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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 10:55:02 AM

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Well that sounds easier than raising taxes on corporations and the top 1%, I mean if someone is in the hospital, with no insurance than they will not be able to vote or donate money.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 11:54:33 AM

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So then we can bring back "The Burning Bed" and its a viable defense.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 12:02:10 PM

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seems like freedom and liberty doesnt quite cover women in topeka

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 12:41:43 PM

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Not, assualt is a misdemeanor... killing the bastard for beating her is a felony. That they will prosecute.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 1:07:33 PM

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such forward thinking
who needs sharia law!

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/8/2011 1:22:01 PM

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Exactly why I believe every woman should own a gun and be willing/able to use it. Few bullies stick around when they realize I intend to stiock a gun up their ass and blow their brains out. Wish I'd done just that to my ex-husband.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 8:44:22 AM

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Thought I'd mention the thread title isn't quite accurate...lots here in Topeka are not happy with this game of political chicken.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 9:04:38 AM

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The city leaders seem to be, and thats what the thread says.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 9:12:30 AM

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I only mentioned the thread title. :p Lighten up though, IMO. It was a quip to point out that there is protesting here over this.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 10:28:54 AM

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quote:

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Thought I'd mention the thread title isn't quite accurate...lots here in Topeka are not happy with this game of political chicken.

You are in Topeka?

I am in Lawrence, hence my interest in this story.

The reason for the wording on the thread title was to get people's attention.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 10:38:13 AM

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The reason for the wording on the thread title was to get people's attention.

Totally fair, hehe, which is why I wasn't in arms over it. Like I said, I was just making a quip about it. =)

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 7:47:40 PM

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I am sorry, Aylee, but the title of your thread is discriminatory in many levels, and plain wrong.
With that title, you are lying. Lying in a discriminatory way. Plus, lying in a defamatory way.
Lie. Defamation. Discrimination. I wonder if you think that "the goal justified the means" or something, but as for me, you have provoked much more rejection against your title as against Topeka, Kansas.
Still - best regards.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 7:55:55 PM

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I am sorry, Aylee, but the title of your thread is discriminatory in many levels, and plain wrong.
With that title, you are lying. Lying in a discriminatory way. Plus, lying in a defamatory way.
Lie. Defamation. Discrimination. I wonder if you think that "the goal justified the means" or something, but as for me, you have provoked much more rejection against your title as against Topeka, Kansas.
Still - best regards.

How is it discriminatory? Most domestic abuse victims are women. Highlighted... and worded strongly, but not discriminatory from what I can see. They basically are saying it is okay, although they say it is wrong and still a crime, they are arresting and then letting them go without a court date to actually do something about it. So in essence they are saying it is okay to the criminal mind of an abuser. He/she has free reign to do what he/she wants without being punished. Long way around... but it amounts to... go for it dudes/dudettes... you won't get into trouble for it.

Political economic grandstanding at the expense of those most vulnerable to the crime.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 8:21:00 PM

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How is it discriminatory? Most domestic abuse victims are women.

But not all, hence you are discriminating against men. Some of them, children.
And the title lies in another way - it suggests that slapping men will be prosecuted. And that Topeka does not consider ok to slap men, only women. And this is not true and defamatory.
It is like forbidding women to work in construction because "most of them do not want or are not strong enough". It is still discrimination, even if true.
If you want I can make you a more detailed analysis, but I think that the sample could be enough.

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They basically are saying it is okay,

No, they are not. They are exactly saying what they are saying. That they have no money to prosecute it, that they have to choose, and that they choose, from all kinds of crimes, not to prosecute that one.
I am not saying that I agree with the measure. However, the title is discriminatory and defamatory.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 8:29:53 PM

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quote:

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How is it discriminatory? Most domestic abuse victims are women.

But not all, hence you are discriminating against men. Some of them, children.
It is like forbidding women to work in construction because "most of them do not want or are not strong enough". It is still discrimination, even if true.
If you want I can make you a more detailed analysis, but I think that the sample could be enough.

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They basically are saying it is okay,

No, they are not. They are exactly saying what they are saying. That they have no money to prosecute it, that they have to choose, and that they choose, from all kinds of crimes, not to prosecute that one.
I am not saying that I agree with the measure. However, the title is discriminatory and defamatory.

Okay... I don't see that her intent was to be discriminatory. Fine lining it... I guess you could say so. I still don't think it was her motive or intent. Being reasonable... knowing full well that all domestic abuse victims are not women... but most are women and children and in a state that already says that parents can use an item to hit children as long as it isn't unto death or death force... like my grandsons situation... I think it says a lot about the state and now a city that is decriminalizing domestic abuse. I feel domestic abuse should be a more serious crime. If it were the crime it should be, this wouldn't be an issue.

Saying she was lying was a bit of a stretch though. Bet you enjoyed that didn't you? She simply didn't say... men/women/children or domestic abuse victims. She singled one out and on a fine line you could say it was discriminatory... but a lie... no.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 8:34:57 PM

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Child abuse is child abuse.. not domestic violence.

No one suggested men being slapped would be prosecuted. You opted to read into that as you wanted too.

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No, they are not. They are exactly saying what they are saying. That they have no money to prosecute it, that they have to choose, and that they choose, from all kinds of crimes, not to prosecute that one.
I am not saying that I agree with the measure. However, the title is discriminatory and defamatory.

They are saying misdemeanors will not be prosecuted. The domestic violence one was used in the article, so of course it would show up in the title.

As far as I am concerned, the whole issue of them dropping domestic abuse is discriminatory and defamatory. Why should those victims be any less represented than someone who had their car stolen? Btw, grand theft auto is a felony while beating the shit out of someone is a misdemeanor.

Someone may want to quote this because, sadly, spanish guy has me on hide and wont see the folly of his words otherwise.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/9/2011 8:42:33 PM

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Dear Lockit, I answered already.
I just to add - please consider that the thread title also discriminates against male chidren.
No, I do not enjoy discrimination and your suggestion that I do is trolling.
Nor do I enjoy lies. And it was a lie, for the two reasons I explained already.

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/10/2011 7:05:51 AM

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Child abuse is child abuse.. not domestic violence.

No one suggested men being slapped would be prosecuted. You opted to read into that as you wanted too.

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No, they are not. They are exactly saying what they are saying. That they have no money to prosecute it, that they have to choose, and that they choose, from all kinds of crimes, not to prosecute that one.
I am not saying that I agree with the measure. However, the title is discriminatory and defamatory.

They are saying misdemeanors will not be prosecuted. The domestic violence one was used in the article, so of course it would show up in the title.

As far as I am concerned, the whole issue of them dropping domestic abuse is discriminatory and defamatory. Why should those victims be any less represented than someone who had their car stolen? Btw, grand theft auto is a felony while beating the shit out of someone is a misdemeanor.

Someone may want to quote this because, sadly, spanish guy has me on hide and wont see the folly of his words otherwise.

As far as I know I haven't been honored with his hide so, here ya go tazzy

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/10/2011 7:10:54 AM

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Thanky boi

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RE: Topeka, Kansas is okay with slapping women around - 10/10/2011 7:11:52 AM

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URE NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
snickers, I was gonna do it, but then he hid me dayssssssssss ago
I still havent got over the shame*sniff*

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