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NINASHARP -> Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 6:33:01 AM)

Why am I so damn sensitive?

I didn't want to high jack any other thread here, yet there have been comments that I have really been sensitive to. Maybe overly sensitive to. They aren't directed at me, but bothered me just the same.  For instance someone posting that they think they might break or hurt a skinny slave type, in another thread. Hello I am a skinny person.. and I have bottomed to the best of them, and I took it just as hard as my former sub sister who was far from thin.  I gave birth for heaven sakes.. Naturally I might add.

I want to lash out and say good gracious your views about thin people, are as skewed as those who view overweight people as lazy. There was even someone who mentioned hugging  thin person was like hugging a broom, which I thought ok, what you don't love to hug a little child. Who doesn't love to hug a little child? Besides Crappy?

When I have a lot of time on my hands, I find myself surfing a variety of message boards because I guess I like the diversity of view points other than mine or my own, and so I go to forums like this site and read and post in areas that I am interested in.

I know when I read something that I completely am offended by, maybe taking it the wrong way, that I have to really be careful not to type out a flaming comment, or refrain from posting at all. I know this is a public forum, but I have to say am a glutton for punishment coming here and reading such comments? I wonder why I am so damn sensitive to things that are not even going on in my own life, and only on a computer screen in front of me? Anyone else feel like this? If so how do you not take offense to things that strike you the wrong way?

Thanks,

NINA




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 6:56:00 AM)

You're just going to have to learn the difference between being passionate about something, and expecting anything to happen because of that passion WITHOUT becoming depressed.  You really only can control yourself.






Azk -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 6:59:18 AM)

Ive never differentiated between online people and offline people. In fact I find people tend to be more able to voice their true opinions on the net.




candystripper -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 7:04:54 AM)

To the OP: i recently went a little buggy over racist remarks (imho) on these boards....i get like that no matter where, when, or whom is speaking/writing.  i have also found S/some P/pl's posts thoughtless, but hey, it's a public forum.  Kinda like running the returns desk at Walmart's; most P/pl are honest and courteous, some are not.  Such is life.
 
candystripper




NikkiAnn -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 7:09:40 AM)

I think if something or someone offends you, you are entitled to voice your opinion. Just do so with constructive critism rather than derogatory remarks such as some posters do in these forums. If you write flaming statements and/or are derogatory then you are falling to their level and you have lost the argument. Don't ever feel its wrong to be sensitive or otherwise have hurt feelings about some of the postings here. Think about the intentions of the poster. Are they trying to help you and just don't know how to word things properly? are they hurting you unintentionaly? or is it an attack on you? It helps to sort this out. I will always welcome constructive criticism and will never take it as a personal attack. How else will you learn to improve yourself. I just ignore obvious attacks and try not to take things like that to heart.  

Nikki Ann




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 7:53:43 AM)

As always LA, Good advice.  My passion sometimes doesn't have that sensitive switch turning on and off.  I agree about self control and will learn to use it more.

Nina




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 7:58:16 AM)

Well thats where I am different I suppose. I sometimes don't alway understand how people get carried away with what they see in their mailbox and take it so literally, they write a rant about it on the open forum. Yet I know that each person feels differently about such things, and to that individual it hurts.  Yet, one person will comment and say delete and move on, and the other says OMG, what an obvious ass.

Thanks for responding,
Nina




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:04:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

To the OP: i recently went a little buggy over racist remarks (imho) on these boards.
 


Ahh well those topics I just have to avoid, because I can not control myself when it comes to racial comments, and know it would have me a bit buggy too. I am a bit naive to think that we should all fit in with a common bond of having our BDSM desires, despite our differences. 

Nina




LaTigresse -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:07:28 AM)

Hello Nina, I just have to say that I completely understand where you are coming from. Some of the rude insensitivity just really pisses me right off. A person can give an opinion and speak their mind without being an insensitive oaf. All of that being said I am quite sure that some of my smartass, intended to be humorous and not directed at any one person, has been read by others in a manner completely different than I meant it and took offense. I always feel bad when I know this has happened. I think its easy for all of us to forget, at times, that behind each name is a real human being with real feelings.....even if SOME of them act completely the opposite....
For me, if I find myself getting too grumpy about it I just have to walk away and let it go.




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:08:30 AM)

Nikki Ann,

Thank you for your well thought out advice. Being a little cordial to others, even when we disagree on certain things is always better then stooping down to the drama of a flaming.

Nina 




Dustyn -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:14:33 AM)

Threads of commonality frequently end up hanging the people that use them to try and unite the masses.  As I put it to a friend of mine that isn't into bdsm but enjoys hearing and reading about it, "My kink ain't your kink, but I'll agree we're both kinky."

About the only time people tend to group together, in terms of things like a community like ours, is when an outsider lambastes the entire concept negatively.  At least that is what I have seen after a few years bouncing around in various bdsm forums.




slaverosebeauty -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:14:53 AM)

Ninasharp~
I don't think you are being overly sensative. I gave birth to a 'big' baby naturally and I have read the forums where it seems that those of us who are on the thinner side are getting dissed and put down. You have your opinions and others have theres, it seems that those who have differeign views and they try to play devil's advocate in the forums end up getting flamed and put down. I try to avoid contraversail topics of that reason, I get called 'overly sensative' at times as well.

{{hugs}}

You are not alone.




juliaoceania -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:35:17 AM)

In one of my anthro classes about ethnicity I about came unglued by this kid who was constantly attacking discrimination laws, talking about "reverse racism", and basically at times sounded like he was a member of the KKK. I was very sensitive to others who were minorities in the class, and since this was my department I talked to my professor about this kid (one of my fav profs btw). I went on and on about this guy because it really bugged me, and my professor said a couple of things that really opened me up to being truly tolerant (which I am still working on the tolerance thing).

One, people with intolerance issues often have some inner pain they are working on. They are ignorant and afraid.

Two, being an anthropologist means I do not get to judge people for their intolerances, because then I am only contributing to it. Most PEOPLE have some sort of intolerance, just depends on what category of intolerance it is. Some hate rich people, some poor, some fat, some thin, some hate ugly people, some hate others because of their religion... People are often convinced to fight wars based on intolerance and hatred of that which is different.. My job was to try to understand the process of it and document it....Not to get personally involved in it, and only to point out how illogical it is when appropriate. I should try not to get emotional about it because as an anthropologist I was going to be around A LOT of prejudice.

I thought about what he said, and it took me some time to realize how I needed to try to own those words. Tolerance starts with self, just like peace does. It never ceases to amaze me that people want the world to accept their kink, for example, but they can't accept others. They snicker behind other people's backs and so on. It is a part of life I suppose. Remember it isn't personal towards you, it is their issue. Im still working on it myself, and it has been rather hard for me too.




Proprietrix -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 8:37:19 AM)


quote:

There was even someone who mentioned hugging thin person was like hugging a broom, which I thought ok, what you don't love to hug a little child. Who doesn't love to hug a little child?


Being the person who said I feel like hugging a skinny person is like hugging a broom….
I guess I’ll comment here.
You asked, so I answer…
I’m not much into hugging little children, but I’m not opposed to doing so if they need a hug. That doesn’t mean I enjoy it or don’t enjoy it. It depends on the person and the situation. Same with skinny people. I’ll hug them, but whether or not I enjoy the hug, depends on the person and the situation. I’m not a very tactile person, so hugs aren’t real high on my list of "things to do with people". For me, it’s difficult to feel warmth and a flow of energy when I’m embracing someone, but my arms feel wrapped around each other.

I prefer plump people. That doesn’t mean that I hate thin people. I also prefer brunettes. But that doesn’t mean I hate blondes. I like the color red, but blue shouldn’t be offended, and neither should my corn be upset that I prefer green beans. We all have individual preferences in what we find attractive and what appeals to us. By default, there will be a large population of people who don’t score in the top ten. That doesn’t mean that we find that large population repulsive.

When I read a profile that says "I’m looking for a tall man with blonde hair." I don’t become offended that I’m a short woman with dark hair. In fact, I don’t become offended at all. I really don’t even think about it.

There are some people who post on here (the first one that comes to mind is KnightsofMist, hope he doesn’t mind my mentioning him) whose posts offer me absolutely no warm fuzzies at all, but tons of strength and learning. This man has a way of phrasing things, that I could be offended, but the thought of being offended really doesn’t occur to me, as I’m usually greatly preoccupied with going "Damn, that’s a good point." or "Now there’s a perspective I never thought of." or "Wow. That gives me something to think about for the next 3 days!" I have no doubt that if he made a post stating all the reasons he didn’t like short women, I could easily read the post and learn something. Being a short woman myself, I’m sure I could read through the paragraphs and feel offended, but it probably wouldn’t happen because I’m wired in a way that I love to explore new perspectives, learn about people and how they think, and expand my horizons through every word I read. It doesn’t take much effort for me to not take things personally.

I find it mildly piques my interest when I see a skinny person speak up when thinness is devalued. It kind of makes me want to say "Aha. Now you know how fat people feel almost every moment of every day when their weight is devalued routinely on television, magazines, playgrounds, nightclubs, and by society in general." 30 million fat jokes are ok, but 1 thin joke sends the skinny lassies running away in tears or vehemently defending themselves. It sucks to be in the person’s shoes who is being devalued based on physical attributes, but most people don’t notice any sort of "problem" with it until they are the one in those shoes.

I’m not getting down on you Nina. In fact, I like you and your perspective on most things. But I must ask, did you feel this sensitive, put off, or offended when the fat people, in that same thread, were being called lazy and worthless? Did you speak up in their defense? Were you inspired with that same urge to type out a flaming comment? Or are you only sensitive to words that could apply to you personally?

If you are only sensitive to comments that you can personally apply to yourself and your own life, maybe you’re not quite looking outside the boundaries of yourself into those infinite boundaries of humanity. When we become less focused on ourselves, we tend to be better able to see the bigger injustices in the world around us. In turn, we begin to take petty insults less personally, because we are looking at a much larger picture than the one we fill.

I could sit around and feel offended about how I personally feel oppressed as a woman. But when I look at the bigger picture, I realize that a lot of women are oppressed. And in fact, so are a lot of men, and elderly, and races, and religions. My scope changes from defending myself as a woman, to speaking out against oppression in general. Defending myself as a "woman" becomes a self-based bandaid that distracts me from the larger cause of defending people as "equals".

I’m less sensitive to posts that I could perceive as personally insulting, because I’m looking at the larger meaning in what someone is saying. If you look back at my post in which I made the broom comment, you’ll see it wasn’t an inflammatory attack toward thin people. The basis of my post was about acceptance of others, acceptance of oneself, relationships void of hatred, and taking care of one’s health. It’s a shame that all of those messages were lost because someone focused on a single metaphor used to describe what I personally find attractive.

It all comes back to… the less we focus on ourselves, the less we take others people’s words personally.




TNstepsout -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 10:26:52 AM)

Well I did notice that in defending fat people, some did it by criticizing thin people. Which is wrong but I can understand it. Overweight people get SO much crap that sometimes they just want to lash out. The bottom line is that people should just be kind to one another no matter what.

So I don't think you were being overly sensitive. Some of the remarks were hurtful and rude.  




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 10:38:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Hello Nina, I just have to say that I completely understand where you are coming from. Some of the rude insensitivity just really pisses me right off. A person can give an opinion and speak their mind without being an insensitive oaf. All of that being said I am quite sure that some of my smartass, intended to be humorous and not directed at any one person, has been read by others in a manner completely different than I meant it and took offense. I always feel bad when I know this has happened. I think its easy for all of us to forget, at times, that behind each name is a real human being with real feelings.....even if SOME of them act completely the opposite....
For me, if I find myself getting too grumpy about it I just have to walk away and let it go.



Thanks LaTigresse, I really enjoy reading your posts, and never have found you a bit offensive, and often find you quite humorous and charming.  I know I shouldn't take things so personally, and be a little logical about the stuff that is written, I do think that it is hard to read someone in their words when you don't see their facial expressions to know how it was meant. I see what you mean, walking away is easier.

Nina 

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Ninasharp~
I don't think you are being overly sensative. I gave birth to a 'big' baby naturally and I have read the forums where it seems that those of us who are on the thinner side are getting dissed and put down. You have your opinions and others have theres, it seems that those who have differeign views and they try to play devil's advocate in the forums end up getting flamed and put down. I try to avoid contraversail topics of that reason, I get called 'overly sensative' at times as well.

{{hugs}}

You are not alone.


You truely are slave rose of beauty, and your name does fit you very well.

Thank you for the support and advice. You are right, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It might be a good thing, because if we all thought alike, well what good would these formats be.  It is hard to sit back and watch the flames and not want chime in but fear you will add fuel the fire, but self control as mentioned, is a good way of  regrouping and seeing things positive. I understand that now.

Thanks again.

Nina




jezabelKH -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 10:46:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

To the OP: i recently went a little buggy over racist remarks (imho) on these boards....i get like that no matter where, when, or whom is speaking/writing.  i have also found S/some P/pl's posts thoughtless, but hey, it's a public forum.  Kinda like running the returns desk at Walmart's; most P/pl are honest and courteous, some are not.  Such is life.
 
candystripper


candystripper,
 
i would have to agree with you on this one. because this is a public forum you are open to public opinon and sometimes said opinions can be hurtfull, make you rage, bring up hard limits such as race, sexual preference or even the type of lifestyle that you or your household practices.....but if you post here, it is public, you have to take the good with the bad......but hopefully the good outweigh the bad.
 
jezabelKH




NINASHARP -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 10:50:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

Well I did notice that in defending fat people, some did it by criticizing thin people. Which is wrong but I can understand it. Overweight people get SO much crap that sometimes they just want to lash out. The bottom line is that people should just be kind to one another no matter what.

So I don't think you were being overly sensitive. Some of the remarks were hurtful and rude.  


I don't like to use the word "fat." I don't know why, maybe it's like Proprietrix said, maybe it is an issue I have with myself. I am comfortable being underweight, but having to raise a child who was considered highly overweight genetically, and watching him struggle as an adolescent, and with all the bullying that he got, and all he really just tried so hard to fit in with the cool "thin" kids. It just really bothers me that someone could be labled as anything with such negativity behind it.

I agree the remarks were rude, but yes I also thought it even harder to read "my master hates fat ppl" posts. I'm just too sensitive for these kind of things.




LaTigresse -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 10:57:50 AM)

Nina, perhaps your sensitivity helps balance those of us that have a serious deficit. ( yes, I have often been accused of such)




fastlane -> RE: Is there any sense in being so sensitive? (5/24/2006 11:12:01 AM)

You can't change what you are, atleast as far as your inner feelings. I think we are all sensitive, some just hide it well.
I spend more time defending my self here then anyone else that I know. Why? because I'm sensitive and a lot of things said are hurtful, so I turn it around and make a joke of it...but it still hurts.
Kevin




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