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Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man "ra... - 9/30/2011 12:02:34 PM   
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This morning, as I left the gym with quivering, unsteady legs, I was reminded of a fantasy I had years ago but haven't entertained much lately: being made to exercise to utter exhaustion--I'm talking can't do a push-up on my knees, can't do an unweighted squat without collapsing, can't stand up straight without cloudy vision--and then ass-raped by a woman with a strap-on. Theoretically, shouldn't any man, no matter how fit, be capable of being temporarily transformed into goo by a cruel and unusual workout? And shouldn't a fresh-and-rested female strength trainer be able to literally manhandle such a guy by striking while the iron is hot? It would be amazing to fight as hard as I could and realize I was truly weak as a kitten.

Also, to christen this an official wank-fodder thread: Is thEre any Dommes who wuldd be intreresttted in doing this too meee?

Come on, Peon, Mr. Abs--you know you want to chime in.


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 12:13:46 PM   
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Also, to christen this an official wank-fodder thread: Is thEre any Dommes who wuldd be intreresttted in doing this too meee?




this made me "LOL" =p hahaha
i'm sorry, not intending to hijack .. carry on =p
*snicker snicker*
(this is an interesting thread, though; i've met guys into force play but i've never really understood how they would go about doing it -- this is an interesting scenario =p)


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:20:52 PM   
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Hm. So, a takedown scene on someone...who was essentially already down?

This sounds like Limited Fun. How hard can you get when you're in that condition?

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:25:25 PM   
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Hm. So, a takedown scene on someone...who was essentially already down?

This sounds like Limited Fun. How hard can you get when you're in that condition?

He isnt. you're supposed to peg hell out of him.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:28:15 PM   
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Dearest Hilly. Already I know that you have a virgin ass.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:32:53 PM   
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Someone's still fantasizing about their fitness instructor!!!

I bet you suddenly spend way more time in the company gym huh?

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:33:00 PM   
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You also know that Im good at takedown scenes. As the top.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 1:56:33 PM   
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I frequently tickle my guy cuz I know it's going to end up with me on the floor, begging for mercy.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 2:42:35 PM   
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Well, if I were interested in a dead lay... nothing but plugging a guy already down... maybe... but I like my guys fully ready for some real action. It isn't all about plugging his ass... I'd like a bit of fun too.

I can't have a fantasy of a bad lay... there are too many of the real things to make that a part of a wish list. I'd rather find real power in making him squirm, cry out and beg for more and then giving me a real good.. lay.

He can work his ass into a coma, when I don't want play time.


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 2:54:51 PM   
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Pfft. Ass-'raping' a puddle of goo. Where's the fun in that? And actually, that for me would be a turn-off and a hard limit; he moment it seems non-mutual or non-consensual is goodbye, wide-on. The turn-on for me is when a big, strong, more-than-willing man begs and submits.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 3:02:38 PM   
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Begging = EW for me. He can say Please very nicely, though!

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 3:10:25 PM   
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I'd much rather a man who is fresh and rested and fully capable of resisting just....DOESN'T....and bends over willingly for my strap-on. It's MUCH more fun that way when he really WANTS it.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 9/30/2011 9:55:15 PM   
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Someone's still fantasizing about their fitness instructor!!!

I bet you suddenly spend way more time in the company gym huh?


Ha ha. You caught me. I hope she doesn't suspect a tenth of what's on my mind.


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 2:01:21 PM   
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I am trying to see an upside here. I know more than a few women who enjoy the fantasy of being caught off guard and used without the ability to defend themselves. I totally get that part. And I have known at least a couple of women who were capable of kicking some guys ass across the room and back. (I myself have tossed one off a landing). I even knew one women when I was much younger who enjoyed the idea of making some guy her bitch and shoving something up his ass (she had anger issues).
But.. If the woman is using his ass with a piece of something that is not her flesh, not stimulating her in some way.. what is she getting out of taking some guy that is just laying there?
I mean.. except for my old acquaintence with anger issues.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 7:21:27 PM   
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But.. If the woman is using his ass with a piece of something that is not her flesh, not stimulating her in some way.. what is she getting out of taking some guy that is just laying there?
I mean.. except for my old acquaintence with anger issues.


Still have her number?

It wouldn't have to be a strap-on session. That was the first thing that came to mind, but it could also be a spanking, "forced" oral sex, face-slapping, or a dozen other things. Even just being taken by the chin and lectured while my muscles were violently quivering would be hot. I'm really showing my do-me bottom tendencies here, aren't I? Well, yeah, I guess I am, but I also wouldn't want to do any of this if I felt it was an onerous chore for the woman. I'm a far cry from a service-driven submissive (usually), but I much prefer it when my selfish pleasures give equal pleasure to my partners.

What gratification might a woman get out of strap-on-fucking Superman after giving him a kryptonite bath? I have to admit that the question itself leaves me a bit flummoxed. I think I'm so hardwired to enjoy physical helplessness and brute force for their own sake (as both a top and a bottom) that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that someone else who identifies as kinky doesn't intuitively understand the appeal. That's my limitation, not yours. When I manhandle a submissive woman who's much weaker than me physically, I experience incredible pleasure whether or not my dick is inside her. The satisfaction I find in her powerlessness, and my untethered ability to make her weep and beg with utter sincerity, eclipses any sexual pleasure I might experience, to such an extent that sex is almost incidental. Maybe I'm more different than I thought.


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 8:52:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

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But.. If the woman is using his ass with a piece of something that is not her flesh, not stimulating her in some way.. what is she getting out of taking some guy that is just laying there?
I mean.. except for my old acquaintence with anger issues.


Still have her number?

It wouldn't have to be a strap-on session. That was the first thing that came to mind, but it could also be a spanking, "forced" oral sex, face-slapping, or a dozen other things. Even just being taken by the chin and lectured while my muscles were violently quivering would be hot. I'm really showing my do-me bottom tendencies here, aren't I? Well, yeah, I guess I am, but I also wouldn't want to do any of this if I felt it was an onerous chore for the woman. I'm a far cry from a service-driven submissive (usually), but I much prefer it when my selfish pleasures give equal pleasure to my partners.

What gratification might a woman get out of strap-on-fucking Superman after giving him a kryptonite bath? I have to admit that the question itself leaves me a bit flummoxed. I think I'm so hardwired to enjoy physical helplessness and brute force for their own sake (as both a top and a bottom) that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that someone else who identifies as kinky doesn't intuitively understand the appeal. That's my limitation, not yours. When I manhandle a submissive woman who's much weaker than me physically, I experience incredible pleasure whether or not my dick is inside her. The satisfaction I find in her powerlessness, and my untethered ability to make her weep and beg with utter sincerity, eclipses any sexual pleasure I might experience, to such an extent that sex is almost incidental. Maybe I'm more different than I thought.




The problem I see with Missokyst's quote is that the same question could apply to any bdsm activity that doesn't lead to direct and intense sexual stimulation. What if the guy is bound instead of just lying there? What if a top, male or female, whips or beats or bites or tickles a bottom. None of this leads to direct sexual stimulation for the top. Why is it satisfying to anyone. Yet, I think most people would agree that this type of play happens a lot. It is arguable that a big part of the thrill of being a top is the empathic understanding that the top is both controlling the experiences of and providing a rush to the bottom - perhaps not all that different from vanilla sex where one person is pleasuring another without bringing direct sexual pleasure to themselves (oral sex for example).

NiceGuyNihilist, the problem with this whole thread is that it just isn't a practical or plausbile scene in most circumstances. It is an understandable type of fantasy, for a male bottom or sub to want a woman to be able to physically control him without any consensual gimics like bondage, but if you are a guy of any significant size or strength how many women can realistically carry out this type of scene on you? And of the few who can, how many are actually going to be interested in doing it. There are already far more male bottoms than there are female tops, and this type of scene makes it a true search for a needle in a haystack.

I would suggest, if you really want to pursue this type of scene, you either need to improvise or seek out professionals. I had a girlfriend when I was in grad school who liked to jump me from behind and try to lock me in carotid choke holds and she would catch me from time to time. I have also had tops "overpower" me with my hands tied behind my back - and I'm a big gorilla of a guy so this was plenty cool for me.

On the other hand, this is the one type of scene I would advocate looking to pros to experience at least once if your curiousity is strong enough. Several years ago, my curiosity got the better of me and I tried a couple of pro sessions with three dommes at a time for this type of scene. I talked with them quite a bit before hand, and they were all lifestyle dommes as well as pros and they gave me a very good "rate" in large part because it was such a novel type of scene and they were curious about it themselves. I basically said take me down and overpower me and then do whatever you feel like doing to me and that is exactly what they did and they were brutally rough (and even rougher the second time).

Be careful what you wish for though, because having three strangers you have no established trust bond with overpower you that forcefully and treat you that roughly can be a little nerve wracking and more than a bit humbling. In the end, it did give me an appreciation for women as being more physically capable then I previously thought and it also gave me at least some perspective of the type of physical trust women must have to put in men in social interaction in general - assuming the men are considerably larger and stronger. So, overall, it was an experiment I do not regret, and in fact I still have contact with one of the women, several years later as it was a particularly interesting scene for her as well.

Short of these two approaches, it is probably a fantasy best left to the imagination.

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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 10:01:04 PM   
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Having been a top I can relate to the idea of giving someone the sort of play I like. I enjoy being ravished. I TRY to get something out of it when I am turning the tables on my target. But honestly it does nothing for me other than give me a momentary bit of pleasure/pride for a job well done. Physically and mentally it does little for me other than make me wish the guy was not a bottom.
Thats why I am not dominant. I get nothing from that end. I consider topping as service, and not meant for me to get anything out of it.
Oh.. and my good buddy Mickie ended up switching to girls.


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I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that someone else who identifies as kinky doesn't intuitively understand the appeal. That's my limitation, not yours. When I manhandle a submissive woman who's much weaker than me physically, I experience incredible pleasure whether or not my dick is inside her. The satisfaction I find in her powerlessness, and my untethered ability to make her weep and beg with utter sincerity, eclipses any sexual pleasure I might experience, to such an extent that sex is almost incidental. Maybe I'm more different than I thought.




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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 10:06:37 PM   
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This morning, as I left the gym with quivering, unsteady legs, I was reminded of a fantasy I had years ago but haven't entertained much lately: being made to exercise to utter exhaustion--I'm talking can't do a push-up on my knees, can't do an unweighted squat without collapsing, can't stand up straight without cloudy vision--and then ass-raped by a woman with a strap-on. Theoretically, shouldn't any man, no matter how fit, be capable of being temporarily transformed into goo by a cruel and unusual workout? And shouldn't a fresh-and-rested female strength trainer be able to literally manhandle such a guy by striking while the iron is hot? It would be amazing to fight as hard as I could and realize I was truly weak as a kitten.

Also, to christen this an official wank-fodder thread: Is thEre any Dommes who wuldd be intreresttted in doing this too meee?

Come on, Peon, Mr. Abs--you know you want to chime in.



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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 10:06:56 PM   
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Fantastic post, strongbottom.

I don't know that it's all that unfeasible to find a chick who can honest-to-God beat me up. Years ago a rail-thin hottie at a play party asked me to do a wrestling scene with her. Between my size and her obvious background in some kind of grappling art, we were quite evenly matched. If she'd been somewhat stronger, things would've gone badly (depending on how you look at it) for me very fast.

When you were fully under their control and being roughly handled, was there ever a moment when you thought, "Shit, I really made a mistake"? There's a part of me that would love to feel that way.


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RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man &quo... - 10/4/2011 10:08:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JanahX


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This morning, as I left the gym with quivering, unsteady legs, I was reminded of a fantasy I had years ago but haven't entertained much lately: being made to exercise to utter exhaustion--I'm talking can't do a push-up on my knees, can't do an unweighted squat without collapsing, can't stand up straight without cloudy vision--and then ass-raped by a woman with a strap-on. Theoretically, shouldn't any man, no matter how fit, be capable of being temporarily transformed into goo by a cruel and unusual workout? And shouldn't a fresh-and-rested female strength trainer be able to literally manhandle such a guy by striking while the iron is hot? It would be amazing to fight as hard as I could and realize I was truly weak as a kitten.

Also, to christen this an official wank-fodder thread: Is thEre any Dommes who wuldd be intreresttted in doing this too meee?

Come on, Peon, Mr. Abs--you know you want to chime in.



BORING !!!! .... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz





Uh, thanks for your thoughtful contribution?


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