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Iamsemisweet -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:41:53 AM)



Yes, I did say that.  Because I am only semisweet, LOL.   I have a hard time faulting a young man who is trying hard to find a job (which I assume you are)and can't find one.  I know plenty of people with more experience and skills than you have at this point who are trying desperately to find work, but can't.   I also have a hard time faulting someone with health problems, which you apparently have.  I don't fault you for not being able to afford school, I still contend that is your parent's responsibility, and you are unlikely to even be able to get student loans without their help, even if you decide the debt is worth it. 
Your weight IS something you have control ovr.  If you are too overweight to join the military, then you definitely need to kick yourself in the ass.  It sounds like you are trying to get in shape, and I think you will find that it improves many aspects of your life.  It may even convince your parents that you really are trying, which may make them more amenable to helping you.
Anyway, I don't think a girl friend should be your priority now.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:46:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude... you never met a real parent apparently. We don't take whiny ass kids doing nothing for themselves and coddle them or fall for their little stories.

Our job is to teach you how to work life and it is work... apparently you have been allowed to be a pretty princess in your room thinking of fantasies far too long.



Two things here. One, if you're not going to believe the very real facts about my situation, then you have no business talking about "falling for their little stories". I have told you all nothing but the pure, hard truth.

Two, if you are not in a position to actually help me, don't try to tell me what it is or isn't "your job" to do. All I'm saying is, if you're willing to talk smack, put up or shut up. Dead serious.




LaTigresse -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:47:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wolvenreign

The issues of the last three posts would likely be abated by the post I made before this one.


Nope. Your last post is just as full of excuses and whiny as those before. You are still NOT taking responsibility for yourself. You are making excuses and whining about all the reasons you cannot.

I repeat. Get realistic about work.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:50:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign

The issues of the last three posts would likely be abated by the post I made before this one.


Nope. Your last post is just as full of excuses and whiny as those before. You are still NOT taking responsibility for yourself. You are making excuses and whining about all the reasons you cannot.

I repeat. Get realistic about work.



What about that post was whiny? That whole thing was to explain that I wasn't whining and was seeking real help. And I am appreciative of those who have given me answers that I have yet to go through with (and am currently pursuing). This kind of attitude is exactly what I was talking about; if I'm not 100 percent bright and shiny in my attitude, even if it's not negative, then you're likely to dismiss it as whining. That's just people's first reaction to seeing a sad IRL situation on a medium they are used to having provide entertainment for them.




Lockit -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:54:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude... you never met a real parent apparently. We don't take whiny ass kids doing nothing for themselves and coddle them or fall for their little stories.

Our job is to teach you how to work life and it is work... apparently you have been allowed to be a pretty princess in your room thinking of fantasies far too long.



Two things here. One, if you're not going to believe the very real facts about my situation, then you have no business talking about "falling for their little stories". I have told you all nothing but the pure, hard truth.

Two, if you are not in a position to actually help me, don't try to tell me what it is or isn't "your job" to do. All I'm saying is, if you're willing to talk smack, put up or shut up. Dead serious.


Okay sweetheart, you got it. Do you know the limitations I have? I worked, I raised a family and I worked my ass off doing things I never wish to do again... but I would if I had to.  I have a genetic illness that kicks my ass, I have a spine that was curved from injury, surgery and now have bone on bone and I can't afford surgery on it again or for my teeth, I have a number of other illnesses... but... I did work the last three years, care for a brain damaged son, am writing as fast as I can to try to save my ass because I cannot work outside the home and cannot learn new things(in a normal setting and as quickly) because of my own brain damage from strokes. I don't live off parents, children or the tax payers. I am scrambling hard to find a new income since losing my private income because he owed the government and they take what he has left before I get to. I am not trying to fix my little problem with a tweaking clit that wants attention... I am working on saving my ass.

Your turn.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:58:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wolvenreign

I had recently explored the low-cost dental option. Thing is, this is oral surgery... They said they wouldn't do it
 
I am actually very capable, physically, except for a bum leg with an out-of-place tendon
 
As far as why I am overweight, you can thank a childhood of isolation with no motivation to do anything physical
 
there might be a way for you all to help me out... let me know if you know any voice acting studios
 
I have intense all-season allergies and a skin problem which makes it incredibly difficult to do anything for five seconds without scratching myself somewhere
 
I've hit my head on pavement too many times (slipping on ice and the like), and now I have a really bad short term memory



There... that about sums up yet ANOTHER big whine from you. 

Grow the hell up, already. Go wait tables, wash dishes, sweep floors, whatever... you'll get the exercise you need, and BONUS, some cash to boot for school and dental work. 

But you won't do that, will you?!!  No... because you're too fucking lazy and want someone else to keep wiping your ass for you -- just like you're doing here by asking people to help you locate voice-over studios BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO FUCKING LAZY TO DO YOUR OWN DAMN RESEARCH.

Yeah, real shocker that any girl with a brain wouldn't want a thing to do with you.  You're about as pathetic as pethetic gets!  Your parents should have booted you at 18... they've obviously learned their lesson and are likely hoping that booting your ass at 22, and forcing you to actually grow up and take some personal responsibility might actually save you from a life of endless whining and excuses.  From what I've read here, I doubt it.  [8|]





Kana -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 11:58:38 AM)

Kana's 2 cents.

I got sick of asking folks,"Want fries with that?"-went back to school at 32, paid my whole way through...which didn't amount to much.
How?
Easy.
I paid for the first semester at a community college, worked my ass off, got good grades, scored points with my profs, earned scholarships and when needed, took jobs at the school so that I could get discounted or free tuition. (And don't gimme no flak about "My school doesn't do academic scholarships." So fucking what. Go to a school that does. I upended my whole life and moved to go to a school that paid. Heck, I was willing to move to Montana. If one really wants a thing, they sacrifice to get it)
Ya know, I did it the old fashioned way, blood, sweat and tears. And hours and hours of work.
So stop whining and do.

Which leads me to my next point that, were I a sub/slave type, I would never ever do so for the OP.
Why?
Because negativity is unattractive, defeatism is unacceptable, and I don't see a damn thing dominant about whining.
Get it straight, son.
Gals care a whole lot less about things like weight/looks/jobs etc...and a whole lot more about who and what you are, as a man, as a partner, and as a human being. And the one thing that most women find sexiest is confidence.
Not arrogance. Not overweening false pride. Not being an oozing dickhead. But being sure in who and what you are.
So stop bellyaching, pull your head outta your ass (You'll know when it happens-there'll be a big popping sound), take a clear look at you life, where you are now and where you want to be, and then start fucking actualizing.
And for Christ's sake, stop kvetching.
Wanna know the difference between winners and losers in life?
Easy. Winners keep getting back up. Losers stay on the ground.





GreedyTop -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:02:32 PM)

I love you, Kana.. ;)




Lockit -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:03:44 PM)

Oh that short term memory... it can be helped. I know... I did the research and the work of it all... helping my really brain damaged son. Even he is taking out the trash, learning to cook and remembering.

You see... it takes work. Short term memory can be turned into long term memory, for which I am sure you still have. You work in patterns, you do the same thing over and over and over again until you get it. Took one year to teach my son how to make toast... he did it. You can to, unless you hung from a rope long enough to die and were brought back and will never recover or reroute the brain because damage was everywhere.

You were not damaged everywhere and your brain can relearn and reroute.

Got another something to pull out and add to the lists of why you cannot live as an adult?




LaTigresse -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:03:55 PM)

Okay, yeah, sure...........whatever you say. You are right. Continue on with your current M.O. as it is working so very well for you.

But.......you see. I am 49. I have two adult children who I've given advise similar to what I've told you. Even moreso I gave it to my daughter's husband. All three are gainfully employed and in good relationships. All three can afford health care. I am also gainfully employed, and working on my own little dream business in my spare time. I can also afford my own health care along with the care of all that I have taken responsibility for.

I've been working and supporting myself since I was 14. Giving my mother money to help pay the bills, then became a parent and married at age 16 and again at 18. A single parent when my youngest was 5. Except for a brief 3 months, I've managed to avoid government assistance, even though my ex has paid only about $ 2,000.00 EVER in child support. And on and on and on..... I never had the luxury of very much formal education. I fucking worked and proved I could do it. My kids chose to not go to college for 4 year degrees.......yet they have been quite successful, even with many road blocks and life obstacles.

We get out of life what we are willing to put into it. A lot of times, maybe even most of the time, it feels like we are putting in a lot more than we are getting out. But dammit, you just keep moving forward. Doing what needs to be done.

You have not yet succeeded at any of the above. Only given reasons why not. Do you see anything interesting about this?




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:08:30 PM)

Your issue is you want to start at the top and do "voice overs" -- who the hell are you kidding? You know how many people have great voices? Get over yourself and get a job.

Restaurants are always looking for dishwashers a/o bus boys. Cleaning, landscaping, and construction companies are always in need of cheap labor. Yes, you would have to work your ass off. It would help you lose weight and build some job skills and history at the same time.

Benedryl is cheap and should work for controlling seasonal allergies for the short term, and might even help with the skin itching.








wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:08:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude... you never met a real parent apparently. We don't take whiny ass kids doing nothing for themselves and coddle them or fall for their little stories.

Our job is to teach you how to work life and it is work... apparently you have been allowed to be a pretty princess in your room thinking of fantasies far too long.



Two things here. One, if you're not going to believe the very real facts about my situation, then you have no business talking about "falling for their little stories". I have told you all nothing but the pure, hard truth.

Two, if you are not in a position to actually help me, don't try to tell me what it is or isn't "your job" to do. All I'm saying is, if you're willing to talk smack, put up or shut up. Dead serious.


Okay sweetheart, you got it. Do you know the limitations I have? I worked, I raised a family and I worked my ass off doing things I never wish to do again... but I would if I had to.  I have a genetic illness that kicks my ass, I have a spine that was curved from injury, surgery and now have bone on bone and I can't afford surgery on it again or for my teeth, I have a number of other illnesses... but... I did work the last three years, care for a brain damaged son, am writing as fast as I can to try to save my ass because I cannot work outside the home and cannot learn new things because of my own brain damage from strokes. I don't live off parents, children or the tax payers. I am scrambling hard to find a new income since losing my private income because he owed the government and they take what he has left before I get to. I am not trying to fix my little problem with a tweaking clit that wants attention... I am working on saving my ass.

Your turn.



I didn't ask for the facts of your life and how you got through it. I asked if you could actually help me find a job in this area. If you can't, then you don't really have any business telling me the facts of my life and how you wouldn't tolerate it. And next we have...




fredllfixit -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:11:19 PM)

I'm not exactly in the first flush of youth, I've seen a lot of changes over the years. But there are some inescapable conclusions I'm driven to.
First, if you EXPORT many of your country's jobs to the far east, are you surprized there is an ongoing unemployment problem?
Second, how come (in the UK) young people complain about lack of work, and yet Poles, and other eastern european young people get themselves HERE and find work?
Third, when there is no real demand for them, why make so many university graduates? What are they supposed to do with their qualifications that no business wants?
Fourth, we were told joining the european community was going to be good for Britain. So why is just about every car on the roads in Britain not british now? Don't forget, prior to 1970 Britain was the world's SECOND largest manufacturer of motor vehicles.
Fifth and finally, why has every government I can remember just told us a huge mountain of crap about money and the economy? "The pound in your pocket or purse has not been devalued". Harold Wilson in the 1960s. 1968 gallon of petrol, 25 pence. 2011 gallon of petrol, 600 pence (£6). North of England house 1968 £2,500.  Same house 2011 £150,000.
After watching the antics of our supposed leaders for far too many years, I'm now convinced they all are, as near as dammit, CRIMINAL. There's no other word for it.
Who suffers most? The kids, the young people. They'll be paying-off all the astronomical money-fiddles and dodges for the rest of their natural. It's already started with university tuition fees -- any youngster proposing to go to university right now disagree? I think not.
Look how Japan has gone -- that's our fate, stagnation.
It's high time someone invented an honesty pill, and forced all the politicians and banksters to take them regularly; and some a bit lower down the chain too.
Go on, tell me I'm pessimistic. Frankly, I AM pessimistic. Look what the 1929 world financial collapse led to only 10 years later. I shudder to think what's in store for us ordinary mortals in the next ten years.
Fredllfixit.
Only I can't fix this problem. See God.





Lockit -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:11:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude... you never met a real parent apparently. We don't take whiny ass kids doing nothing for themselves and coddle them or fall for their little stories.

Our job is to teach you how to work life and it is work... apparently you have been allowed to be a pretty princess in your room thinking of fantasies far too long.



Two things here. One, if you're not going to believe the very real facts about my situation, then you have no business talking about "falling for their little stories". I have told you all nothing but the pure, hard truth.

Two, if you are not in a position to actually help me, don't try to tell me what it is or isn't "your job" to do. All I'm saying is, if you're willing to talk smack, put up or shut up. Dead serious.


Okay sweetheart, you got it. Do you know the limitations I have? I worked, I raised a family and I worked my ass off doing things I never wish to do again... but I would if I had to.  I have a genetic illness that kicks my ass, I have a spine that was curved from injury, surgery and now have bone on bone and I can't afford surgery on it again or for my teeth, I have a number of other illnesses... but... I did work the last three years, care for a brain damaged son, am writing as fast as I can to try to save my ass because I cannot work outside the home and cannot learn new things because of my own brain damage from strokes. I don't live off parents, children or the tax payers. I am scrambling hard to find a new income since losing my private income because he owed the government and they take what he has left before I get to. I am not trying to fix my little problem with a tweaking clit that wants attention... I am working on saving my ass.

Your turn.



I didn't ask for the facts of your life and how you got through it. I asked if you could actually help me find a job in this area. If you can't, then you don't really have any business telling me the facts of my life and how you wouldn't tolerate it. And next we have...



Confirmation that you want a hand out.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:11:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

quote:

ORIGINAL: wolvenreign

I had recently explored the low-cost dental option. Thing is, this is oral surgery... They said they wouldn't do it
 
I am actually very capable, physically, except for a bum leg with an out-of-place tendon
 
As far as why I am overweight, you can thank a childhood of isolation with no motivation to do anything physical
 
there might be a way for you all to help me out... let me know if you know any voice acting studios
 
I have intense all-season allergies and a skin problem which makes it incredibly difficult to do anything for five seconds without scratching myself somewhere
 
I've hit my head on pavement too many times (slipping on ice and the like), and now I have a really bad short term memory



There... that about sums up yet ANOTHER big whine from you. 

Grow the hell up, already. Go wait tables, wash dishes, sweep floors, whatever... you'll get the exercise you need, and BONUS, some cash to boot for school and dental work. 

But you won't do that, will you?!!  No... because you're too fucking lazy and want someone else to keep wiping your ass for you -- just like you're doing here by asking people to help you locate voice-over studios BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO FUCKING LAZY TO DO YOUR OWN DAMN RESEARCH.

Yeah, real shocker that any girl with a brain wouldn't want a thing to do with you.  You're about as pathetic as pethetic gets!  Your parents should have booted you at 18... they've obviously learned their lesson and are likely hoping that booting your ass at 22, and forcing you to actually grow up and take some personal responsibility might actually save you from a life of endless whining and excuses.  From what I've read here, I doubt it.  [8|]




See, this is the general thread of logic that seems to be prevalent in most "you're just whining" posts. Stating sad facts about life = whining? Hardly. This is why I say that people automatically assume you're whining if you mention anything less than the utmost shiniest, positive, entertaining thing you can think of on the forums.

Seriously folks, when I say something bad about my situation? It's because it's real and not because I need someone to complain to. Frankly, though, if anyone says I'm whining after this, they had better come packing with a reason as to why it's whining and why I am not just stating truth. Which you'll have a hard time proving, since I am the number one authority on my intentions.




LaTigresse -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:12:27 PM)

And yet dear OP you insist you are not whining......but but........everyone with half a brain that reads your shit is seeing guess what?!?!?! WHINING!

Yeah, I am being a nasty bitch. It's okay, you can say so. But yanno, telling you it's allllllllllll gonna be okay and giving you more stroking and excuses isn't going to help you pull your head out of your ass.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:13:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Okay, yeah, sure...........whatever you say. You are right. Continue on with your current M.O. as it is working so very well for you.

But.......you see. I am 49. I have two adult children who I've given advise similar to what I've told you. Even moreso I gave it to my daughter's husband. All three are gainfully employed and in good relationships. All three can afford health care. I am also gainfully employed, and working on my own little dream business in my spare time. I can also afford my own health care along with the care of all that I have taken responsibility for.

I've been working and supporting myself since I was 14. Giving my mother money to help pay the bills, then became a parent and married at age 16 and again at 18. A single parent when my youngest was 5. Except for a brief 3 months, I've managed to avoid government assistance, even though my ex has paid only about $ 2,000.00 EVER in child support. And on and on and on..... I never had the luxury of very much formal education. I fucking worked and proved I could do it. My kids chose to not go to college for 4 year degrees.......yet they have been quite successful, even with many road blocks and life obstacles.

We get out of life what we are willing to put into it. A lot of times, maybe even most of the time, it feels like we are putting in a lot more than we are getting out. But dammit, you just keep moving forward. Doing what needs to be done.

You have not yet succeeded at any of the above. Only given reasons why not. Do you see anything interesting about this?



See, it's real nice that you can share stories about your own hardships, but as far as I can see? You did solve your problems. It's cool to hear parables about how things were in the old days, but I'm facing problems NOW. I've already said that I conclude that it isn't the best idea for me to seek a sub right now.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:14:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

And yet dear OP you insist you are not whining......but but........everyone with half a brain that reads your shit is seeing guess what?!?!?! WHINING!

Yeah, I am being a nasty bitch. It's okay, you can say so. But yanno, telling you it's allllllllllll gonna be okay and giving you more stroking and excuses isn't going to help you pull your head out of your ass.



Not a single thing about this post disproved anything I said about people's assumptions that I'm whining.




wolvenreign -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:16:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Your issue is you want to start at the top and do "voice overs" -- who the hell are you kidding? You know how many people have great voices? Get over yourself and get a job.

Restaurants are always looking for dishwashers a/o bus boys. Cleaning, landscaping, and construction companies are always in need of cheap labor. Yes, you would have to work your ass off. It would help you lose weight and build some job skills and history at the same time.

Benedryl is cheap and should work for controlling seasonal allergies for the short term, and might even help with the skin itching.







Ah, let me clarify. I am totally willing to do lesser work. It just hasn't happened, no matter who I apply to. I am seeking VA since it would give me some very nice startup capital to try CPA+PPC. I don't arrogantly assume that I'm going to start at the top, and I do realize it is a difficult thing to break into.




Lockit -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (9/30/2011 12:17:17 PM)

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Hawaii anyone?




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