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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:09:40 AM   
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:14:04 AM   
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:22:17 AM   
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:24:23 AM   
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jeezuzs, kevvie..give it a rest....


I think he has the hots for you and posts ludicrous and nonsensical posts in the hops you will respond. *grin*

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:30:37 AM   
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:31:23 AM   
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The way we take care of the unemployed in a free society, as opposed to a nanny-state, Orchid, is by promoting an environment of economic growth and recovery.


That statement reminds me of all the people who carry on about how the market is all about supply and demand...yada yada. But why didn't that same mindset apply to the banks and all of those bailouts they handily accepted? Personally I would have liked to have seen them either survive or tank without the bailout money. Yeah, it would have had consequences, and domino effects, etc. etc. But I think the end result would have been far better than what's going on now.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:34:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed the banks should pay for their mess they created. And there shoudl be an embargo on bonuses in all companies. Giving bonuses to workers at a time when so many are unemployed is simply indefensible. what are these bonus workers doing to improve the situation ? nothing thats what they are just taking their salaries and running and accepting their bonuses and running , therefore they should NOT be given bonuses PERIOD
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:38:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wasn't talking about bonuses. I was referring to the bailout money. Yes, I know some of it was used for bonuses, but that wasn't my point. My feeling on it is that the banks shouldn't have been given any bailout money and let the cards fall as they may. If that meant a mulch-conglomerate, international firm crumbles into the dust, so be it. There will be a void left behind that others will scramble to fill and all those who lost their jobs would undoubtedly get work again, although likely at a substantially lower rate of pay than they were accustomed to getting by working for the bloated bank that went out of business.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 12:44:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do you not think its a huge insult to the taxpayer and unemployed and some tax payers are unemployed believe it or not, to give bonuses to people at a time when one they are not merited, two we cannot afford them and three they are not justified because so many are unemployed, we are in a recession not a party time giving financial gifts to people this needs to STOP
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 1:10:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

I wasn't talking about bonuses. I was referring to the bailout money. Yes, I know some of it was used for bonuses, but that wasn't my point. My feeling on it is that the banks shouldn't have been given any bailout money and let the cards fall as they may. If that meant a mulch-conglomerate, international firm crumbles into the dust, so be it. There will be a void left behind that others will scramble to fill and all those who lost their jobs would undoubtedly get work again, although likely at a substantially lower rate of pay than they were accustomed to getting by working for the bloated bank that went out of business.



We are right on the same page, with what you say in this post.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 1:38:53 AM   
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We are right on the same page, with what you say in this post.


Well now, that's a scary thought, isn't it? ;)

Dammit. I just noticed a typo in my other post and it's too late to edit it.

mulch=multi

Yikes...that was some typo. :D

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 2:46:23 AM   
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The way we take care of the unemployed in a free society, as opposed to a nanny-state, Orchid, is by promoting an environment of economic growth and recovery.


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The way we promote economic growth and recover in a community based on solidarity, as opposed to a dumb state, TheHeretic, is by taking care of the unemployed.


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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 6:04:21 AM   
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Because she was driving kids.... not packages potentially worth lots of money.





Oh, I think the school bus cargo is infinitely more valuable than any package that might be on a Fed-Ex, truck, Tazzy. I meant the liability risk of being at fault in an accident.

Thompson, I think you understand the business of driving better than your question would indicate. Both may be delivery jobs at the root, but they are different worlds. How often do we see a school bus driver get out and run? How often do we see a Fed-Ex van stopping for the railroad crossing? It's the difference between hauling hazmat, and delivering pizza. Take somebody who isn't already sharp with running bigger vehicles, put them into the stress of learning much more complicated routes, on an a far more intense kind of pace, while double parking and leapfrogging that rig through weird little parking lots...

It's a buyer's market, and insurance is expensive. Current skills are a better bet.


And she also was still driving a bus, even if it is as a part time substitute. Regardless, the theory that she is "out of practice" would not apply.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 6:20:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course looking back on it, and the fact that I currently am without benefits, I realize how lucky I was. I dumped the husband shortly after he lost his job anyway, lol. Not for that reason, but still.

Many companies now don't offer benefits until someone has been employed a year, so it is about equal in that regard. The big difference is that when you are a good temp, you can cherry pick your assignments, and that comes from being the kind of temp you describe.

As I said, I didn't work in production type positions. Around here, that was done mostly by a company called Manpower, and another one that was Labor something or other. When I was exclusively temping, 90% of the time, it was at AT&T. They were truly hysterical in their process. Departments had a budget for temp employees, but they really had no work for them. If they didn't use the budgeted money, the next fiscal year, they couldn't get it, so of course, they brought in temps. More often than not, they would sit you in a cubicle that had a computer, but you really had nothing to do. That was how I learned all the computer systems. The tutorials were usually on the system, and I spent my time playing on the computers. The best was when I was sent to headquarters and the lobby had all the phones that AT&T made, not only on display, but they all worked! Everyone had access to the WATS lines and could call virtually anywhere. Of course, things have changed a great deal since then, but it was still always interesting.


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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 6:23:51 AM   
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jeezuzs, kevvie..give it a rest....


I think he has the hots for anything in a skirt and posts ludicrous and nonsensical posts in the hopes anyone will respond. *grin*


Normally I don't like to jump in and correct someone post, but in this case...




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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 6:29:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Do you not think its a huge insult to the taxpayer and unemployed and some tax payers are unemployed believe it or not, to give bonuses to people at a time when one they are not merited, two we cannot afford them and three they are not justified because so many are unemployed, we are in a recession not a party time giving financial gifts to people this needs to STOP
kevin


I realize I'm probably better banging my head against cement here, but...

While the banks and companies who received bailouts and paid bonuses with them was abhorrent, it has nothing to do with companies who didn't receive bail out money giving bonuses.

First of all, YOU are not a citizen of this country, so what you can or can't afford is irrelevant.

Second of all, YOU are not a judge of what is merited or not. The day that an unemployable mentally deranged foreigner decides who gets bonuses in my country is when I move to Jamaica.

Finallly, equating whether or not bonuses should be paid based on the number of unemployed people is just....well the stupidest thing I ever heard.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 7:11:36 AM   
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A friend said this.   I think it pretty much covers it

A job is where you exchange time/labor/talent for money. Work is where you make the world a better place each day. A career is for those that can do both at the same time. I'm upset that Occupy Wall Street would work at taking the benefit of my job away. They know some of us will still do the work because it makes the worker a better person. But then Occupy Wall Street is against anyone being better than anyone else. So eventually I will have to quit my job to be as miserable as them. Nice plan Occupy Wall Street, if everyone is destitute then there will be a black market in producing goods and services. It seems like I watched a bunch of cold war movies where they were doing that in Russia.

No. it's about corporations driving small businesses out of business, small businesses that have been the backbone of employment in this country, since... always - and replacing living wages with temp jobs and disposable management with appallingly high burnout rates - there is a war here on variable costs, which eat into stock profits - workers are variable costs.

Really, it's a situation in capitalism, always been that way, unions first came into existence due to the abuses of coal mining companies, and it's always been bad enough, without the Federal bank and the government being in on it, distorting the market to keep wages low, and stigmatizing the victims - at some point, a lot of people in this country started to see stock returns as some kind of entitlement, and as long as you have that, it's going to keep going downhill - what ever happened to working for a living? Rich Dad, Poor Dad, etc.

Most people in this country were raised to believe that if they worked hard, they'd get somewhere; when the economy picked up in the Eighties, the crime rate dropped like a rock, the welfare rolls shrank as people who had never worked before went to work - it was as close to full employment as this country has seen since WWII, including people that just a couple of years earlier were being called "superpredators", 12 year old's being tried as adults, shit, something like 10% of high school students had full time jobs, it was starting to become a problem, they were falling asleep in class -  not because they stayed up partying, but because they just came off a night shift.

Wages started going up, and that's when the right wing whine fest started, apparently everybody making out is some kind of national tragedy, 'cause that's all you clamor about, and you won't rest until we get back to the real business of slave trading and witch burning.

You're gonna go too far here, I can smell it.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 8:53:51 AM   
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NEW VERSION:
The way we promote economic growth and recover in a community based on solidarity, as opposed to a dumb state, TheHeretic, is by taking care of the unemployed.




Why don't you check with Kevin on how the "communities based on solidarity" are doing these days, in terms of economic growth and recovery, SMM.

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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 9:02:21 AM   
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Why don't you check with Kevin on how the "communities based on solidarity" are doing these days, in terms of economic growth and recovery, SMM.

Pretty well, thank you, many of the best growing economies are such. And we have not provoked any worldwide crisis (USA, 2).
Your turn: check the amount of suffering your system has provoked.
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RE: Unemployed seek protection against job bias - 10/10/2011 9:05:00 AM   
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