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DomKen -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:00:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: samboct "No, we wouldnt be looking at a global depression. Companies would have failed, companies would have been split into pieces and companies would have survived intact. Paulson and Bernanke scared the shit out of you so they could have their slush fund to play with. " That's akin to saying that a bank run wouldn't have much of an effect, since the same results of some failed companies would be seen. Yet the history of bank runs is that they precipitate either recessions or depressions because when credit freezes businesses and economies collapse. While the fundamentals of an economy may be reasonably sound- panic can destroy a great deal of paper wealth in a hurry- and we certainly were looking at that, since major reinsurers such as AIG were in deep trouble. Seems to me that denial of the terrible straits we were in is one of the ways that the neocons have spun things so that GWB doesn't come out looking all that bad. FDR was smarter than Obama-he blamed Coolidge and Hoover for years- and rightfully so. Bush's expansion of the debt wasn't done overnight- and like the mechanic's sign in the shop reads- "Don't expect me to fix it in the same time you took to wreck it." Perhaps Obama's biggest flaw is not telling everybody what kind of rotten shape we're in- courtesy of GWB and company. Sam "bank runs" wouldnt have happened. Youre in the wrong century. you're insane. Boa and aIG would have failed without the TARP bailouts. Their assets came no where near meeting their obligations so all of BoA's depositors would have gone to the FDIC which did not have anywhere near enough liquidity to handle those payouts. No bank was big enough to take over BoA so it would have either closed down completely or been sold off in pieces over the course of many months. A lot of people had unsecured investments and deposits in those two institutions. Simply wiping away all that money would have had a huge knock on effect through out the economy which would have resulted in, at minimum, a couple of years of 5%+ deflation. With other banks failing due to AIG failing and news of the FDIC's woes people would naturally want their money out of the surviving banks. Which means bank runs. Youre clueless. BofA wouldnt have needed a penny of temporary TARP money if they hadnt been forced to buy ML, and they repaid it as soon as they were allowed to. Actually BoA was posed to lose billions through its Countrywide Financial mortgages. That would have taken down Red Oak and since the acquisition deal was structured specifically to shield the main BoA corp from the known hazards of the acquisition the creditors would have had a pretty good shot at piercing the corporate veil. BoA would have been out many further billions trying to defend themselves from the creditors of Countrywide and Red Oak (which would have included a desperate AIG). Even without ML BoA was in deep trouble and if AIG went down it was certainly taking BoA with it since BoA through Countrywide was the originator of an enormous number of the subprime mortgages fraudulently packaged in AAA rated bonds.

mnottertail -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:15:28 PM)
and this does not even cover how many of them motherfuckers were sitting on tons of AIG securities as pledge and reserve, which would have started dominoes falling, in and of itself by AIG dropping off the face of the earth...wiping them out on the way.......

rulemylife -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:25:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic good god..can you be any more divisive... More divisive than the political party that is prepared to rip my country apart, to hold on to their power? I doubt it. I'm sure you'll be cheerleading for them the whole way, too. You mean the Republican Party, which has blocked or tried to block any and all Democratic legislation? Even for policies the GOP had proposed in the past. But you keep up your little temper tantrums Richie about how the Democrats are haters. They are always good for a laugh.

Sanity -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:40:51 PM)
Funny you should write that. From the Race-Baiter-In-Chief today: Republicans Don't Want A Place Where People "No Matter What They Look Like" Can Succeed quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic More divisive than the political party that is prepared to rip my country apart, to hold on to their power? I doubt it. I'm sure you'll be cheerleading for them the whole way, too.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:51:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Actually BoA was posed to lose billions through its Countrywide Financial mortgages. Ridiculous. BofA bought Countrywide for a song AFTER its financial difficulties were known. The subsequent losses nowhere near threatened BofAs survival.

Politesub53 -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 3:59:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity From the Race-Baiter-In-Chief today: You should look closer to home.

DomKen -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 4:05:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Actually BoA was posed to lose billions through its Countrywide Financial mortgages. Ridiculous. BofA bought Countrywide for a song AFTER its financial difficulties were known. Which didn't absolve them of those liabilities. Or of all the fraud lawsuits AIG would have had to pursue if there had been no TARP and ML had been allowed to go under.

rulemylife -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 4:32:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity At least one of those is deserved - havent we seen enough hate directed at, say... Mormons recently ken? References to "The Mormon Cult" are thick on these pages right now, but how many do you think will come up if Romney is nominated, just for one example. But for the most part thats all strawman bs... because no, you cant find examples of each of those claims. If its so trivially easy then do it! I dare you. But, on the other hand - do you not know how trivially easy it would be to post recent examples of leftists on this forum really making similar claims about Conservatives, or even far worse claims? Recently making thinly veiled death threats, etc, in these forums? You challenged him, but you didn't back your own claims. Death threats? How's that new tin foil hat fit?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 4:44:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity At least one of those is deserved - havent we seen enough hate directed at, say... Mormons recently ken? References to "The Mormon Cult" are thick on these pages right now, but how many do you think will come up if Romney is nominated, just for one example. But for the most part thats all strawman bs... because no, you cant find examples of each of those claims. If its so trivially easy then do it! I dare you. But, on the other hand - do you not know how trivially easy it would be to post recent examples of leftists on this forum really making similar claims about Conservatives, or even far worse claims? Recently making thinly veiled death threats, etc, in these forums? You challenged him, but you didn't back your own claims. Death threats? How's that new tin foil hat fit? Yes, death threats, and not thinly veiled.

Sanity -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 5:10:58 PM)
Not at all. quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Yes, death threats, and not thinly veiled.

slvemike4u -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 5:26:29 PM)
Is there an echo here ?

Lucylastic -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 5:28:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity At least one of those is deserved - havent we seen enough hate directed at, say... Mormons recently ken? References to "The Mormon Cult" are thick on these pages right now, but how many do you think will come up if Romney is nominated, just for one example. But for the most part thats all strawman bs... because no, you cant find examples of each of those claims. If its so trivially easy then do it! I dare you. But, on the other hand - do you not know how trivially easy it would be to post recent examples of leftists on this forum really making similar claims about Conservatives, or even far worse claims? Recently making thinly veiled death threats, etc, in these forums? You challenged him, but you didn't back your own claims. Death threats? How's that new tin foil hat fit? Yes, death threats, and not thinly veiled. yet no one cares to remember what the cuckys have promised, threatened and hoped for or the threats of violence from others LMFAO As an aside He was well out of line when he used what he did, but as you blithley ignore the missing alternates, in at least TWO who have called for death to libs and you didnt give a flying shit then, you just ignored them. and so it was......

tazzygirl -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 5:37:27 PM)
Dammit Lucy... you went and done it now

Owner59 -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 5:52:01 PM)
Just look at the respective rallies and how they differ. Which were hate filled and which have hippies singing? I`m not sure what the troll OP is getting at. What form does this "hate" he`s dribling about take? It`s not just democrats.....everybody is angry with the grand oil party. Cept the cons themselves,but that doesn`t count.They have little choice in the matter. Where as democrats fall in love,cons fall in line,.....errr I mean, obey. If the silly premise that folks start hate`n cuz they don`t have someone to vote FOR follows,that would explain the hate spewing from every con-media hole....err I mean outlet around,plus the few cons here. Cuz god knows they DON`T have anyone to vote FOR.......lol

thompsonx -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 6:21:26 PM)
quote: They have a responsbility to their shareholders to maximize profits, period. Of course their responsibility to their depositors must come second to profits right. Now when one considers that there would be no profit if there were no depositors one needs to ask why do the share holders get preference over those who actually make those profits possible?

TheHeretic -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 6:46:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail you are not in on the conversation. I don't see a conversation, Ron. Just attempted distractions and derailments, some thrashings of denial, and plentiful examples of just how accurate I was with the thread title.

Lucylastic -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 6:49:17 PM)
confirmation bias, woohooooooo <snip>People will speak as they will, and we in turn are free to judge them by how they do so. </snip>

Owner59 -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 6:52:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail you are not in on the conversation. I don't see a conversation, Ron. Just attempted distractions and derailments, some thrashings of denial, and plentiful examples of just how accurate I was with the thread title. More like nothing to say.....another pathetic troll thread you can`t defend.

TheHeretic -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 6:59:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity From the Race-Baiter-In-Chief today: You should look closer to home. Closer to home, you say? So when are you Brits going to get yourselves some royalty of color? Have those princes of yours ever tried a little brown sugar? How about a black Prime Minister, or an Indian maybe? What is the highest office in Her Majesties Government that has ever been occupied by a non-white? STFU

TheHeretic -> RE: Why the Democrats are so full of hate (10/13/2011 7:04:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 More like nothing to say.....another pathetic troll thread you can`t defend. It's called a "job," Owner59. Surely you've had one, at some point? Probably during a Republican administration?

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