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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:38:43 AM   
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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:38:48 AM   
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Just got an email saying the president has received twice as many donations as he did at this point in time last election.

Not only more donors,but a shit load more money than the grand oil party members too.


Donors also tend to be voteres.

He may lose some from the far left but will gain in the middle.


You are certifiable. Number one, he wasnt the only Dem running at the time. Two, every single fucking poll in the country shows he's lost much of his support from the middle.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:41:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yet they all have him leading, and leading congress with their 11% approval, oh, yeah, except like the WSJ. EVEN RASSMUSSEN. (I imagine so they dont look as fucking stupid as ususal)

But never fear, the teabaggers are not counting on individuals for their warchest, (but individuals vote) they have their corporate appeasement superPACs starting to crank up.

So TV is gonna be pretty good.



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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:53:30 AM   
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I'm registered to vote in Chicago


You've already voted for Obama... Five times

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:55:06 AM   
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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 9:59:09 AM   
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The Obama 2012 re-election campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) announced Thursday that their fundraising haul was $70 million for the third quarter, down from the second quarter, but far ahead of the GOP field.

According to Fox News tallies - the campaign had 18 fundraisers this quarter, compared to about 31 for the second one.

Since his re-election announcement on April 4, he's had 55 total fundraisers.

The downturn in numbers was largely due to the debt fight, which consumed much of President Obama's schedule in July. Due to optics and non-stop meetings with Congressional leaders about raising the nation's debt ceiling, Obama mostly stayed in Washington during that time.

He picked up his fundraising schedule again starting with his 50th birthday bash in Chicago in August.

Since that time he's been criss-crossing the country, squeezing in fundraisers in places like Florida, Texas and Missouri.

Obama has held 18 fundraisers since the jobs bill was announced, and since his re-election was announced, averaged about a fundraiser every three and a half days.

More than 766,000 total donations came from 606,027 people -- 98 percent of the donations $250 or less, at an average amount of $56, according to the campaign.




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Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/10/13/crunching-numbers-obamas-third-quarter-2012-campaign-fundraising#ixzz1agLTPpWH

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 10:06:15 AM   
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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 10:06:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		In times like these and unemployment what it is, whos gonna throw away $56 and then not vote with it?

Given the propensity for the republican continuous corporate felch, the OWS movement, the 11% approval rating of congress (jesus, has it ever been lower excepting the civil war?) and the doofus and rufus show out there for republican candidates......

I don't see a landslide unless corporate marketing advertizements (read reublican spots) are going to hypmotize the generally well informed center and left into drooling hard right imbecility.

Oh, don't get me wrong, they have 4 or 5 of those already handled right here, but I think this is go a different ROUTE.



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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 10:11:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Just got an email saying the president has received twice as many donations as he did at this point in time last election.

Not only more donors,but a shit load more money than the grand oil party members too.


Donors also tend to be voteres.

He may lose some from the far left but will gain in the middle.


You are certifiable. Number one, he wasnt the only Dem running at the time. Two, every single fucking poll in the country shows he's lost much of his support from the middle.


And every single fucking poll in the country shows him with higher approval ratings than Bush had when he won a second term.

I've given you the numbers before but either you are this dense or you are willingly ignoring them to push your agenda.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 11:37:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I imagine I will be voting for Obama again, although I suppose it is really too early to tell.  I just can't visualize myself voting for any of the current GOP field.  Where is the next Mark Hatfield?
In any case, I am as disappointed as anyone with Obama's performance.  I have the hope that maybe he will come into his own in a second term, when reelection is not his primary concern.


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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 11:41:18 AM   
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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 11:41:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Just got an email saying the president has received twice as many donations as he did at this point in time last election.

Not only more donors,but a shit load more money than the grand oil party members too.


Donors also tend to be voteres.

He may lose some from the far left but will gain in the middle.


You are certifiable. Number one, he wasnt the only Dem running at the time. Two, every single fucking poll in the country shows he's lost much of his support from the middle.


And every single fucking poll in the country shows him with higher approval ratings than Bush had when he won a second term.

I've given you the numbers before but either you are this dense or you are willingly ignoring them to push your agenda.



Obamas approval rating is 16% worse than GWBs at this point in his Presidency and headed down more every month.
Obamas approval rating now is 13% worse than GWBs was for the 2004 election.

You are lying to push your agenda.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 11:55:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, Obama is about as popular as Ronald Reagan at this time in their presidencies.

Reagan got slaughtered in his second term bid, then.....

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 12:13:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is hard to find a candidate that agrees with you on everything…I have never found one and have voted in most every election in my life.

So….I have a choice… vote for the lesser of two evils or whomever is closest to my views… or throw my vote away on a third party. I vote not only for the best candidate but also the party across state elections that will aid him or her in congress.

Yes I get frustrated just as you and sometimes wonder why I even bother to vote…but…I would feel even worse if, by voting a useless third party only to make a point, I helped allow fanaticism to take over my government…at least without a fight.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:17:25 PM   
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If everyone I saw post or heard say they were throwing their vote away on a third party, actually voted third party, I believe you would find a third party that would start putting pressure on the other two. The only way your vote really counts now, is if it is taken seriously by the politicians. They rely on marketing, and not looking as bad as the next guy, because they know many voters in the middle are voting for the lesser of two evils.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:21:42 PM   
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What was your prediction for the last Presidential tilt ?


I missed only two states in the electoral college!

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:26:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was hours ago,but I think that question was asked of willbur.... Not that you aren't free to answer it...lol,just trying to keep the question in context.Willbur had given his prediction of a near landslide for a Romney/Rubio ticket

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:27:19 PM   
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If everyone I saw post or heard say they were throwing their vote away on a third party, actually voted third party, I believe you would find a third party that would start putting pressure on the other two. The only way your vote really counts now, is if it is taken seriously by the politicians. They rely on marketing, and not looking as bad as the next guy, because they know many voters in the middle are voting for the lesser of two evils.


Orion! (howdy!)

I don't see as many saying they are going to throw it away on a third party as are going to just throw it in the discard pile. But even those folks don't have the same feeling about congress. They are fuckin pissed!!!!

So in a phone it in election, you got a devil you know and a dooflus.

The devil you know is generally the nod as we look thru the history of it.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:30:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the New York Times electoral college map, I left all their predicted states alone and made my own predictions on the "leaning" and "too close to call" states. Since the NYT was so accurate, it was easy for me.

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RE: Not voting for Obama. - 10/13/2011 2:33:03 PM   
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Willbur had given his prediction of a near landslide for a Romney/Rubio ticket


I think Romney would give Obama a real run for his money in the general election, but "crown prince" of the Tea Party movement Marco Rubio on the ticket might scare off centrists.

And he couldn't even stay current on mortgage payments!!!







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