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Fireworks: MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell's Hostile Interview With Herman Cain

Lawrence O'Donnell tries to pit Herman Cain as anti-black and a draft dodger in a bizarre interview that didn't seem have to a point other than to attack Mr. Cain. However, the GOP presidential candidate stayed on his feet throughout the entire interview and didn't let O'Donnell's mind games get to him.


Mr. Cain worked for the Navy in the field of ballistics during the war. Lawrence O'Donnell? He received a deferment since he was attending college.

O'Donnell tried to paint Cain as some sort of traitor to blacks because he didn't participate in protests and sit-ins during the Civil Rights era.

"I did not insult the intelligence of all black Americans," Herman Cain said about his 'brainwashing' comment. "I insulted the attitude of those that will not consider an alternate idea." He also said black voters "did not consider my statement insulting because a lot of them are thinking for themselves."

"Now, if they want to talk about insulting, they need to look at the president when he talks to the Congressional Black Caucus and insulted black people, in my opinion, by telling them to take off their slippers and put on their marching boots when he has had nothing but failed policies," Cain said in response to Lawrence accusing him of insulting black Americans.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Let's see. A left leaning news station interviews a Republican conservative candidate and the questioning can be viewed as hostile.

WOWWWWWWWW Imagine that. I'm fucking FLABBERGASTED. I mean, who would have thought about such a thing?

The next question is this. What the FUCK does it have to do with Cain being black or not?

Anyone race baiting maybe? Sanity? anyone?

Edited to add "Sarcasm font" because some won't get it.

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The spectacular failure of Aquila's trading venture practically wiped out the hard-earned retirement savings of veteran employees. Richard Itteilag, a plaintiff in the Aquila class action, lost 87 percent of his savings. Robert Goodson, a 20-year Aquila employee, lost 75 percent. Michael Reinhardt lost a staggering 94 percent. All told, thousands of employees saw their retirement funds eviscerated thanks to Aquila's Enron-esque activities. (In 2007, Aquila settled with the employees for $10.5 million. Not long after, Aquila merged with other Midwestern energy companies and now no longer operates as Aquila.)

Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting. A month after the Kansas City Star reported on the hefty bonuses in July 2002, the company laid off 500 employees, and the losses to employees holding company stock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars.

As a board member, Cain would've had direct knowledge of Aquila's activities, says Fred Taylor Isquith, a New York attorney who litigated the employee class action. Asked if it was fair to place blame on Cain for the debacle at Aquila, Isquith replied, "Yes, I believe it is." http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-aquila-l...

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We have our superfecta.

Firm

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The spectacular failure of Aquila's trading venture practically wiped out the hard-earned retirement savings of veteran employees. Richard Itteilag, a plaintiff in the Aquila class action, lost 87 percent of his savings. Robert Goodson, a 20-year Aquila employee, lost 75 percent. Michael Reinhardt lost a staggering 94 percent. All told, thousands of employees saw their retirement funds eviscerated thanks to Aquila's Enron-esque activities. (In 2007, Aquila settled with the employees for $10.5 million. Not long after, Aquila merged with other Midwestern energy companies and now no longer operates as Aquila.)

Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting. A month after the Kansas City Star reported on the hefty bonuses in July 2002, the company laid off 500 employees, and the losses to employees holding company stock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars.

As a board member, Cain would've had direct knowledge of Aquila's activities, says Fred Taylor Isquith, a New York attorney who litigated the employee class action. Asked if it was fair to place blame on Cain for the debacle at Aquila, Isquith replied, "Yes, I believe it is." http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-aquila-l...

We have our superfecta.

Firm

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We have our superfecta.

Firm

Maybe you should check the guy out instead of going on gut feeling. :)

You come across as pretty knowledgeable in politics so I'm a little surprised that you're missing some of the obvious things on him.

You know he's flip flopping right? He's a big business and Fed guy and is only co-opting Ron Paul's message as many of them are. Why trust someone that does that to win votes?

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Firm, the bankrupting sort of individuals are of particular interest and very worth the discussion and should not be considered a slam against the entire party, but yanno, we had one of those and as their business acumen goes, so goes the nation. So, what's the beef?

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EH, fuck that.

Cain served on the board of directors throughout Aquila's ill-fated trading misadventure and the subsequent collapse of the company's retirement fund. In fact, he chaired the board's compensation committee.

As chair of the compensation committee, Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting.

http://www.law360.com/articles/30637/aquila-settles-erisa-lawsuit-for-10-5m.

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Remember the little ditty you said about carpet munchers?

There is more here thats ON RECORD of fiscal irresponsibility than the epic feat of grandeloquence of a necktie in some minor seat of jurisprudence at the Dismal Seepage, Alabama justice of the peace's office.

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Mother Jones isn't exactly "conservative friendly", and so far there is nothing much other than them pointing the finger at him because he was on a Board of Directors, with "associative guilt" about something that I suspect they know little about. (In other words, the meme they are pushing is "those dirty evil rich people" liberal meme). Nothing even criminal. Just hatred.

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The results were not what some wanted it to be. So far, I've seen nothing that has been shown be criminal.

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Let's see. A left leaning news station interviews a Republican conservative candidate and the questioning can be viewed as hostile.

WOWWWWWWWW Imagine that. I'm fucking FLABBERGASTED. I mean, who would have thought about such a thing?

The next question is this. What the FUCK does it have to do with Cain being black or not?

Anyone race baiting maybe? Sanity? anyone?

Edited to add "Sarcasm font" because some won't get it.

O'Donnell is suppose to be a journalist.

As I said before, as Cain rises in the polls, the mainstream media will attempt to paint him as any or all of: 1) a racist, 2) a criminal or 3) stupid.  Someone else (willbur, sanity?) said that I forgot to add 4) draft dodger.

Looks like this was an attempt at 1 and 4.  See Directo's thread about "Lincoln" for an attempt at number 3.

I can guarantee that the opposition research is digging into his time with Pillsbury, Burger King and Godfathers to find crap that they can sling around, "raise questions" and generally sully his reputation in area 2).

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Mother Jones isn't exactly "conservative friendly", and so far there is nothing much other than them pointing the finger at him because he was on a Board of Directors, with "associative guilt" about something that I suspect they know little about. (In other words, the meme they are pushing is "those dirty evil rich people" liberal meme). Nothing even criminal. Just hatred.

Okay, then why not research for yourself.

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say Dr.Paul doesn't have balls. I see him as someone who is courageous in the face of opposition. Hell, he has a what, 30 year career of standing on his principle in congress.

I say, maybe you should take the time if you haven't and find out everything you can on everyone.

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Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting. A month after the Kansas City Star reported on the hefty bonuses in July 2002, the company laid off 500 employees, and the losses to employees holding company stock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars.

It doesn't seem to be associative guilt there.

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The results were not what some wanted it to be. So far, I've seen nothing that has been shown be criminal.

What if it wasn't criminal? Does that make it okay if he gave bonuses while the stock dropped? Just that little bit alone bothers me because that sure as hell reminds me of corporate bailouts. Ya know the ones.. where they cried about needing the money because they were going out of business and then dished out millions as bonuses.

Same thing. Stockholders are losing money and they are getting bonuses for a job well done.

I've seen enough of him to know he'll be bad for this country and just more of the same.

Libertarian is the way I lean too and sorry man but voting anybody but who I believe in isn't gonna cut it. I'll write Dr.Paul in.

Anyway.. outta here.. gotta campaign to help.