamps at three cents were hard to come by. They were farming people that just happened to hit oil. We had no idea! We thought it was pennies they were making.

So... they raised everyone and they really were like that Dallas show grand dictators... like we were in the depression. Everything you needed was there.. but you were taught to work and work hard and to make your way in the world. You learned to take care of your things and people and how to be an adult, how to get along with or without and how to be a strong person. Only a few in the family didn't get it.

My kids thanked me for raising them to be the hard workers they are and even the little ones, that have it easier than any others before them... still know, you get what you work for and they work. We already have them saving for cars and education. They are 5 and 6.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 4:19:48 PM   
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IASS is a lawyer. That explains why she equates everything to money.


My first husband is a carpenter and HE equates everything to money.............lol

I don't think it's the vocation or career, I think it's the outlook.  IASS's outlook seems blinkered by her own experiences. Either that or she doesn't know many people who have raised children that were capable of shouldering their education on their own , or who had enough *get up and go* to find other ways to live a good and worthwhile life.

Seen and heard it all before. A few months ago I gave a young lad a roof when he was in dire straits and kicked out of his Nanna's. He'd already been kicked out of his Mum's and also his Dad's.

Within a week £20 had gone missing, I was confused.  Within 2 weeks £80 had disappeared. I was no longer confused.

Yep, this *rich kid* filched through my room, through all my private, personal little places and things, and stole money that M keeps here for emergencies.

He was confronted by my sons, and made noises about how awful he felt, how treacherous he'd been, made plans to restore the money. He never kept to the plans. He always had an excuse, life was being so hard on him, blah, blah.

I found his mother and paid her a visit. She said * We gave him everything, we spoiled him, he's had everything. He's stolen things and sold them from here, that's why we eventually stopped him being here*.

I walked home thinking about my boys, who haven't ever had any mod cons that they hadn't worked and paid for themselves and who have had a fair amount of adversity to live with including the suicide of their Dad.

Money means jack-shit. Not being able to pay for education beyond 18yrs doesn't mean your kids fall down and have no clue how to go on. Mine knew how to get on from 14 yrs old.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 7:23:49 PM   
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He is your typical "ENTITLEMENT ME ME ME" young person from this generation of kids... Dude, grow up and do for yourself, stop relying on your parents and stop being a pussy....as long as you act like a pussy, you will not get any pussy let alone what you're looking for.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/2/2011 2:09:32 AM   
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Fuckit, everyone's thrown in their two cent's but me But what the hell, here's my two peso's too :)

Before you get a sub, you need to get yourself oozing awesomeness. It's not hard to be above average/median, half the world can do it. And most people outgrow being young and stupid. You're not special.

Anyway it's your life, so let's take this seriously. So we do the Search and Rescue team priorities. First is your wellbeing, then the rescue team, finally the muppet you're rescuing. So get your life and the space around your life sorted out, before you add a sub to it.

For fitness when you have a injury (I've broken bones), look into swimming. Unlike running, you don't have to spread the strain equally across both legs. It doesn't cost money to use river's, lakes and public pools (your country may vary), just time. And if you're unemployed, you got more time than average. For dry stuff, you can get free fitness advice off the internet, (mileage may vary) Army fitness is just a lot of low tech, running, pushups and situps etc, stuff that doesn't require equipment, just time and someone yelling in your ear. If you can't find someone to yell at you, DIY.

As for a career in showbiz in the shortterm? hell fucking no. In terms of sexy vs cash careers. Showbiz is sexy, but the pay is lousy and the odd's of success are worse if you're not casting couch material. And if you do succeed, having a sex life that involves "OMG Beating women!!1" might scare off prospective employers when they read about in the gossip columns. So you'll be fucked either path Given that 95% of Hollywood talent earn less than $5K a year from acting work(citation required). You'll need to get a second job waiting tables etc. And in a D/s relationship, showbiz talent is the "s" and the producers are the "D".



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/2/2011 5:27:57 AM   
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It sounds like the OP is suffering from depression.  I've not only been there, I work with young men his age who are mentally ill.  One of my clients is severely depressed and I see a lot of that client in the OP--the whining (though they both claim it is not whining), the woo-is-me attitude.  Get thee to a community mental health facility, OP.  Get a psych evaluation and get on some medication if needed.  The great thing about community mental health centers is that it can free of charge if your income is low, or they will help you apply for medicaid if you need it.  And medicaid might just help you get something done about your teeth.

And OP, as for the job.  It would be interesting to know how many hours a week you spend looking for a job.  My son is 27, disabled and has a GED.  And yet he has landed every job he has ever gone after.  Currently, he is teaching a computer class at our local mental health association; this without formal computer training or a  degree of any kind.  I often tell my clients that looking for a job is a full time job; if you aren't out there every day, pounding the pavement, talking to managers and business owners and checking back with places where you'd already applied, you aren't really trying to find a job.  There are a lot of "lesser work" jobs out there, but so many people apply for those jobs these days that often managers take only from the top of the stack when it is time to interview and hire.  And consider this--MOST JOBS AREN'T EVEN ADVERTISED!!!  Also, you are unskilled, without a degree; you shouldn't be on job sites like Monster or CareerBuilder.  They don't tend to service employers looking for unskilled laborers.  Put yourself out there.  Show a positive attitude, let each and every manager and business owner know that you want to work for him/her.  Never mention that you need a job--they know you need a job and so do millions of other people. 

Once you have a job, let your parents know that you are looking for an apartment, I'd bet your mom has some household items she'd give you, especially since they are moving.  And save every penny you earn until you have the apartment.  And then save every penny after you pay your bills so that you can pay your own way through school, even if you have to take one class at time.  You say you want to be a computer programmer--then go do it!!  Your parents aren't going to pay for your education, nor should they, a college education isn't a right; but if you badly it enough FIND A WAY TO DO IT!!  Making excuses for why things aren't getting done is just such a defeatist attitude.  It is immature and unattractive.  Grow up.

ETA:  I'm disabled.  Was on SSI for a number of years.  There came a point in my life where SSI wasn't enough--both financial and what my life becoming.  I now work full time.  And the entire first year of employment, I spent an hour on the bus to get to work; after work, the buses stopped before I caught the connecting route and had to walk 2 miles--at night through a bad part of the city and with a cane.  But I didn't give up, I didn't use my difficulties with walking as an excuse not to work.  Instead, I worked and saved and I bought myself my first car in 15 years.  And after 3 years on the job, I'm being considered for a new position, one with more pay and more responsibility. 







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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/3/2011 3:50:18 AM   
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Just to add to the job hunting part. Get someone in the hiring demographic to check your CV. A lot of things I thought looked good in my CV when I was young and starting out, are now red flags when I see them in someone else's CV. So get second opinions.

When you are talking to businesses about whether they have a job, don't stop at that question if they say no. Ask them if they know of a friend at another business that might be hiring? If they do, ask them for a contact name? If you're on foot, you have a valid excuse to ask them to call their friend to check "if the jobs available", which saves you walking time and stops you being a stranger when you go there. Before you leave ask them about the hirer. Don't forget to thank everyone who helps you, when they help you. If you get a job, invest some of the paycheck into their good and services, so they get a warm fuzzy feeling and you get a reputation you can reuse next time.

Pay attention to dress codes. If you're near ex military officers, shine your shoes to a mirror, it's their secret handshake. Stuffy corporates prefer suits with white shirts. Non stuffy go for colored shirts. Techies do t-shirts until they sellout. Labor work means sturdy, clean clothes. Depending on their culture, you're be called talent, headcount, bodies, resources, staff, people or workers, it's a little thing, but it's jargon. If you're "like them", you'll use the flavor of jargon they use to fit in seamlessly.

You want to dress to fit into the company, so before you go to an interview, subtly check out the place at lunchtime first to gauge the staff dress code. Binoculars are the wrong approach. I breeze into receptions, explain I have an interview tomorrow with X, and ask how they dress. It's a legit question. If the receptionist is bored enough, I ask about the receptionist, the culture, what they like and don't like. I've learned names, future business direction, competitors.... Don't go overboard, or be sleazy, but push yourself a step more forward than you usually do.
Then you go home, research the hell out of the company, their competitors, the way the market is going.
Then the day of the interview, walk in well groomed, not sweating and dressed like the hirer.
Greet the receptionist by name and resume the previous conversation, to instantly make every other interviewee feel out of place. If you're sweating from walking, go the bathroom and cup your palms under a cold tap for a minute or two until you stop sweating. Then wash your face and dry it, so you have a closed pore, cool, calm demeanor. Greet the interviewer with both your smile and the receptionists smile, interviewers notice these things. You should have a rough idea on the questions that'll be heading your way, and once they've stopped asking you questions, don't just sit there, ask relevant questions back.
You're a Dom so get inside their head. You want them to think about hiring extra staff, so ask about plans for expansions. Ask how they deal with managers fighting over too few staff/resources/talent/headcount. Ask them about their leadership style, so their ego gets inflated. What's their hobbies?
They're looking for red flags in you, so should you be when you're looking at them.

Learning to program computers is "free" as the internet, provides basic compilers, and discussion forums filled with Pro's on how it's being done in the real world, right now. . It just takes time, motivation and money for electricity and internet. Don't suck, but also don't overestimate the competition. Y
Half of ICT is faking and the other half is distracted by something more interesting .... http://thedailywtf.com/

And as for an apartment to call you own.. take care. If you're depressed, being isolated might make you a shut-in. Renting with other people, is cheaper. Plus interacting with other people provides a constant reality check, a wider social circle and a constant irritation that'll motivate yourself to get the money to get a bigger space. Plus if you're all poor, your sex life will improve, since it's cheap entertainment.



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/3/2011 8:59:38 AM   
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I had attempted to join the military, but I'm too overweight at the moment. I'm trying to lose, so who knows?


Uncle Sam paid for my college and continues to pay for my health insurance. The Army has waivers if recruits are somewhat overweight but physically fit - you could tailor your exercise program to fit these guidelines: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/04/fat_soldiers.html

I pay for my dental insurance out of pocket - Humana is $10 per month. I spent $600 on a $2,000 procedure. Shop around and see what plan works for you. Or try the college/university as previously suggested.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/3/2011 10:17:05 AM   
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I guess it's just Kana and Me who will admit to flipping burgers in our day, but I'll tell you right now that I was never ashamed of an honest day's pay, even when the pay sucked.  I wasn't living with parents at 22 and just accepting jobs that I felt were 'worthy' of Me.  It's been a long time since I had two part time jobs at minimum wage to make ends meet, but honestly, that's what I did at your age.  I'm practical like that.


Me too - I left home at 16 and had some real crappy jobs before I went into the USAF. McDonald's, Dairy Queen, factory work. Before that I babysat and worked in the library.

When I had to stop working at a full time regular job because of health issues in 1999, I always found enough part time jobs to get by. Sometimes this included scooping litter boxes and cleaning toilets. Except for a few months at the height of my illness, I always stayed busy full-time, whether this was at a variety of jobs, school, and/or volunteer work. I've been back to full time regular work since 2004.

/skips off to find the "lesser work" thread/


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/6/2011 2:24:49 PM   
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Hey all.

Well, I've been searching for a play partner/submissive for a couple of years now. Being in Indiana, I don't really expect much, but I suppose I'm rather shocked about JUST how bone dry it is.

My question is whether or not I should give up. I'm young at 22, and I've had a couple of responses to inquiries that say that they only want older men. That's hardly encouraging, and I admit I was tempted at first to generalize and say, "All these subs want is older men!". Truth is, though, I don't really know that. It does seem logical that it might be that way, though. Maybe submissive females really ONLY want older doms. Maybe it's just not feasible to expect to find a willing submissive at my age.

To be perfectly honest and express my own sentiments on the matter, I find that rather...disappointing. It's just that I only am going to be young for so long, and have the sort of sexual and mental capacity that I do for a limited amount of time. Even worse in my case is the fact that my folks can't afford some rather necessary oral surgery, and because of that I'm going to spend the majority of my life in great pain. I mean, I just find it a shame, is all.

I find myself becoming rather...erm, angry, at the fact that I may have to wait so long to get anywhere. I guess it's just internal sexual frustrations.

Also, maybe I have this wrong. Maybe BDSM relationships HAVE to spring out of vanilla relationships. That'd also be kind of sad, since there's something fundamental that I despise about vanilla relationships. "Trust". Thing is, if all you're going on dates for is to ensure that you can trust each other, doesn't it sort of mean that you're basing the relationship and the journey to deepen it on fear? I could totally be wrong on this, but that is sort of what it seems like. Not to mention that it takes up so much time that by the time you try to convert, 6 more months or even a year could pass. And if you fail to convert, you're either stuck with something you never really wanted because of all the time you put into it, or you just really wasted a whole lot of time.

I guess I'm just planning for my life, you know? I don't know what to expect, but I figure it can't be a waste of time to consider a little time management.

Thanks in advance for your responses! Sorry for my general noobishness/possible youthful naivete.


Judging by your photo you could easily pass for a man in his late 20's or maybe even older. The simplest solution to your problems, which is the ridiculous and asinine preference of a majority of attractive "females" on this site for old men, would simply be to change the age in your profile to match their preference. That's exactly what I did.

There is a general rule on this site which is:
The younger and more attractive a white female sub is, the more likely she is to state a preference for blacks only and/or old men only in her profile. It's fucking bizarre but that's the reality of the situation. I see this crap every time I come here. Just today I came across yet another attractive 18 year old white girl with a well done, non-template profile. And what does she want? Anything, so long as it's Blacks only - of course. This site is complete inversion of reality. You'd also be well served by going elsewhere since the odds for straight white men here are positively abysmal. 10000:1 against or worse. Take my word for it, the only people getting any action from this site are fat, sloppy, old fucks who stopped caring decades ago. I've corresponded with other Doms through PM's and I know that everyone else is experiencing the same shit. There is no goldmine here for any man.

Bone dry in Indiana? I'm in a major city on the East Coast and it's the same shit out here. I have living accommodations, I can pay for relocation....think any of it matters? Not in the slightest. This site is crap for making things happen in RT. The sad thing is that this is the best bdsm site out there. Which means all the others are worse than crap...


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/6/2011 2:35:40 PM   
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Judging by your photo you could easily pass for a man in his late 20's or maybe even older. The simplest solution to your problems, which is the ridiculous and asinine preference of a majority of attractive "females" on this site for old men, would simply be to change the age in your profile to match their preference. That's exactly what I did.

There is a general rule on this site which is:
The younger and more attractive a white female sub is, the more likely she is to state a preference for blacks only and/or old men only in her profile. It's fucking bizarre but that's the reality of the situation. I see this crap every time I come here. Just today I came across yet another attractive 18 year old white girl with a well done, non-template profile. And what does she want? Anything, so long as it's Blacks only - of course. This site is complete inversion of reality. You'd also be well served by going elsewhere since the odds for straight white men here are positively abysmal. 10000:1 against or worse. Take my word for it, the only people getting any action from this site are fat, sloppy, old fucks who stopped caring decades ago. I've corresponded with other Doms through PM's and I know that everyone else is experiencing the same shit. There is no goldmine here for any man.

Bone dry in Indiana? I'm in a major city on the East Coast and it's the same shit out here. I have living accommodations, I can pay for relocation....think any of it matters? Not in the slightest. This site is crap for making things happen in RT. The sad thing is that this is the best bdsm site out there. Which means all the others are worse than crap...




The common denominator in your woes is you, but I suspect that never crossed your mind.

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