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rulemylife -> RE: I renounce Christianity (9/30/2011 2:24:25 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: SpanishMatMaster
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
(Latin omnipotentia, from omnia and potens, able to do all things). Omnipotence is the power of God to effect whatever is not intrinsically impossible.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11251c.htm
And here you have it, Cheri. Using the catholic Catechism instead of the dictionary, Real0ne (as many Catholics) simply reinterprets what is told in the Bible to avoid the contradiction and resolve the problem, acquiring the first answer of my list.
So, for him, God is not omnipotent (not what the dictionary, you, me, and the original authors of the veterotestamentary textes understood under it), but has a "limited power" which avoids the problem.
He could not prevent the tsunami, he could not prevent the floods, he cannot prevent people from killing each other and respect their freedom at the same time, etc, etc, etc.
This is how he resolved the problem.
Best regards.
its fairly good actually. I am in a different space than any of this. I went through my trial by fire before these kids were born.
They and you want to get involved in some of the most esoteric philosophy and theology known to man before they learn to crawl.
This is a good place to learn. You might read some of this, but then of course your purpose may be more to throw rocks at what you do not understand?
Another class of intrinsic impossibilities includes all that would simultaneously connote mutually repellent elements, e.g. a square circle, an infinite creature, etc. God cannot effect the non-existence of actual events of the past, for it contradictory that the same thing that has happened should also not have happened. Omnipotence is perfect power, free from all mere potentiality. Hence, although God does not bring into external being all that He is able to accomplish, His power must not be understood as passing through successive stages before its effect is accomplished. The activity of God is simple and eternal, without evolution or change. The transition from possibility to actuality or from act to potentiality, occurs only in creatures. When it is said that God can or could do a thing, the terms are not to be understood in the sense in which they are applied to created causes, but as conveying the idea of a Being possessed of infinite unchangeable power, the range of Whose activity is limited only by His sovereign Will. "Power," says St. Thomas, "is not attributed to God as a thing really different from His Knowledge and Will, but as something expressed by a different concept, since power means that which executes the command of the will and the advice of the intellect. These three (viz., intellect, will, power), coincide with one another in God" (Summa, I, Q. xxv, a. 1, ad 4). Omnipotence is all-sufficient power. The adaptation of means to ends in the universe does not argue, as J.S. Mill would have it, that the power of the designer is limited, but only that God has willed to manifest His glory by a world so constituted rather than by another. Indeed the production of secondary causes, capable of accomplishing certain effects, requires greater power than the direct accomplishment of these same effects. On the other hand even though no creature existed, God's power not be barren, for creatures are not an end to God.
From what I have seen you and the girls are missing some core fundamental elements of understanding.
As I said one cannot bring you or anyone else to wisdom.
Thats not an insult its just the way life and maturing rolls.
In other words you are pretty much insane.
You spout a lot of words but very few of them are coherent.
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