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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Oh right, the the millions made in exports of military hardware are not jobs. On top of that, the cost of paying for armed forces doesnt come out of taxpayers money, does it ??

Who makes that hardware?

Show me the profit margin of the military. (Let's see how long it takes for the light bulb over your head to switch on)

Here I helped you. That's not all of them. When you connect the dots between the MSM and those that profit you'll begin to see just what's possibly going on in the US today and who has a vested interest in keeping war alive.

That last part is free.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1218-03.htm

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But that's not what he said
he said a public sector job, wasn't a REAL job.
Which is blatantly fucked up, whether is consumption or production.,

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In a motor pool I watched a guy who overfilled a vehicle with motor oil spend an entire afternoon wiping it off the dipstick with a rag in order to bring it down to the proper fill level.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

Do you ever fully read the articles you post?

Here, let me help you out yet again. From your link:


The president's opponents aren't exactly laying it all out, either.


Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., tried to force a vote on the bill last week, innocently claiming that the president was entitled to one. McConnell knew full well that the result would be failure for the legislation and an embarrassment for Obama.


House Speaker John Boehner, meanwhile, claimed that Obama has "given up on the country and decided to campaign full-time" instead of seeking common ground with the GOP. But Boehner neglected to mention that Obama's past attempts at compromise with Republicans often yielded scant results, as Obama himself pointed out.


By the way, Obama was employed as a civil rights attorney, and also as a law professor.

Before you keep making an ass out of yourself check your facts.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

That is awesome. I bet he never screwed up that job again. It reminds me of a story my grandfather used to tell about one of his men who stole a jeep. The guy had to spend his next day off digging a hole big enough to bury the jeep and then fill it back in again. He never stole a jeep again, so I guess it worked.

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Yep brains, there is no military budget, nothing is earned by training aforces from oother nations, nothing is earned from selling of surplus hardware.

Your light bulb may be on, but it looks a little dim from here.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It is noticable that no one has yet justified, or even tried to, as to why spending money protecting American assets is fine, but American health isnt.

The right just bleat on about Obamacare, while turning a blind eye to spending billions on armed forces.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But But charities and churches can handle the po people who cant afford insurance
Ronny says so!!!!!!! like his buddy who died, they managed to scrape together 32,000 to pay his medical bills
an incredible amount, except his bill came to 400,000.

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Thats not to say that all public employees are crooked, the point that so many of you refuse to see is that public sector bureaucrats dont have the real world motivation that those in the private sector do.

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Technically yes but it's a consumption job, not production.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yes well you know what you can do with your ignorant assumptions
you are WRONG n every count, so stuff it.
Its all words until you put up...just pointless words, just like RPS insistence that his friend was helped by charity, yes he was, but had he been in any other "civilised"(read socialist) He would have had no $378,000 debt to leave to his mother to take care of

Get bent

PS you dont pay a penny towards Polites healthcare. So dont get your tidy whities in a tangle.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Youve never served, apparently. In the military theyll have you dig a hole then fill it back in, so that youre not standing around. In a motor pool I watched a guy who overfilled a vehicle with motor oil spend an entire afternoon wiping it off the dipstick with a rag in order to bring it down to the proper fill level.

You were, clearly, in a different military than I was.


Its common for artillerymen (for example) to shoot off artillery rounds day and night for a month to destroy millions of dollars in munitions just because budget money would be lost if those shells were still in the inventory at the end of the fiscal year.


OMG...are you saying that they did not do that as practice so that when the time came to shoot at real targets that they would actually have accurate fire?

No, sorry - not really what I would call a "real" job in the real world. The military world is just bizarre... try running a private business like bureaucrats run the government, which that was my point.


So far you have not made a point.
First the military is a special class and for you to try to take that class and try to shoe horn it into either the public sector or the private sector is infantile at best but my money is on your disingenuous habit of half truths and whole lies.
Second you are constantly on the rag about how this or that politician has no military expertise, yet when those whom you tout their military experience fail to live up to your hype you have some convenient scapegoat to blame your boy's failures on.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

You get bent, I'm just fine the way I am. Highly debatable

Did you think blathering out I hate Ron Paul comment was going to get a rise outta me? I figured you out a long time ago so I see you coming long before you start walking. :) It already has, so you lie again

Oh has anyone asked why his family didn't step in? They did Why is it automatically Dr.Paul's fault and responsibility? I never said it was his fault numbnuts
I tell you why..because we need to smear him somehow! Not like we have a lot to go on here! Give us a break lol blah blah blah

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I'm sure you have a vested interest in championing socialists hand outs. I bet it hits close to home for you.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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I'm sure you have a vested interest in championing socialists hand outs. I bet it hits close to home for you.

You use the word socialist in a manner inconsistant with it's meaning, perhaps you could give us the definition you are using so I might better understand your meaning.

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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I'm sure you have a vested interest in championing socialists hand outs. I bet it hits close to home for you.

You use the word socialist in a manner inconsistant with it's meaning, perhaps you could give us the definition you are using so I might better understand your meaning.

Perhaps you could look it up yourself.

I did and if you had bothered to actually read my question you would have known that your use of the word is inconsistant with the dictionary meaning.

The term socialism easily pertains to some of the economic systems we have in place and are trying to implement.

If you mean things like the fire department or the police department or public utilities I would agree...do you think those are "socialist handouts"?

Next try tommygun.
Do you really think that calling me names makes your position stronger?
So far you have not been able to answer a simple question...what is your definition of socialism?
If you feel you are intellectually incapable of coming to grips with that question why don't you quit using words of which you are ignorant of the meaning

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I did and if you had bothered to actually read my question you would have known that your use of the word is inconsistant with the dictionary meaning.